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If the X Factor rumours are true...
CSweeet7
23-03-2012
about Britney being a judge on the US X Factor, how do you think it will affect her career, short and long term?

I would defineitely say that Britney is a very iconic (perhaps nearly legendary but that comes down to personal opinion) performer who has a strong catalogue of hits and has truly had an impact on music and society. What potentially worries me is that starring on X Factor as a judge could cheapen her in a way and make her seem slightly 'trashy'.

Short term, I could see the X Factor job boosting her single sales so she could get a few On The Floor-esque hits, and probably boost her album slaes slightly so that she ended up around Circus sales again.

My only concern could be in the long term her status in the music industry is cheapened as people could perhaps remember her as just another X Factor judge rather than being a perfomer and having many hits and selling millions of albums without being on TV every week. I also think that many people will just put her down even more if she takes the job by just saying she can't sing - which is completely a personal opinion and I can see that she hasn't helped herself by lip-synching quite a lot.

What are your thoughts?
AdzPower
23-03-2012
I think she could do well as long as she doesnt act like Nicole Scherzinger, one thing i disagree with you on is her being able to sing, Britney can sing, it cant be an opinion, someone can either technically sing or they cant, where opinon comes into it is whether a person likes her voice or not, its not the same thing.
ilovezenyatta
23-03-2012
Originally Posted by CSweeet7:
“about Britney being a judge on the US X Factor, how do you think it will affect her career, short and long term?

I would defineitely say that Britney is a very iconic (perhaps nearly legendary but that comes down to personal opinion) performer who has a strong catalogue of hits and has truly had an impact on music and society. What potentially worries me is that starring on X Factor as a judge could cheapen her in a way and make her seem slightly 'trashy'.

Short term, I could see the X Factor job boosting her single sales so she could get a few On The Floor-esque hits, and probably boost her album slaes slightly so that she ended up around Circus sales again.

My only concern could be in the long term her status in the music industry is cheapened as people could perhaps remember her as just another X Factor judge rather than being a perfomer and having many hits and selling millions of albums without being on TV every week. I also think that many people will just put her down even more if she takes the job by just saying she can't sing - which is completely a personal opinion and I can see that she hasn't helped herself by lip-synching quite a lot.

What are your thoughts?”

good points you make i heard that rumor as well but if they can cut a deal with her then yes she'll be a judge if the amount of money she wants agrees to it. look at jennifer lopez, she makes over 20 million dollar for appearing on American Idol.

it'll help boost her sales but i wouldn't say its a cheap move because surely they can use the ratings because if britney was on it, it'll be high!! considering how much of an icon she is in music and pop culture alone. I heard on this source that the conservatorship hearing approved her of joining the show:

http://www.examiner.com/the-x-factor...atorship-judge

her album sales as you said haven't been that great since circus came out. but i thought femme fatale the last album she released did quite well i thought because of 3 of the singles she released (Hold It Against Me, Til The World Ends and I Wanna Go) did very well on the radio but of course criminal flopped badly. i must be living in america because the singles in america did very well.

the single sales were good during the femme fatale era though but the album sales weren't there. but i was impressed by femme fatale i think its her best albums she's done yet.
ilovezenyatta
23-03-2012
i will add it'll help her get a big type of hit with one or two hits of them when she ever releases a new album. j.lo did it very well with on the floor and shes gonna a release a new song for her greatest hits album so it looks j.lo may have similar success maybe if the song is catchable like OTF was.
shackfan
23-03-2012
Originally Posted by ilovezenyatta:
“i will add it'll help her get a big type of hit with one or two hits of them when she ever releases a new album. j.lo did it very well with on the floor and shes gonna a release a new song for her greatest hits album so it looks j.lo may have similar success maybe if the song is catchable like OTF was.”

Translation please
ItsTimmyTime
23-03-2012
I posted this:

"I'm in two minds about the X Factor USA rumours.

On one hand, it would/should be great exposure for Britney and a chance for her to come out of her shell as a confident public celebrity. We would get to experience loads of Britney during a time where she would have no music in the pipeline for a long time. Britney's career has been built on the definition of having "the X Factor" so in that sense she would bring something vital, something which Paula or Nicole didn't have. Plus, despite hating it last year because there was no spark to the show, I have a feeling Simon and the producers will bring it with quality this year. Who knows, she could become the nation's sweetheart again from the show?

On the other hand... I can see it going awfully. Britney could freeze up when it comes to giving criticism and a flood of "that was very cool, I liked it" would come from her mouth about a hundred times per show! Somebody brought up the possibility of her being labeled a has been too, I can see that. The X Factor USA isn't at an A-List International level yet (I think that's why they're throwing Britney's name into the media as often as possible) so it would be deemed a step down or as a "desperate attempt to save her career"! When you think about it, she's replacing Paula Abdul or Nicole Scherzinger...! Then there is the singing ability accusation she will undoubtedly face time and time again, be it from the media or disgruntled audition rejects, which she will unlikely be able to defend herself against. I cannot see Britney going "I dont sing, but I dance..!", she'll likely get upset and go further into her shell. With Christina on The Voice beating X Factor USA too, it would compromise her position as being seen as a more successful popstar than Xtina."


On the Britney Appreciation forum a few weeks ago, but then I decided it was a bad idea, it is too much of a risk, in my opinion, and she's bringing the Christina comparisons back again, but now Christina has the upper hand!
Theshane
23-03-2012
They could have saved 20 million and hired a MacBook. It would have equal singing ability and more right to judge people on ability.
toanythingtaboo
23-03-2012
In theory it would make a good fit: The X Factor is more than just musical talent, it's about having that certain something that sets you apart - and Britney personifies that.

However, I'm not sure if her personality is the right fit. She seems too nice, polite and reserved now. Would she be able to crush the hopes and dreams of people in front of her? Would she be up for "bitching up" for entertainment value? You have to play the game to be successful on the XF.

Plus, we've seen how tabloids turn on the judges...and I really don't think Britney could cope with another media whirlwind. Even if she could, I don't think she deserves to be put in that position again.

I'm skeptical that it'll happen though. Would her team really want Britney to be live on television for a few hours every weekend outwith their control? They don't even seem to like her doing interviews...
jackbell
23-03-2012
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“Translation please”

Britney will have a hit off the back of the show like J Lo did.
iseloid
24-03-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“In theory it would make a good fit: The X Factor is more than just musical talent, it's about having that certain something that sets you apart - and Britney personifies that.

However, I'm not sure if her personality is the right fit. She seems too nice, polite and reserved now. Would she be able to crush the hopes and dreams of people in front of her? Would she be up for "bitching up" for entertainment value? You have to play the game to be successful on the XF.

Plus, we've seen how tabloids turn on the judges...and I really don't think Britney could cope with another media whirlwind. Even if she could, I don't think she deserves to be put in that position again.

I'm skeptical that it'll happen though. Would her team really want Britney to be live on television for a few hours every weekend outwith their control? They don't even seem to like her doing interviews...”

However, the US version isn't as nasty as ours. If you aren't good enough, you don't even get to the judges, it's not like here where it's a joke. The US music biz is serious money. She could bring a nice element to it, it was nice last year. Besides the Rachel episode...
DEADLY_17
24-03-2012
Britney does not need X-Factor the show needs her, Simon Likes Britney and respects her but tbh she is way to big for that show. I think someone 'Simon' threw her name out there to create a buzz for the show, it hardly was the success simon predicted.

Britney would be a great judge people slag of her miming but she Can Sing she has talent, She owns the stage when she performs, she has had a ton of iconic performances, hit a rough patch but Came back where many write her off. there is a reason why Britney is still going 13 years after her debut and thats because she has that Spark which very small amount of artists have to sustain a long career.

Also in the U.S all her albums have Debut at either No.1 or No.2 which is very very hard to achieve when you have been out for so long.

Britney has a very sweet, humble personality.. she is so down to earth again which is rare with stars today.

The Show i think would help her bring back that great confidence she once had i mean she had a breakdown in front of the whole world to see of course she is going to feel embarrassed by it all, she is only human.
little-monster
24-03-2012
I don't want Britney to do it because it's not like she needs to. Paula Abdul and Nicole Scherzinger did need to keep their names in their press.

But it could show the American public and the world another side of Britney. It could really give her a confiedence with the public again.
O.Michel
24-03-2012
I would absolutely hate it if she took the job!!

First of all, 'X Factor US', despite the MASSIVE hype and the giant media campaign got about 11 million viewers per episode, while 'The Voice' and 'AI' are getting about 16-17 million right now and 'The Voice' isn't even live yet! 'XF US' didn't fail because of the judges, it failed because for the US the concept is nothing new! So, if the second season flops again, who is going to get the blame? BRITNEY!

Secondly, it might make people think of her as a TV personna rather than a recording artist. It's not that there's anything wrong with being a talent show judge (anymore). It used to be cheesy when Paula Abdul was the most popular one, but after 'The Voice' took off, judges are considered more credible. However, if people see a woman who hasn't really promoted her music on TV for years suddenly appear on TV for 3 hours a week, they might assume that being a judge suits her more.

Thirdly, according to the judges of season 1, the show is very time consuming, but Britney is taking her break right now. I wouldn't like her to waste her break. I want her to be ready to promote her behind off when her 8th album comes out, so she has a whole year to spend with her family now. Why pledge it to XF?

Britney has nothing to gain from XF US, but she has A LOT to lose! XF US would be beneficial if she had trouble selling records in the US, but she doesn't! 'FF' is her first album to spawn 3 top 10 singles and it sold 800k with no promo! Her problem is the international market, but she can't deal with that just by accepting a job as a judge. She already has the right material, all she needs to do is rehearse twice as much ( and twice as passionately) and PROMOTE.
ItsTimmyTime
24-03-2012
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“I would absolutely hate it if she took the job!!

First of all, 'X Factor US', despite the MASSIVE hype and the giant media campaign got about 11 million viewers per episode, while 'The Voice' and 'AI' are getting about 16-17 million right now and 'The Voice' isn't even live yet! 'XF US' didn't fail because of the judges, it failed because for the US the concept is nothing new! So, if the second season flops again, who is going to get the blame? BRITNEY!

Secondly, it might make people think of her as a TV personna rather than a recording artist. It's not that there's anything wrong with being a talent show judge (anymore). It used to be cheesy when Paula Abdul was the most popular one, but after 'The Voice' took off, judges are considered more credible. However, if people see a woman who hasn't really promoted her music on TV for years suddenly appear on TV for 3 hours a week, they might assume that being a judge suits her more.

Thirdly, according to the judges of season 1, the show is very time consuming, but Britney is taking her break right now. I wouldn't like her to waste her break. I want her to be ready to promote her behind off when her 8th album comes out, so she has a whole year to spend with her family now. Why pledge it to XF?

Britney has nothing to gain from XF US, but she has A LOT to lose! XF US would be beneficial if she had trouble selling records in the US, but she doesn't! 'FF' is her first album to spawn 3 top 10 singles and it sold 800k with no promo! Her problem is the international market, but she can't deal with that just by accepting a job as a judge. She already has the right material, all she needs to do is rehearse twice as much ( and twice as passionately) and PROMOTE.”


Everything you say is spot on in my book!

Still, It's exciting to see how it pans out, she could knock it out of the park!
SexiRokStarr
24-03-2012
She is massive in the US so there isn't really anything to gain but there's a lot to lose. It would be better if she was on UK X Factor.
ilovezenyatta
24-03-2012
Originally Posted by O.Michel:
“I would absolutely hate it if she took the job!!

First of all, 'X Factor US', despite the MASSIVE hype and the giant media campaign got about 11 million viewers per episode, while 'The Voice' and 'AI' are getting about 16-17 million right now and 'The Voice' isn't even live yet! 'XF US' didn't fail because of the judges, it failed because for the US the concept is nothing new! So, if the second season flops again, who is going to get the blame? BRITNEY!

Secondly, it might make people think of her as a TV personna rather than a recording artist. It's not that there's anything wrong with being a talent show judge (anymore). It used to be cheesy when Paula Abdul was the most popular one, but after 'The Voice' took off, judges are considered more credible. However, if people see a woman who hasn't really promoted her music on TV for years suddenly appear on TV for 3 hours a week, they might assume that being a judge suits her more.

Thirdly, according to the judges of season 1, the show is very time consuming, but Britney is taking her break right now. I wouldn't like her to waste her break. I want her to be ready to promote her behind off when her 8th album comes out, so she has a whole year to spend with her family now. Why pledge it to XF?

Britney has nothing to gain from XF US, but she has A LOT to lose! XF US would be beneficial if she had trouble selling records in the US, but she doesn't! 'FF' is her first album to spawn 3 top 10 singles and it sold 800k with no promo! Her problem is the international market, but she can't deal with that just by accepting a job as a judge. She already has the right material, all she needs to do is rehearse twice as much ( and twice as passionately) and PROMOTE.”

exactly what i was trying to say earlier
ilovezenyatta
24-03-2012
she said this on the people who criticized on her peforming abilites:

Spears' performing abilities were also criticized, specially the singer's dancing.[130] The singer responded to the critics saying that "I don’t really have anything to prove at this point. I just do it for fun and see what happens."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femme_F..._album)#Legacy

does this mean that she knows already an icon and she has nothing to prove anymore?
StateOfDreaming
24-03-2012
I find this whole thing a little odd, Britney is following the tragic hollywood starlet path, by being the biggest thing ever, adored by the public and then the media turned and she had that breakdown and know she into the relclusive ellusive starlet phase.

This just does not fit in, Britney has never been more private than she is now, we don't even see those starbucks runs anymore. Does she really want a camera in her face at all times.

She rarely looks comfortable when around members of the public, even fans, what is she going to be like come to bootcamp/judges houses phase when she will have to interact directlty with normal people.

I genuinely think this is awful, and will be the thing that will finally push Britney over the edge. The fact her team are even entertaining this idea proves to me that Britney the cash cow is far more important than Britney the extemely fragile human being.

As another poster said, does her team really want this when they can't even allow her to do a 5 minute interview without first reviewing all the questions, editing it themselves and controlling every aspect of it. Maybe they think they can micromanage her on the X Factor...then Simon really has bitten off more than even he can chew.

On paper she's perfect because she has it, against the odds she became one of the biggest stars in the world soley on having "it" but in reality I think this will ruin her and I'm not talking about in a prefessional capacity .
DEADLY_17
24-03-2012
Originally Posted by StateOfDreaming:
“I find this whole thing a little odd, Britney is following the tragic hollywood starlet path, by being the biggest thing ever, adored by the public and then the media turned and she had that breakdown and know she into the relclusive ellusive starlet phase.

This just does not fit in, Britney has never been more private than she is now, we don't even see those starbucks runs anymore. Does she really want a camera in her face at all times.

She rarely looks comfortable when around members of the public, even fans, what is she going to be like come to bootcamp/judges houses phase when she will have to interact directlty with normal people.

I genuinely think this is awful, and will be the thing that will finally push Britney over the edge. The fact her team are even entertaining this idea proves to me that Britney the cash cow is far more important than Britney the extemely fragile human being.

As another poster said, does her team really want this when they can't even allow her to do a 5 minute interview without first reviewing all the questions, editing it themselves and controlling every aspect of it. Maybe they think they can micromanage her on the X Factor...then Simon really has bitten off more than even he can chew.

On paper she's perfect because she has it, against the odds she became one of the biggest stars in the world soley on having "it" but in reality I think this will ruin her and I'm not talking about in a prefessional capacity .”


Ever since her comeback her Team Larry and Adam have ruined her imo they have tried so hard to re-create her debut image i.e Circus era.

There's a reason why she dumped them , she hated being controlled and being told what to do.

I guarantee if she was her own Boss she would be the ITZ Britney again doing what she wants. I just hope it isnt Larry Forcing Britney's hand on the contract, i mean if they really had sense they would realise Britney does not need the X-factor, also this will drain her emotionally and physically, she will be knackered to do a new album.

I just hope it is Britney's choice and not her handlers
CSweeet7
24-03-2012
^ Can I just say that in my original post, I meant that I think Britney can sing - I think she has a fantastic voice. It's just what she does lip-synch quite a lot and she has a stigma attached to her about not singing live it will be extremely hard for her to be taken seriously on the judging panel.

And I really don't think people should be worried about her getting the blame for the failure of the second season. It's not as if she's Nicole Scherizinger, she is Britney Spears after all.
cnbcwatcher
24-03-2012
Originally Posted by Theshane:
“They could have saved 20 million and hired a MacBook. It would have equal singing ability and more right to judge people on ability.”

They should go for a Macbook Pro though, they're better at that than the Macbook Airs. At least mine says so anyway It's a great laptop, I will never buy a Windows PC again Once you go Mac you never go back...
ilovezenyatta
25-03-2012
Hope Britney joins the show it'll get more ratings than Jennifer Lopez and Christina aguilera!!
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