Hi i got to move 2 speakers that are attached to large tv moniter detach then from the moniter to across the room. I am going to use a lot of cable (speaker cable 2 core) will it have a effect the sound. The TV moniter will be on one wall and the speakers will be opposite the TV i will have go round the walls with speaker cables which i will use alot of cable. Reason i am moving is staff complaining about sound from the speakers but we need them in reception for info for customers thanks in advance.
Moving TV speakers across a big room.
How long is long?
If you are talking hundreds of metres then it will have an effect on sound quality. As will using really thin cable. If you are talking 30 feet or so and using something of the gauge of 13A mains cable or thicker then it shouldn't be much of a problem. Even something like 6A mains would probably do.
It also depends on what you are using the speakers for. For general background music or the odd announcement then you can get away with a lower quality. If you are using them for critical listening to music then that is another matter.
Just make sure that when tacking them round the skirting or whatever that you don't accidentally stick a nail through the wire. That is more likely to affect the sound than the amount of wire you use
Oh and don't run the cables under the carpet. It won't protect them from damage caused by people walking over them. Just hides it and makes it more difficult to repair the damage.
If you are talking hundreds of metres then it will have an effect on sound quality. As will using really thin cable. If you are talking 30 feet or so and using something of the gauge of 13A mains cable or thicker then it shouldn't be much of a problem. Even something like 6A mains would probably do.
It also depends on what you are using the speakers for. For general background music or the odd announcement then you can get away with a lower quality. If you are using them for critical listening to music then that is another matter.
Just make sure that when tacking them round the skirting or whatever that you don't accidentally stick a nail through the wire. That is more likely to affect the sound than the amount of wire you use
Oh and don't run the cables under the carpet. It won't protect them from damage caused by people walking over them. Just hides it and makes it more difficult to repair the damage.
For your use it will be absolutely fine, using long wires lowers the damping effect of the amplifier, but this is a vastly exaggerated 'problem'.
As already suggested, using thicker wire will help as well - and I doubt you'll be able to tell the slightest difference in the sound quality.
As already suggested, using thicker wire will help as well - and I doubt you'll be able to tell the slightest difference in the sound quality.
We could be talking in excess of 20mts+ per speaker using normal speaker cable would i have to use a amplifier or what about wireless speakers. We have to move the speakers from the TV because the recpt staff are complaining about the music from the speakers. So the speakers will be opposite the tv for customers coming in the reception.
If you use decent cable then 20m is not a problem. I have run PA speakers on 50+ metres of cable before now using little more than 13A twin core mains cable. Had little real effect on sound.
Wireless speakers, in the sense of zero wires don't really exist. They still need a power supply to run the onboard amplifiers. So if there is no mains anywhere near where you want to site the speakers then you are hardly any better off.
Don't worry so much about the sound quality. The quality of the speakers themselves and the acoustics of the room are probably going to have a much more noticeable effect than a bit of wire. Unless you do something really silly and try to run them on an offcut of old telephone cable you happen to have lying around. Use something that is at least as thick as 6A mains and preferably a bit thicker and you will not have any problems.
The other bit of advice I would give is to replace the entire run from amplifier to speaker. It is not really a good idea to splice the new wire onto the end of the existing wires. If there is absolutely no alternative then use a screw connector block rather than (as I have seen) just twist the bare ends together and wrap a bit of sellotape round them!
Oh and make sure you get the +ve and -ve the right way round on both speakers. Getting one wrong will have an effect on the sound.
Wireless speakers, in the sense of zero wires don't really exist. They still need a power supply to run the onboard amplifiers. So if there is no mains anywhere near where you want to site the speakers then you are hardly any better off.
Don't worry so much about the sound quality. The quality of the speakers themselves and the acoustics of the room are probably going to have a much more noticeable effect than a bit of wire. Unless you do something really silly and try to run them on an offcut of old telephone cable you happen to have lying around. Use something that is at least as thick as 6A mains and preferably a bit thicker and you will not have any problems.
The other bit of advice I would give is to replace the entire run from amplifier to speaker. It is not really a good idea to splice the new wire onto the end of the existing wires. If there is absolutely no alternative then use a screw connector block rather than (as I have seen) just twist the bare ends together and wrap a bit of sellotape round them!
Oh and make sure you get the +ve and -ve the right way round on both speakers. Getting one wrong will have an effect on the sound.
So we need 2core 1.5mm twin flat grey cable there no amplifier just a moniter and the data and the music comes from a PC under the moniter.and the speakers were attached to the moniter which arn,t that big. thanks.
Whats a 2 core wire?
You need something like lampcord, 16 gauge... don't pay for stupidly fancy wiring, it does nothing, get a roll of 16 guage and be done with it.
You need something like lampcord, 16 gauge... don't pay for stupidly fancy wiring, it does nothing, get a roll of 16 guage and be done with it.
Originally Posted by pocatello:
“Whats a 2 core wire?
You need something like lampcord, 16 gauge... don't pay for stupidly fancy wiring, it does nothing, get a roll of 16 guage and be done with it.”
“Whats a 2 core wire?
You need something like lampcord, 16 gauge... don't pay for stupidly fancy wiring, it does nothing, get a roll of 16 guage and be done with it.”
2 core wire is a cable containing two individually insulated conductors within a common sheath.
And I doubt very many UK residents would know what a US 16 gauge cable looked like if they tripped over it
Originally Posted by chrisjr:
“2 core wire is a cable containing two individually insulated conductors within a common sheath.
And I doubt very many UK residents would know what a US 16 gauge cable looked like if they tripped over it”
“2 core wire is a cable containing two individually insulated conductors within a common sheath.
And I doubt very many UK residents would know what a US 16 gauge cable looked like if they tripped over it
”
Oh ok, it just seemed like stating the obvious in a way that seemed a bit weird. Thickness is the main spec one needs to be concerned about after all.
Originally Posted by pocatello:
“Oh ok, it just seemed like stating the obvious in a way that seemed a bit weird. Thickness is the main spec one needs to be concerned about after all.”
“Oh ok, it just seemed like stating the obvious in a way that seemed a bit weird. Thickness is the main spec one needs to be concerned about after all.”
What's thickness
.that sounds just as wierd to me. I thought thickness was a measure of intelligence
Given the same conductor material - copper in this instance you need the cross sectional area consistant with the power transfer required and how long the cables are. 1.5 square mm copper will be more than adequate for the OP (ignoring the redundant earth conductor) or indeed pretty well any cable short of single strand bell wire.
In this case the power involved is pretty small, likely much less than 10W RMS so pretty well any cable with a mains current capacity of around 5A will do the job.
2.5mm squared may be required for very long or high power transfers (way in excess of this situation).
If you have to run speaker cables under carpets this stuff is handy.
eg
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/SPC06.html
eg
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/SPC06.html
Originally Posted by bright spark:
“Hi i got to move 2 speakers that are attached to large tv moniter detach then from the moniter to across the room. I am going to use a lot of cable (speaker cable 2 core) will it have a effect the sound.”
“Hi i got to move 2 speakers that are attached to large tv moniter detach then from the moniter to across the room. I am going to use a lot of cable (speaker cable 2 core) will it have a effect the sound.”
I mentioned this in another post, would this be an opion for you? Marmitek "wireless speaker cable", it's intended for the rear speakers in a surround application, but as long you've got speaker-level or line-level outputs from the monitor then you can plug it into the transmitter and have the receiver at the opposite end of the room. You can even buy multiple receivers if necessary.
The receiver has a local volume control as it has a built-in amplifier.
