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Eehhh we have a part 2!

Link to my video for Eden again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QahfK...1&feature=plcp

Thank you Holz! I'm glad you like it!

Got all excited for a new thread but then realised I can't quote from the old one and cba copy and pasting posts to quote since I'm on my iPod again and it's just too much trouble.

Defiantly don't want Sally to get in the way of carchelle in the office, would totally ruin things and I hate Sally even more than normal when she has a bit of power as she gets all high and mighty, defiantly hoping carla turns her down.
Don't like Leanne thinking she's got all these rights to Simon. I would never deny them a relationship but Peter is the boys dad so IMO he should have custody. Hopefully the custody battle will give us some good carter support scenes.

Not sure if they'll be on tonight. I know they where taken out of the spoilers to stop the killer being given away but hopefully well atleast get a couple of scenes even if nohing significant happens with them.

Yaaaay we have a part 2! Go us

wooo look at us getting a 2nd part... true carter fans

lets hope we have some good carter spoilers today/tomo

I have to admit, I think I'm getting a little addicted to this song. It's currently being loaded to my iPod!

So no Carla in tonight's episodes
I'm torn. I'm pleased Ali is obviously getting a well deserved break, but in a selfish way I really missed her on my screen We've been treated to so much Carla lately that it feels like the end of the world (okay, maybe a small exaggeration...) when she isn't in two consecutive episodes.
And I can't believe the murderer reveal was only a week ago! It seems like so long ago now...and I miss the amount of Carla drama we were being treated to!

I don't just watch corrie for Carla and Peter but it really does tend to be better when they're in it. Despite things being better for Carla its such a shame that the big storing is all over now really since it really did make the whole programme more interesting. I quite liked tonights episodes but not happy about the lack of carter, I understand it but I would still rather they had a couple of scenes thrown in for us.

Woohoo to part 2 of the thread
Tthough I do agree kitkat, it does make multi-quote posting too much hassle. Bah!

So attempting to reference what I can remember from old thread and Thursday and Friday eps, or what I can remember until tiredness kicks in and I have to attempt to sleep!

Thanks those who replied, it is good to be back on here

Agree it's good that Stella is feeling guilty. The fact she does feel guilty does suggest that word has got out about why Anne killed Frank though, otherwise why would Stella suddenly believe Carla was raped. Hope she does apologise to Carla.

re Carchelle on Thursday.

that TeamC&P on the old thread introduced the verb "barlow" in reference to drinking, think the earlier conversation about an alternative meaning of the word as a verb was before you joined the thread, but it reminded me of that conversation (just thought I'd be the first to lower the tone of part 2 of the thread)

carlow barlow, yes that was my fic, thanks for the review.

Re custody battle

RE insomnia, using spoilers as off topic

Will have to catch up with the fan videos and fanfics at some point, but maybe not tonight. Well I might do one or two fics only. There seems to have been a sudden increase in fanfic, not that I'm complaining, but it's going to take a while to catch up and review it all.

I knew that when I said it might in some ways be good to get a break from Carla and Peter as it has been in so intense, that I'd miss them when they weren't there. Even my wife, who missed a few episodes asked for an update on their storyline and seemed disappointed that there didn't seem to be one.

Re Sunita and Karl and someone drawing C&P parallels to the car scene. I didn't really get that, but I was really resentful the other night when they were having a secret liaison in the alley, I was all "that's Carla and Peter's secret alley, get out!" although, I'm sure it has been used by other couples in the past.

fanic request: it might be a bit hard to write but i think it would be quite interesting to read a fic about what could of happened if leanne and carla were still bestfriends when peter and carla had the affair.as if leanne never found out carla fancied peter.i just think it would be interesting to read if anyone wouldn't mind having a go at writing it??

Yey to lowering the tone! I remember the last barlowed conversation purely because I was the one that said I was barlowed and can't say I would be unhappy with the alternative meaning. (though it would have to be peter, not ken I don't fancy being 1001)

I hate that there are comparisons between Karl/sunita and peter/Carla because our carter is about so much more and was built up over a long time and is just generally a better sl. And agree they totally own that alley, I love that scene 'where d'ya want me? Over the bins?' pha

Ali deserves a break, but I agree, Corrie without Carla is... dull :/

holly1412, I may give it a go, only thing is, I really want to read someone else's version! So, I'll agree to give it a go only if someone else does too :P

Ohhh, i like this, but then again i love all your videos so I'm not suprised, you're always good at using all fancy effects and matching up the clips to song lyrics
Definatly like the song choice Eden, agree that it works to have somthing more this style for Frank and Carla.

Oh, and i also watched you 'born to die' video whilst playing the music behind it, don't know why i havn't allready done this must have run out of time then forgotten or something when you first posted it. Anyway, this may be my fave Carter video as the clips really do suit the song ridiculouisly well, plus i love the song so it's doing it for me. did amuse me for the first few seconds though trying to match up the video witht he song as i played it. can tell you listen to the music a lot when you edit it as all the transitions fit to the tune and me being slightly ocd i had to make sure i got them perfectly in time.

Aww thank you Yes I do listen to the song whilst making them, I'm so glad you like them

Mad! Wow I adore the video so much! Love all the effects and the rapid changing between scenes (clearly I know so many technical terms). Some of the shots with certain lyrics are exactly like I pictured it in my head. Basically you just made me very giddy and I found it very effective. But then I've loved that song for the longest time.

And count me as another vote for not wanting Sally to buy into the factory. For all the niceness in their last scene I just think giving Sally that kind of power would just upset the balance. I don’t think their personalities are compatible at all and Sally always gets unbearable when she’s after power. Maybe if she’s finally allowed to succeed she might relax and be a better person but I just don’t want to find out. Also Carla may have said there was no need to apologise/wants to put it all behind them etc but I don’t think she could instantly trust Sally as a business partner after how cruel she has been. I like Carla working with Michelle and Hayley as supervisor too much.

I was doing a multi post a few nights back and had to go out so I just put it in word as I was half way through yet another essay so expect that soon but just remembered a few people taking about Carla giving up on the factory. I’d rather she didn’t, or at least waited till everything with Frank is properly in the past. What would concern me is that the factory means that Carla interacts with a lot of characters she wouldn’t otherwise. If she wasn’t there it would dramatically limit who she would have scenes with. And also they would have to find the perfect thing for her to do instead. Couldn’t be any existing job on the street and I think she will still need to be her own boss. I’m not sure how it would work.

Yay too part two but boo at losing old posts.

And the multi post from the old thread I meant to post days ago. Apologise for saying stuff that’s already been covered but everyone said such interesting things that I wanted to comment on.


I love your drunk posts, they make an impressive amount of sense and are just highly amusing.


Shall see if I can get around to it. I already have far too many overdue stories already. I also didn’t like those park scenes at all.


It’s already been said but Peter is pretty much an open book compared to Carla. He may drink but he is a lot more willing to talk about his feelings and the past. Carla has spent a great majority of the time covering her emotions then going home alone and drinking herself into oblivion. There is also the fact that Peter has family on the street and that they have always been there so a lot more of his past is out in the open. Everything we know abut Carla’s past is really from one of the Connor’s talking about her so the information is already second hand. Also with Carla you have to read into the subtext of her actions/her words. For a straight talking person she hides an awful lot.
But if you ever get bored watching old Carla episodes is a great way to spend time. Like I saw some episodes last night that I haven’t seen before that gave context to when Carla slapped Maria. It made Carla’s actions seem a lot more justifiable and Maria rather passive aggressive and insecure.


I think Carla also feels the same way, she said as much to Trevor. Trouble was Carla and Liam had all these feeling and understanding and potential but they never made anything off it. They never had a chance so it would always be a question of what might have been. Even the affair wasn’t really an affair. They slept together twice when Liam and Maria had separated and once more in a ‘can’t fight the passion any longer’ type scenario. I think it’s pretty certain that if Liam had not died Carla would not have looked twice at Peter. Sure there would have been problems but most of them were external and situational. It was their loyalty to Paul that kept them apart. When it came down to it they understood each other very well. I think Alison said Liam was the first person she ever trusted enough to show the ‘real her’.
There was always the Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton comparison that I felt was very deliberate by the writers. When Liam first got with Maria, Sean compared them to the couple and Maria was all “Who?” and then of course there is that reference when Liam and Carla first got together. And while no relationship is perfect I do feel Liam and Carla were right for each other and that they did stand a chance if they got out of each others way. If Liam had survived and they got together I can’t help but think it would either be like a fanfiction on cf (What If) or they would be like Taylor and Burton, they would be passionate and they would argue and break up but they will always come back to each other and can’t do without one another.


Thank you love. I do enjoy a bit of ego boosting . I will post a link or something if I do end up writing a birthday fic.


It’s all a little incestuous when you really think about it. The conversations these people could have. Maria and Peter always felt incredibly wrong to me. Even visually because Peter is a clear adult with issues and what not and Maria is young and younger looking. They just don’t go together past a short sexual relationship. Maria is also rather immature and naïve personality wise. They don’t gel at all.
And Liam and Leanne always strikes me as bizarre and looking back I find it interesting because before hand, and after when things ended so badly, Liam often went for pretty, unchallenging, docile type girls. Leanne was like the first step towards a more Carla type person and while this was all happening Leanne was literally emulating Carla and trying to fit into their group as a way to battling her extremely low self worth. Possibly over thinking but I just like the way it all fits together.


I was very glad she did not mention children. It just wouldn’t be in character and I’m a bit anti making my fave character pregnant anyway (hate it when make out independent, strong woman can only find fulfilment through children. Not that its not a valid choice to make it just feels like some characters are forced into the mould). To the point that I will stop reading a story if it turns out to be all about pregnancy.
It’s heartbreaking that Carla has only really just been looking to belong all this time. She just wants a simple life and to be happy but with everything that has happened I think she will really struggle to get out of her own way for that to ever happen.


Paul was like a saviour for all involved and that’s the way he liked it. Yes he did take Carla away from the life she could have had and that would have made him appealing but Carla did genuinely love him, she spent about ten years of her life with him and for all their problems she never cheated (see Carla is clearly capable of a long term committed relationship) I think Carla probably matured quite early (probably had too) so she would have had more of a connection with Paul.
Liam was always in Paul’s shadow and so played up the fact he was younger and immature. I get the feeling he would have been to immature and a late developer for Carla back when she first got with Paul. They were in different stages of their lives.
It does bug me that people make out Carla was using Paul. He wasn’t just a meal ticket he was her husband. She was entirely committed. She wasn’t just some bimbo wag type that had the factory land on her lap. For the whole time she’s been on the show Carla fought to be working, for her own business. With things like Paul spending the money they set aside for her it was almost like he was sabotaging her. She was constantly being told who she was and she sort of played up the role sometimes. Plus Paul pretty much gave Liam everything he had and yet that never seemed to get judged as much.


I wouldn’t really like Ryan back because I don’t rate the actor and I imagine he would have boring storylines but I wouldn’t mind him visiting during holidays or something just to see how he would relate to Carla and Michelle now. I wonder how much Michelle would have told him during her visit. What happened is not something that’s easy to bring up especially when it was so recent. I think I just miss the rest of the Connor family. Even though I didn’t like most of them they did add something to the dynamic of the main characters.


Reminds me to hurry up and go comment on What Was Done when I get a chance. Honestly it really impressed me. All the way through the rape plot Carla has been blaming herself or putting words into peoples mouths like she was in the interview and she kept on saying “I know what you’re thinking.”


I like him. I think generally Corrie does reoccurring characters well and use the same actors over a long period of time.


It’s got to the point that when a new old episode is uploaded me and a friend tend to watch it at the same time and make comments over text because we keep noticing things we never noticed before. I don’t even care if that is sad. But yes I did notice that no matter what Carla and Liam say to each other, even when they are insulting one another their body language tells another story. Carla is forever touching him and he never complains, he just lets her.


It was very obvious although a lot of us online might put more thought into it than a casual viewer I guess. I think the whodunit worked well for publicity and the episodes were very good. Just happened that we all guessed way in advanced. Honestly I think it could have worked better if they showed the scene carrying on with Carla and then Anne killing him. They would not have to change anything really and I think the storyline would be equally effective as we watched the police try to work out who killed him. Also if they hadn’t bothered with the guess who I suspect they would have gone into much more detail with the aftermath.


Most defiantly, it was never going to be a normal relationship. Frank would have got more obsessed and controlling and Carla would have eventually snapped and pushed back and something terrible would happen. Watching old episodes when they were a couple I find myself cringing now. Lots of little things he says and does are very telling but were always done in such a way that you wouldn’t really notice till it is too late. If Carla hadn’t been dealing with Peter/her mothers death/drinking/depression etc she would have ‘rebelled’ against Frank’s control a lot earlier I think.


How the heck did she get out so quickly? She literally had seconds before Peter appeared. And where were Michelle and Maria?


Totally. Love how Carla remained calm and she was sensible and talked Anne down. It’s a fitting ending in a lot of ways. So glad she didn’t need saving.


Tar love, a bit now but I’ve got a work trial thing starting tomorrow. Been wanting something for ages and now I’ve got it I wish it wasn’t coming so quickly. Feel like I’ve forgotten how to work.


That was me. She doesn’t get pictured smoking that often at all considering how often they are photographed. But I have seen a random pic of her smoking in the tram crash outfit (but I think a live episodes qualifies as stressful enough for the odd fag). It’s very typical of actors on their type of schedules to smoke as well, all that waiting around. Hell from experience I think there is pretty much a generation of theatre actors where nearly all of them smoke. I’m not addicted but I smoke when highly stressed/upset or socially while drunk. I think I’d find myself tempted being that close to a smoker all day. Well done you for quitting btw.

Gone over word limit again


Ha, after the week before I don’t think either of them had the time for something as ordinary as food shopping. In my head I’ve decided that Carla is not big on food. She can’t and doesn’t like to cook, she eats out a lot, when she’s down there are always often others trying to tempt her into eating. Plus she’s been only looking after herself for a while, it is easier to just forget about making proper meals. It’s my head cannon anyway and it makes me happy as I’m quite similar (may have had a mild temper tantrum over trying to make dinner tonight)


I always get really interested when they talk about Carla’s drinking. Sometimes it seems like she’s being pulled in two different directions. Like drinking is a negative thing around Peter and yet Michelle and Maria both provide her with drink. Sort of fits my theory that in controlled normal conditions she can drink fine. It just becomes an expression when she drinks for emotional reasons/binge drinking.
I think that at the moment it has been the worst possible time for Carla to face up to her drinking. She’s been too fragile and in need of all her coping mechanisms while after everything that has happened. I hope that when she is able to put Frank behind her she will be strong enough to confront the drink issue.


They did make quite a good couple and I love that episode. Steve looks mildly terrified when Carla gets over familiar. In fact I’m sure in an older episode before he gets together with Michelle he admits Carla terrifies him


Way I figured it the police were just lying to her because they believed she was guilty and were trying to force her into confession. Everyone but Anne’s fingerprints were probably on it as I imagine she still had her gloves on. I guess that once they heard about the contract, even if they couldn’t find it, combined with their history Carla had waaaay more motive than everyone else and she was the last person to see him alive. Anne’s confession also explained the filling cabinet/table thing. What I don’t get is why we never saw any broken glass at the scene.


The way it was always in front of Peter made me smile. People could make so much out of little things like that.


I just naturally suspended belief and treated it like an aside as if we were watching a play. Maybe Maria and Michelle were concentrating on the service or even giving Carla a little privacy by not listening on purpose.
Random observation; that was yet another wedding/funeral that Carla has run out before the end. She’s been doing this since Liam’s funeral.


With the size of the knife (made all my knives feel rather inadequate. Not that I’m planning on having to threaten anyone with one) and the sound effect when Anne cut her it should have been more of an injury. All they had to do was stick a bandage on her hand and mention stitches or something. Carla would have to be very lucky for it only to scratch her.
And I’m working on a fic carrying on from Anne dropping the knife but I think it will take me a while.


I assumed Carla was just tired of having to talk and think about everything that has happened and is probably trying to process it. Also she’s feeling sympathy for Anne so might feel a need to protect her in some way. Of course she wants people to know the truth but to have to actually come out and explain that it all happened because Frank did indeed rape her, and his mum overheard him threatening to do it again, is not something I think she would ever feel comfortable saying.

Eden, love your posts! Would like to reply to them but i feel it's going to be a mammoth task and so i shalln't start now, since i do have to be up in about 5 hours so i should probably get some sleep.

I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!

One random note, I really want Carla to have her hair like she did in that scene with Trevor where she bit into his pie :P Her hair was kind of down, but her fringe pined back, not sure if they could really do it now that she doesn't have a fringe.

And also, in that scene I use a lot in my videos aha, where she is on the street in her cream coat, and Peter's buying flowers for someone, and she kind of has her hair in a bob/ pony tail and pined back in places.

Just had a little glance in soap life says Carla agrees to Sally's offer and it also says she struggles playing mum to Simon... Ken goes behind peters back with Leanne regarding Simon so still no good stuff for carter lol I haven't read any other mag yet tho

Ah, bit annoyed, want Carla/ Carla and Michelle to run it.

It's sounding a bit.. not good

Oh and Eden, I agree. I say I'd love Carla to have a baby, but truthfully I wouldn't. It just doesn't seem to be something she wants, and also, if she did have a baby (in the nicest way possible) she'd be stuck with it, and I'd be worried Ali would get bored playing her and then leave.

Thanks!

I really should be packing my bag for tomorrow and/or getting ready to leave to see my client, but what the hell.


So glad I'm not the only one then! Don't get me wrong if something's well written but happens to involve Carla getting pregnant I often just try and go with it, but there seems to be a lot of... shall we say not exactly amazingly written stuff floating around lately basically playing out some odd fantasy about Peter and Carla living happily ever after with a kid, which to be honest I can't really see happening.


Exactly. And that's true about Carla maturing more quickly than Liam - I hadn't really thought about it like that but it does make a lot of sense.


N'aw, thanks


Two scenes stand out for me with regards to Frank's behaviour pre-rape. The scene in which he basically manipulates Carla into agreeing to marry him is really unsettling, the way he makes her out to be selfish and petty, and then he brings Peter in because he knows that'll hurt her... Argh it's just awful. And the other one being when Frank surprised Carla by taking her back to that house which he's now bought, and goes on about turning that room into a nursery. The scene later on when they're sat in the kitchen and he's got his arm around her... The way he says about the kid being asleep upstairs, despite the fact that he can no doubt see from Carla's reaction she's not keen... I dunno, it just gives me the creeps. Andrew Lancel did a brilliant job of playing that subtly creepy, something's-not-quite-right thing.



For some odd reason I had an idea for a fic a few months ago about when Carla was first seeing Paul (I abandoned it because I couldn't work out the logisitics) but in that I was gonna have some underlying issue around food, like she wouldn't have a full blown eating disorder but there was something there. I dunno why or how it entered my head, but maybe we're picking up on the same kind of thing.





Anyway. I'm off to Yorkshire tomorrow morning until Saturday, so I'll see you all then. *sniff* I'll miss you!