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What, you mean you haven't seen the "It were always Liam" scene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS2kK...872E827AACA385 6:50 onwards. As much as she probably did always have feelings for Liam (I think love is maybe a bit strong, certainly before Paul died anyway), I don't think it was a case of her not loving Paul, or using Paul to get closer to Liam or anything like that. From what's been said Carla and Liam were closer in age, more alike, both had similar outlooks and had a mutual understanding which perhaps she didn't feel she got from Paul. But I think it was a different kind of love she had for them both. Going off on a tangent but rewatching that scene has brought me back to my whole transference theory with Carter, and it's interesting how Carla practically admits it herself in this scene, albeit talking about Trevor and not Peter. "But from the bottom of a glass, there was just enough likeness for a life". Remember what she said to Maria at Peter and Leanne's blessing about the night the tram crashed and she was 'back there' the night Liam died? Not that I'm saying Carla doesn't love Peter in his own right, but I do still think at least at the start it was a lot to do with Liam and not wanting what happened there to repeat itself. |
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Do you think she loved him when she was with Paul? I kind of thought them coming together had a lot to do with Paul dying and them seeking comfort in one another. She even say's at one point that he's like Paul but not as messed up (or words to that effect). Obviously they cared for one another, and there was an attraction (because they're bot hot) but I never got the impression it was more than that when Paul was still alive?
![]() Anyway, BIB - I actually don't believe either Carla, or Liam were initially fully conscious of their growing feelings towards each other when Paul was alive. I think they always loved each other (probably, more than brother and sister from the word go, but they weren't fully aware of it). There must always have been a connection there from the moment they met. The attraction towards each other was palpable. All that frisson, and sniping?!! However, I think when Paul died, their feelings towards each other just deepened,...a lot. Which would not have occurred if they didn't have strong feelings for each other to start with. I think they became more subtly aware of it, when Paul died. I also think the feelings that they had, confused them both, which is why they spent so much time in denial. I also think so much of those feelings towards each other were coupled with guilt about having those feelings, because of Paul. Later, there was also confusion that perhaps those feelings were there because they were both still grieving for Paul (at least that is what Liam had convinced himself about Carla), and somehow they needed each other. I think they both tried to convince themselves that somehow, Carla was replacing Paul with Liam, because Carla missed Paul. However, in time, I think Carla allowed herself to examine those feelings that she had more, and soon realised that those feelings for Liam, went beyond her love/hate relationship with Paul. That she genuinely loved Liam for the person that he was. Which is why she soon attempted to broach the topic with Liam. You will recall that night when she went round to Liam's house to talk to him. The night he interrupted her, by telling her that he was getting engaged to Maria? Liam on the other hand, continued to be confused, and deliberately in denial, and wasn't prepared to examine those feelings,...until it was way, way too late,...and ultimately, deadly. So, Liam's way of brushing those feelings aside, was to start dating Maria, and then rushing head-first into getting engaged, and subsequently marrying Maria. It's really sad how Liarla ended up. I loved, loved, loved the Liarla relationship, and I love, love, love the Carter relationship for entirely different reasons. But, no time to discuss now, I'm afraid, or I'll never get on with stuff I'm supposed to be doing this evening. ![]() Happy watching.
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Hi Holz - I owe you a MQ - will be in touch.
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Going off on a tangent but rewatching that scene has brought me back to my whole transference theory with Carter, and it's interesting how Carla practically admits it herself in this scene, albeit talking about Trevor and not Peter. "But from the bottom of a glass, there was just enough likeness for a life". Remember what she said to Maria at Peter and Leanne's blessing about the night the tram crashed and she was 'back there' the night Liam died? Not that I'm saying Carla doesn't love Peter in his own right, but I do still think at least at the start it was a lot to do with Liam and not wanting what happened there to repeat itself.
I don't think she thought she'd feel love like that again (and neither did Liam as he said that to her) so when she did with Peter, she was going to get him at any cost, ie. her friendship and her reputation. |
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Football disrupting Corrie. It'd better not overrun.
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Carla's reached the final of two different polls. You can vote for her clicking each of these links:
Your Favourite Coronation Street Character 2013 - Final Vote! Your Favourite Soap Character 2013 - The Final |
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Carla's reached the final of two different polls. You can vote for her clicking each of these links:
Your Favourite Coronation Street Character 2013 - Final Vote! Your Favourite Soap Character 2013 - The Final ![]() Eh I want her to win! Vote vote voteeee! |
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I have put my vote in for both
sorry for the delayed reply but thank you to who gave me the corrie address to send my letter to. was disappointed to see in the soap mag they think peter and leanne may get back together when the kylie and nick thing comes out, really hope this isnt what happens
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I have put my vote in for both
sorry for the delayed reply but thank you to who gave me the corrie address to send my letter to. was disappointed to see in the soap mag they think peter and leanne may get back together when the kylie and nick thing comes out, really hope this isnt what happens ![]() I can see Leanne either going to be Peter, or Peter finding her upset, and it all unraveling from their. It will be such a huge shame, as Carla and Peter have a bigger fanbase - they won a poll on here the other day about best soap couple/ onscreen chemistry, and I think the writers/ producer should utilise it, not ruin it. |
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Sorry but I dont know how to do the quote reply thing.
![]() Yeah i agree with you. it would be nice if we could get a pleasant surprise for once and peter will reject leanne. Just checking, was that poll the one with actress, actor, etc on it as well. |
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I'm not convinced about a Peter/Leanne reunion anymore. The writer have had Peter choose Carla multiple times, given the choice. I suppose it depends on the new Exec too and how much say he has - hopefully he's a Carter fan.
![]() I worry what would happen to Carla if her and Peter split up, I'm not sure the character would stick around. |
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I'm not convinced about a Peter/Leanne reunion anymore. The writer have had Peter choose Carla multiple times, given the choice. I suppose it depends on the new Exec too and how much say he has - hopefully he's a Carter fan.
![]() I worry what would happen to Carla if her and Peter split up, I'm not sure the character would stick around. |
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Oh gosh, we're back to worrying over Petanne again
I want so much to believe that when Peter chose Carla over Leanne, he made his final decision. He's been fitting in a lot better with Michelle and Rob lately, and he and Carla have seemed really happy, and now Leanne has quit the bookies, Peter and Leanne have had no on-screen interaction at all to suggest any feelings remain. Last we heard Leanne 'hates' Peter, so I'm hoping (praying) she won't go crawling back yet again. I also hope the new producer can see beyond repeating the love square yet again. Not holding my breath though. That Christmas near-kiss got a hell of a lot of screen time to just be forgotten about so quickly. Re whether Carla would stay if she and Peter split up, realistically I'm not sure the character would, seeing as she basically returned from LA in the first place for Peter, but whether Ali will decide there's nowhere else to take the character and leave I wouldn't like to guess. In other news,
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If Carla loses both Peter and Michelle, I am so done, over, finished with Corrie. Saying this now and sticking to it. |
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Sorry I'm not MQing at the moment, I've lost my motivation!
Apparently magazines are now speculating the Petanne reunion I genuinely think it is imminent, I really do, and I don't think it will be long. Saying that once again it'll be so poorly written and random, I'd like to hope I can laugh at it and hope Carla comes off better. I will cry my eyes out if Ali leaves.And gutted about Michelle. I love her and Carla in the Factory, but in one way it may give Carla/ Rob a chance to bond, I dunno, but Michelle and Carla BETTER still interact! |
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I think we're over-reacting a tad. ONE soap magazine has said they THINK that is what is going to happen. We've had no indication of this whatsoever. And with The Rovers fire etc happening soon, I think they'll save the Kylie reveal until later, and even when that comes out I highly doubt she'll jump straight in Peter's arms, she is married to Nick now.
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I am sooo sorry to have depressed people with my post
I have faith they will stay together with chemistry like they have the producers cant throw it away And just to add I am defo pro beard on peter
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And gutted about Michelle. I love her and Carla in the Factory, but in one way it may give Carla/ Rob a chance to bond, I dunno, but Michelle and Carla BETTER still interact!
The one positive about Michelle leaving the factory is that Carla and Rob might be able to build on their relationship separate to Rob's pathetic pursuit of Michelle. I do worry that it'll separate Michelle from that family unit though, and I for one would be really sad to see that happen as to me Carla and Michelle are very much still family. Quote:
I think we're over-reacting a tad. ONE soap magazine has said they THINK that is what is going to happen. We've had no indication of this whatsoever. And with The Rovers fire etc happening soon, I think they'll save the Kylie reveal until later, and even when that comes out I highly doubt she'll jump straight in Peter's arms, she is married to Nick now.
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And just to add I am defo pro beard on peter
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#2717 granny smith Forum Member Quote: Originally Posted by Oldnjaded OMG, Sharon Marshall on TM just confirmed that the spoilers are true and Michelle Connor will be the new landlady of the Rovers after the fire! How will she afford that then? What will happen to Stella? I think she said Michelle Collins (Stella) Not Michelle Connor |
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It was speculation from one mag.They speculated same as everyone else has done here, after the dreadful christmas eps with the square, and having no follow up of any decent scenes and throwing Kylie in. It didn't have any official source or anything in it.
I'm pretty sure the last I heard a couple of weeks ago Nothing on the story had even been discussed, with the new producer coming in what was gonna happen in that story, and anything could happen. Someone asked on twitter about Carter. So if they don't know at Corrie a few weeks back, not sure the mags do either. Everyone at corrie keeps saying everything is all up in the air and treat everything as rumours. So while it all could happen, I don't trust them much either anymore, and wish they'd just get on with it if they are so we can all move on. But it doesn't seem like any of the rumours are concrete yet either. |
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Hi people,
I hope you are all well? Just thought I'd pop in, seeing as it appears we are slowly beginning to panic over Carter once again. Really? Not already?!! I'm just enjoying not seeing any friction between the two of them in the few glimpses that we've actually seen of them together. And, I shall continue to do so, until we get some concrete evidence, to support the contrary. Admittedly, I've long held some concerns about Peter's unpredictable behaviour. Let's face it, you never can be too sure how Peter might act from one day to another. But, I'm going to take the fact that he did swear on his own son's life, as a genuine declaration that he intends to be true to Carla. Well, at least until TPTB dictate otherwise. ![]() I really don't know what might happen henceforth. Plus, it is pretty likely things will be tentative when the Kylie/Nick baby saga kicks off a few months down the line, and at least when Leanne gets wind of events. Whether that really means that Petanne will reunite is another matter altogether. I know there are whispers out there, that this is indeed what will happen. But, really?...Petanne AGAIN. The love-square?...ENOUGH ALREADY !!! I really don't have the energy to speculate on Petanne v Carter yet again. So, like I've said before, I'm just going to enjoy what little we may get of Carter and see what happens. As for news that Michelle will be taking over the Rovers? Well, that is an entirely different matter. That I can muster the will to add a comment, or three. I just hope if that news is true, it not at the expense of Carchelle. I actually would be quite sad to lose Michelle at the factory, as Carla and Michelle work well, and are great together. But, it will be interesting to see what interesting new dynamics will be at play, in Michelle's absence from the factory (if it's true that is). Will Tracy still be there? Maybe they intend to develop Carla and Rob's relationship? Maybe, just finally, we will get a bit more back-history from Carla and Rob.?But, still,...even if Michelle is no more at the factory,...I want to see continued interactions with Carla and Michelle. Maybe, with Carla popping into the Pub to see Michelle. I suppose if Michelle is running the Pub, it must mean they intend to keep Michelle and Steve an item for the foreseeable. Maybe they intend to marry them off? I love Steve, but I still have my reservations about Steve and Michelle together. I just never thought he was mature enough for Michelle. He really is such a big kid, a joker and pretty flakey a lot of the time. I don't even think that Michelle and Steve have sufficient chemistry. Well, certainly not this time around anyway. I'd be interested to know how Michelle comes to be running the Pub in the first place. I know the Rovers will be burnt down. But, what on earth is going to happen to Stella? This news of a new Landlady doesn't exactly give Stella much to do otherwise, does it? Unless, of course, they are planning to take Stella in a whole other direction. Are we to deduce that Steve buys the Pub back? Hmmm, very curious. I will say that I can see Michelle running the Pub. It's not like it's new territory for her, as she has lived there before, and with Steve. Maybe not running it. But, she was pretty great in the Pub as a bar-girl, back in the day. Now, I think she's grown since then, and can muster up enough authority to do the job proud. So, Michelle does have my vote. That is,....so long as Carla and Michelle remain close,...naturally. ![]() As for Carter, I intend to keep my fingers crossed that just because Leanne is eventually devastated to find out about Kylie and Nick, it doesn't necessarily hold that she will make her way back to Peter. I get the feeling that is what some people want. But, that is certainly NOT me !! ![]() And, there ends my discourse for the time being. That's all folks.
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I think I'm gonna have to write a fic or something to explain all this because it really bugs me how it's just been forgotten about how desperately unhappy and haunted, really, that she was. They came SO close to addressing her PTSD and then just dropped it again. I get that it was a plot device for the whole Petanne thing, but seriously.
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I think it was Eden who said ages ago that she'd like to see Carla unofficially adopt a teenager and I actually think that could work really well. Someone from a similar kind of background to her, who she could mentor to an extent and bring out that caring, loving side to her that she so often hides. I'm still dead against Carla getting pregnant, but a better relationship with Simon and perhaps the teenager thing could be a suitable compromise IMO BIB - Adopting a teenager, or an older child could work too. But, I'd be more interested in Carla making headway with Simon. In fact, I'd be rejoicing. It really bothers me that Simon won't give Carla a chance. And, I hate that TPTB, don't seem to want to address that, or develop their relationship. Because, I really think it is important to continue to show Simon and Carla's interactions. I also think that Carla connecting with Simon will also help portray that softer side of Carla that so easily gets overlooked. And, is often hidden away.
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Totally. I love how Carla is this mixture of designer-clad sophistication and tough estate girl. Unlike Leanne though, she's never tried to pretend to be anything she isn't, never denied her roots or looked down her nose at people. She's openly honest about it all and I think that's what I find so endearing about her. Well, one of the things anyway.
Totally agree with you. It is certainly one of the reasons why I dislike Leanne anyway. Leanne's hypocrisy more to the point. Leanne walks around all snooty, turning her nose up, and judging everyone. Completely ignoring her own background, and the fact that she was practically dragged up herself. Don't get me started on all the "mistakes" that Leanne has made in the past too. You'd never thing so, what with the way St Leanne behaves, and the things she says. Yet, you would never get this sort of hypocritical behaviour from Carla, and yet people are always so quick to judge Carla so harshly. Oh so very annoying !!
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Got to admit, Carla did come across a bit unattractive-desperate at times where Liam was concerned. The way she was stood there at the wedding, all in black, watching Liam and Maria when they were talking outside was a bit... Yeah. And her bitchy comments to Maria about how she knew Liam so much better than she did etc seemed a bit silly at sometimes. It was funny the comments she'd come out with, but it got a bit OTT at times. It's understandable to an extent, but she did go too far I have to admit. Not that Maria was the sweet and innocent little girl she was made out to be, with her comments about how Carla was no longer family etc, but, as much as I'll probably get hate for this, I did feel a bit sorry for her around that time I have to admit. But then, Liam was Carla's one true love, the man she'd loved for years without being able to admit it, and I guess she saw it as the final throw of the dice when she basically begged Liam not to marry Maria.
BIB - Although, I do agree Carla did get quite desperate and reckless over trying to ensnare Liam away from Maria. I still couldn't muster up any sympathy for Maria. Maria was no innocent! She certainly was not in the least bit sweetness and light. And, plus you have to remember how manipulative Maria was too. She loved Liam, or should I say, was totally infatuated with him. So, Maria also went out of her way to keep him by any means necessary. Right from the start, Maria knew deep down that Liam had feelings for Carla. But, Maria did everything in her power to distract Liam from Carla. I mean her behaviour at the hospital after Liam had the climbing accident, was a case in point. I mean, asking Liam to marry her, there and then, whilst Liam was still groggy. And, knowing that she'd lied to Carla about his recovery progress, and where he actually was. Come on? Maria was no more desperate to keep Liam, then Carla was to take Liam away from Maria. Both women were pretty ruthless when it came to loving and wanting Liam for themselves. The only thing that was apparent was that Liam refused to acknowledge his own true feelings for Carla, and ultimately, Carla and Liam were mutually in love with each other.
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I think sometimes Michelle is a spare part in Underworld. She doesn't really have a job anymore, even less so now Rob has bought in. She only really stands in the office commenting to Carla. They can still maintaine there friend ship. It may do Michelle good to have more to do.
Plus they may re start Carla and Hayley's friendship. Carla doesn't really have time cos she's always stuck in the office with Rob and Michelle as the dynamic. But if it's just brother and sister running it, and god knows they need to be developed as siblings, and Hayley in the middle as a bit of calm. That might be nice. I'd like to think Hayley leaving will be the big story when we get into it, and should effect everyone when she leaves who she's close too. And that should include how important she is in Underworld. And if she does become ill, I'd like Carla and Hayley to have more scenes. Then there is where Tracy fits in. If she's staying with Rob, and Carla with Peter, then maybe her and Carla will have more to do together, not at the expense of Michelle, if it is initally, but along side it as a another family member. She hasn't got a lot of friends and neither has Tracy. Does Tracy admire Carla? Does she want to be more like her and work with her, or is it just a Michelle bugging thing? If Michelle leaves fairly quickly. Will Carla feel torn between the two. We'll find all that out. As for Carter I've said my piece. While I don't trust them not to mess with it all again. I'm not worrying when no one knows what is gonna happen. I bet nobody speculating knew anybody but Stella would be in the pub, let alone Steve and Michelle. Even if it is temporary. It's a big change over there. And a big change for Carla not having her day to day support. Will Carla really lose Peter and Michelle? I find that doubtful. Leanne divorced Peter. She married Nick. They didn't just decide how things would go. They got married. It means them getting divorced again and swapping partners. And why Leanne would after what Peter did the last time is beyond me? Chances are the baby will be David's cos they don't want to break him and Kylie up. Jane said she wanted Leanne on her own. And I still don't think Carla would have much to stay in Weatherfield for either sadly. And if it doesn't come out for months it's again months Carla is wasting with Peter. |
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Uni work has impacted upon my presence, but just a comment re the 'odd' filming group in the bistro, I seem to remember Paula Lane posting something about the episodes she was filming this/last week an I got the impression that she was filming the reveal. It would make sense for it to take place in the bistro, so I wonder if those in that eclectic group were background characters in different tidbits of scenes in the bistro but all witnessin the reveal - why Sunita and dr carter are there I don't know, but the amount of people in there makes sense for it to be to me.
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Also holz we sort of spoke about this on twit, but Bastille flaws would be great!!!! If I ever get chance or time, I think requiem for blue jeans would make a great Carla Peter song!
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I know they are filming the fire stunts next week. Antony cotton tweeted that they had a week of night shoots next week for it so he is involved. And Shobna tweeted she had filmed her leaving behind the scenes interview last week 'heavily blooded' so unless those two stories collide and revealed as the fire is happening? It's weird Sunita is in the bistro with those groups and filming the fire stuff at the same time. Unless it's all out of sequence.
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However, I think when Paul died, their feelings towards each other just deepened,...a lot. Which would not have occurred if they didn't have strong feelings for each other to start with. I think they became more subtly aware of it, when Paul died. I also think the feelings that they had, confused them both, which is why they spent so much time in denial. I also think so much of those feelings towards each other were coupled with guilt about having those feelings, because of Paul. Later, there was also confusion that perhaps those feelings were there because they were both still grieving for Paul (at least that is what Liam had convinced himself about Carla), and somehow they needed each other. I think they both tried to convince themselves that somehow, Carla was replacing Paul with Liam, because Carla missed Paul. 
Football disrupting Corrie. It'd better not overrun.
I want so much to believe that when Peter chose Carla over Leanne, he made his final decision. He's been fitting in a lot better with Michelle and Rob lately, and he and Carla have seemed really happy, and now Leanne has quit the bookies, Peter and Leanne have had no on-screen interaction at all to suggest any feelings remain. Last we heard Leanne 'hates' Peter, so I'm hoping (praying) she won't go crawling back yet again. I also hope the new producer can see beyond repeating the love square yet again. Not holding my breath though. That Christmas near-kiss got a hell of a lot of screen time to just be forgotten about so quickly. 

