ofcourse in reality you are quite right, I was speaking from a moral point meaning that previous comments in relation to screen size should mean that anything above the 3.5 would stop some people buying. After all I believe the s2 has been described as a.tablet, or a suitcase is required to carry.

However as you say certain people would buy certain phones if the screen was the size of a Piccadilly bill board and still say its just right.

You're amazing. Your ability to ignore logical reasoning is enviable.

Good for the manufacturer in that the thinner they are the more often they break.

It is claimed the iPad 2 breaks 3.5 times as often as iPad 1. Logically this applies even more so to pocketed smartphones.

Its not quite a difference. Its absolutely negligible in terms of size. I would say the 4S for instance is too heavy. Its like a bloody brick to hold! Apple users dont complain about that though!

I just dont get why some people think the S2 and the Nexus are too big...

Anyway, Apple will use a bigger screen as to be honest, its what most people want. the usual will happen with apple users. The will all go and buy it and rave about how superb it is days later. Card reader springs to mind on a macbook for a start.

Wow! One review lol

I use it daily and its pretty bad! No settings for a start piss me off.

It is quite a difference when they're so small to begin with. The S2 is nearly 10% longer and more than 10% wider than the iPhone. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but it's more than the 2mm you claimed on the previous page.

The S2 weighs 130g. The iPhone 4S weighs 140g. That's 7.7% heavier. I would say still consider this quite a difference, but I struggle to see how one can feel fine and the other, only 10g heavier, can feel like a brick.

I think the size of the present smart phones is big enough. I am still amazed at the display on my iphone 3GS and blown away by the display on the 4s that I have seen. If the new iphone has a 4.6" screen will they still be able to fit in most peoples pockets?

I hope your not including yourself on that description. There are some reasonable iPhone users on here .... not you I'm afraid

Do you honestly think that any manufacturer would deliberately make a device intending for it to get broken ? The adverse publicity of a device prone to breakage compared to a few extra unit sales would be a ridiculous tradeoff.

I'm not quite sure where you get that from. Apple are the masters at secrecy and the last thing they do is try to sell the next product prematurely. What you actually mean is that the rumour mill is good at trying to sell the next product before it is out. It's the likes of Samsung that actually have a string of products publicly talked about.

Another thing to consider is the amounts of docks etc that current users have bought.A new bigger iphone could render these docks useless if you upgrade to a bigger phone and some of them aint cheap.
Maybe apple will bring out 2 iphones of different size its what other manufacturers do.I ditched my iphone 4 after the 4S came out as i wanted a bigger screen and Android was the only choice for me.

Explain why. You're talking baloney and you know it.

I love my iPhone 4 I would probably not buy it if it was significatly bigger than it is though. My friend has an S2 and it is just to big for a phone for me personaly. I wouldnt mind if they made it a bit smaller even!

What? Like the docks from the 3g dont work with the 4?

Pretty much the same difference really.....

They were similar size so still fitted, if apple increase the size of the phone they may not fit existing docks.

Really?

And what about sealing a device with masses of glue, not using any screws whatsoever so that if you try to change a battery or screen yourself the thing is likely to break?

Obviously this is done to make production quick and cheap.
The side affect is a bonus.

That was an example of a good review.

Pretty much every major tech website that reviewed the iPhone 4S said the camera was excellent.

If it's pretty bad for you then maybe it's a faulty camera or down to user error as everyone else seems to be able to take excellent pictures with it.

what none at all? Amazed you can't set ISO on a camera, even one on a phone.
Exposure compensation? white balance? Scene modes at least?

this is a less than impressed review of the camera
http://www.popphoto.com/gear/2011/11...test-iphone-4s

they don't think it's anything special. Noticeable noise at ISO 80 is pretty atrocious.

User error! Typical apple user response

Point and shoot with the iphone since it has absolutely zero user settings. It takes ok pictures. Not even close to excellent. My S2 was far better in both pics and videos.

Also, the phone has already been replaced due to a dodgy battery, so its not that either.

Nope! Nothing!

Oh sorry, it does: Grid on/off and HDR on/off.

Nothing else at all. Its shocking! But then again, apple dont think you need it

See I've never owned an iphone. And I'm not going to get into X is better than Y but I KNOW that it would be unsuitable for my needs; time and time again something like this comes up that never gets mentioned in reviews but would do my head in. I totally get why having something like white balance might be 'confusing' to the average unsavvy owner. So stick it on auto but let those of us that know how to use it change it.

Correct. I'm waiting till the S3 launches and then shifting this 4S onto someone else.

Its getting to the point where i actually cant stand it!

that's apple all over though isn't you get what we give you and be happy with it. problem is most people are

Because a lot of people don't like complicated . They just want a product that works out of the box . Apple fills that market .

I am intrigued to see what they do to the samsung g3 as I may be tempted to switch after nearly 4 years as I want something different . Apple needs a new design and bigger screen if I am to stick with them.

But as has been covered already, a big chunk of that 0.8 inch of extra screen comes from it being 16:9 rather than the iPhone's 3:2. So if the iPhone was the same width as the S2, it would still only be have a 3.8 inch screen.

Therefore, until Apple goes widescreen (which they probably won't), or unless they can eliminate most of the bezel (which may not be technically possible right now), the iPhone will never have as big of a screen as the top end Android phones.