can anyone get more then 7.5 meg on T-Mobile

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

I heard somewhere that those 21mbps and 42mbps connections may be for mobile broadband only

Surely just any device that can receive HSPA+ ? unless T-mobile are messing about with throttles on people's accounts without telling anyone.

ajh94 · 25-03-2012, 20:28

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Surely just any device that can receive HSPA+ ? unless T-mobile are messing about with throttles on people's accounts without telling anyone.

Yeah I think it's accounts, I may be wrong but I read that somewhere a while back that those 21 and 42mb speeds may be just for mobile broadband users, but who knows.

Why do you think we can't get more than 7.5mbps? Do you think it's a cap on Orange users accounts? Or a cap on T-Mobile users as well?

I know GPRS Consumer is up to 1.8mbps... So maybe GPRS Premium is up to 7.5mbps rather than completely uncapped.

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

That was finished ages ago, they are planning 42mbps now.

The 21Mbs HSPA+ rollout has yet to be completed. My area only has HSPDA presently but 3 have stated they hope all areas will have up to 21Mbs by the 3rd quarter of 2012.

As for 42 Mbs HSPA+, that requires customers to buy new equipment. Only the iPad 3 has it on-board as standard to date. Future handsets and dongles will be suitably equipped but only those customers with new HSPA+ 42Mbs compatable gear will be able to enjoy any improvments as and when they are rolled out.

3 are likely to 'muddy the waters' as they consider anything over 10Mbs as 4G! So expect them to be selling HSPA+ 42Mbs equipment as 4G, just as T-Mobile have done in the USA.

Customers will be confused no end!

ajh94 · 25-03-2012, 21:55

I just wanna know why we can't seem to get more than 7.5mbps down! Is it just Orange customers roaming on T-Mobile or T-Mobile customers too? Is it a cap. I hate caps and such so I wanna know why its doing that. Have a feeling it could be the GPRS Premium. Anyone else in Orange or T-Mobile unable to get more than 7.5mbps down and 2.3mbps up???

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 22:36

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I just wanna know why we can't seem to get more than 7.5mbps down! Is it just Orange customers roaming on T-Mobile or T-Mobile customers too? Is it a cap. I hate caps and such so I wanna know why its doing that. Have a feeling it could be the GPRS Premium. Anyone else in Orange or T-Mobile unable to get more than 7.5mbps down and 2.3mbps up???

Why do you need more than 7.5Mbs on a mobile device?

That is more than adequate for a mobile phone for data and as good as most wired ADSL connections in the UK.

wilt · 25-03-2012, 22:39

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3 are likely to 'muddy the waters' as they consider anything over 10Mbs as 4G! So expect them to be selling HSPA+ 42Mbs equipment as 4G, just as T-Mobile have done in the USA.

That is not true.

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 22:42

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That is not true.

Really...... Explain this then from the 3 website....

"What is 4G coverage?

Our 3G network allows you to access the internet on your phone and connect devices like tablets and laptops to the internet through 3G Mobile Broadband. 4G, also known as fourth generation networks, lets you do all of this but even faster.

With 4G, you'll be able to get speeds of up to ten megabits per second which is up to six times faster than 3G."

http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-...,Case=obj(4040)

wilt · 25-03-2012, 22:47

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Really...... Explain this then from the 3 website....

"With 4G, you'll be able to get speeds of up to ten megabits per second which is up to six times faster than 3G"

http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-...,Case=obj(4040)

I think I would be insulting your intelligence if I actually thought you believed that and I needed to point out that that must be a mistake.

Are Three advertising that 1.6mbps is the best you can expect from their 3g network? It's obviously meant to say 100mbps.

I can't see the link because it doesn't work, btw.

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 22:52

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I think I would be insulting your intelligence if I actually thought I needed to point out to you that that must be a mistake.

Are Three advertising that 1.6mbps is the best you can expect from their 3g network? It's obviously meant to say 100mbps.

Really..... well you can take what is written and make up anything you like! It says quite clearly 'Ten Magabits a second'.

My wages each month I'd love to add an extra zero to but I tend to belive what is on the payslip.

If it's a mistake perhaps it should be pointed out to them and they can amend it although they still have to trial LTE in the UK so perhaps they are being deliberately conservative with their estimate.

10Mbs is actually more than enough to do what they have stated on their website.

wilt · 25-03-2012, 22:58

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Really..... well you can take what is written and make up anything you like! It says quite clearly 'Ten Magabits a second'.

My wages each month I'd love to add an extra zero to but I tend to belive what is on the payslip.

If it's a mistake perhaps it should be pointed out to them and they can amend it although they still have to trial LTE in the UK so perhaps they are being deliberately conservative with their estimate.

10Mbs is actually more than enough to do what they have stated on their website.

Oh, please. Why would they start advertising 4g as slower than what they're advertising their 3g network as at the moment?

LTE deployments tend to be advertised around 100mbps. The person making the help article made a mistake.

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 23:01

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Oh, please. Why would they start advertising 4g as slower than what they're advertising their 3g network as at the moment?

LTE deployments tend to be advertised around 100mbps. The person making the help article made a mistake.

Really, well tell them - not me.

I got the information directly from the 3 website in their about 4G section. If it's wrong they have to amend it. It's their claim presently.

Meanwhile the question has not been answered about why anyone would require more than 7.5Mbs on a mobile? That sort of performance should be more than adequate.

ajh94 · 25-03-2012, 23:02

I don't care if we need more or not, Three gets more on the same mast and I wanna know why and I wanna know if we have a cap on our accounts.

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 23:06

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I don't care if we need more or not, Three gets more on the same mast and I wanna know why and I wanna know if we have a cap on our accounts.

Who cares what the speeds are if you can do all you need to on a handset!

Managing data is something all networks do to some extent to ensure all users get a decent quality of service. It's no good one person getting 15Mbs and all the rest getting 1Mbs.... perhaps that explains some of the customer dissatisfaction with some networks. Under promising is better than boasting and not meeting expectations.

Thine Wonk · 25-03-2012, 23:08

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Who cares what the speeds are if you can do all you need to on a handset!

Managing data is something all networks do to some extent to ensure all users get a decent quality of service. It's no good one person getting 15Mbs and all the rest getting 1Mbs.... perhaps that explains some of the customer dissatisfaction with some networks. Under promising is better than boasting and not meeting expectations.

I see you couldn't help yourself

And then you wonder why people judge you on your posts.

wilt · 25-03-2012, 23:08

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Really, well tell them - not me.

I got the information directly from the 3 website in their about 4G section. If it's wrong they have to amend it. It's their claim presently.

Meanwhile the question has not been answered about why anyone would require more than 7.5Mbs on a mobile? That sort of performance should be more than adequate.

Well I'm not really that bothered, just trying to correct an inaccurate post.

I agree that 7.5mbps is fast enough for a mobile, though. But there's no harm in asking around to see if anybody else has managed to get faster speeds.

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 23:11

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Well I'm not really that bothered, just trying to correct an inaccurate post.

I agree that 7.5mbps is fast enough for a mobile, though.

My post was 100% accurate with a direct link to the source.

Calling it otherwise is simply untruthful.

Question the accuracy of the network's information by all means but the post made was backed up by facts quoted from the network's own website.

ajh94 · 25-03-2012, 23:12

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Well I'm not really that bothered, just trying to correct an inaccurate post.

I agree that 7.5mbps is fast enough for a mobile, though. But there's no harm in asking around to see if anybody else has managed to get faster speeds.

Exactly, it's more than enough... I simply want to know why and whether it's a cap

wavejockglw · 25-03-2012, 23:12

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Exactly, it's more than enough... I simply want to know why and whether it's a cap

If its more than enough, and it remains so... why does it matter?

wilt · 25-03-2012, 23:18

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My post was 100% accurate with a direct link to the source.

Calling it otherwise is simply untruthful.

Question the accuracy of the network's information by all means but the post made was backed up by facts quoted from the network's own website.

Sorry, but linking to an obvious mistake in order to back up an untruth does not make the post accurate. It is a mistake by somebody at Three and that is clear to anybody who has the slightest bit of background knowledge on this stuff.

Attempting to take advantage of that mistake to fit a certain agenda is indefensible.

ajh94 · 25-03-2012, 23:20

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