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Nadine and Nicola - why did they flop
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BG3n1q5KU Cheryl's done amazing. As a major fan of GA,i'm very happy for her her FFTL was incredible, Promise This rocked- i've bought ALL solo members solo music that band rocks. I love 'Beat Of My Drum' the qurkiness, original and different - really sticks out, seems like the type of record Radio 1 would play but because it's her they choose not to. I still cannot get over what an amazing record 'Insaitable' is from Nadine. It was rock/pop, so sing songy catchy and abit of a belter, suits her to a T. What a great performance above there, especially the second half she really stormed it there just a pity the show doesnt get that many viewers to make enough of a impact. Nicola deserves success also, she really promoted that single and yes it did better in overall sales than Nadine. I think her album was very good also. It's a shame Nadine or Nicola for that matter who both had terific debut singles and albums haven't set the charts alight. this must be a stigma of them being from Girls Aloud. Cheryl has sold amazingly, being from the same band. She's even tweeted to promote Nicola's stuff sometimes to her 1.8 million followers. The comparison is shocking! coming from the same band, i know she's everyone's fave but why did so few buy the Nadine and Nicola releases, not even 100k like flop acts that get dropped. Just 10k, i mean Girls aloud concert had 300k people there, did only 10k like Nicola for example. Nadine's Insatiable single did 22k Nadine's album done 10k Nicola's Beat Of My Drum done 50k Nicola's album done 13k Cheryls debut done 980k Cheryls albums sold 900k & 400k. I'm stunned they didnt do that well, they did come out with some good stuff and really went with it with the promo, i just dont understand why radio didn't play them and people didn't buy the records. Makes no sense to me, those records where promoted. Why didn't X Factor or something let them on to perform when the Wanted who also in their debut year where on twice. Why didnt radio play them.. |
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Cheryl had x factor backing her... Anyone associated with the programme seems to do well. The others don't get the same airtime that she does, credit to them for remaining on good terms with her... I know if it was me, I'd feel slightly bitter that the weakest singer of the grop turned out to have he most successful career out of the five of them. I think she's out of x factor at the right time aswell, she's grown a fan base big enough to keep going... And will probably make an attempt on the states if her management are desperate enough.
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Nadine didn't promote much. Her music couldn't even be brought on ITUNES due to her Tesco deal. That screwed her over.
Nicola, her music didn't gel. But her album wasn't so bad and shockingly not so generic. The singles failed her personally. |
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Because Fight For This Love is more commercial. It's the best song out of the three, followed by Beat Of My Drum then Insatiable.
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Not to mention Cheryl had the big names writing her music... Not sure who Nadine or Nicola had. Quite sad and shallow the way the industry works.
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Nadine didn't promote much. Her music couldn't even be brought on ITUNES due to her Tesco deal. That screwed her over.
Nicola, her music didn't gel. But her album wasn't so bad and shockingly not so generic. The singles failed her personally. http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/ins...ep/id397141893 |
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In theory BOMD should have done well but it didn't because the video was rubbish, the label skimped on her budget and Nicola is not really a strong live performer...
Nadine's whole solo career was a joke. Her album was very good, but the Tesco deal must have been humiliating for her and the Nadine 2.0 saga and her weird appearance in some American gay bar which she called 'cracking the US' was just embarrassing and bizarre. Cheryl was clever enough to sign to a label that gave her a big budget, and her debut wasn't so bad...it was her second album that was the travesty, but in terms of debuts, Cheryl did everything right. Plus she'd made it big on the X Factor which pretty much sealed the deal. Kimberley never had a chance at a solo career...her feature with Aggro Santos was dire. As for Sarah, I think she could have established herself as a dance music diva which would have been perfect considering it's breakthrough in the UK, but Rita Ora has taken that spot now...plus Sarah can't sing either... |
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I was shocked Nicola flopped. I can't fault her debut in any way. It's a great flowing album. The writing is excellent. The production is flawless. Everything about it was great. Sadly, I don't think the general public really warmed to her. They probably just seen her as "the ginger one from Girls Aloud". I'm pretty sure if BOMD was by someone else it'd have been a smash.
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I remember Nicola's first single being On Air On Sale, which is what I think attributed to the low position. She was top 10 in the first set of midweeks and then plummeted shortly after.
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I personally don't class Nicola as a flop, and I don't particularly like the term in general. Nicola enjoyed the process and made a brilliant pop album, how is that not a success? I never got the impression that Nicola ever cared that much about sales and surely her label weren't expecting much from her anyway? I didn't even know her name until the album was released, I just knew her as "the ginger one from Girls Aloud who never really sings" and I think that is the case with most of the general public tbh.
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In Nicola's favour is that her album was a major critical success, voted as one of the albums of the year in many lists.
That gives her a credibility that none of the other GA's have. It suggests that Nicola was/is the most talented of GA. |
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Nicola is a very competent live performer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KCtPhViBmI
Nicola's material just wasn't mainstream enough for major success. It's a great album though. She should be proud. |
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I don't think Nadine or Nicola could connect with the public. They came across as a little unfriendly or unapproachable. They worked well in a group because they all seemed like genuine friends, but as standalones they struggled.
Cheryl had the factor or being in people's living rooms every Saturday night, so people could warm to her. She was the nation's sweetheart at the time of her solo launch. Nadine always came across as a bit annoying. Her accent (which is shockingly close to mine, so I can be forgiven for saying this) is incredibly grating. Her ambition and determination to succeed is written all over her face. The fact that she associated herself with America more than the UK and Ireland didn't help her either. Nicola... she had a great album, a USP, public interest pre-BOMD release... but her promotional efforts basically reminded everyone that she was very quiet, and dry, and hard to warm to as an individual. I remember watching her interview Lady Gaga, and it was cringeworthy. It felt like Lady Gaga was walking her through it. The BOMD video as well made her look a bit clunky and awkward. I don't understand what happened with Lucky Day though, because she came across well in the song and video. Basically, Nadine and Nicola didn't have the likability factor (No, I'm not Louis Walsh) behind them as solo artists, Cheryl did. |
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It was done to the songs essentially. Cheryl had all the catchy tunes - Fight For This Love and Promise This were just so infectious.
Nadine's single I only heard on the POG show and it just didn't grab me and Nicola singles were annoying. I did like her Sticks and Stones and felt that should have been the lead single. |
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I don't think Nadine or Nicola could connect with the public. They came across as a little unfriendly or unapproachable. They worked well in a group because they all seemed like genuine friends, but as standalones they struggled.
Cheryl had the factor or being in people's living rooms every Saturday night, so people could warm to her. She was the nation's sweetheart at the time of her solo launch. Nadine always came across as a bit annoying. Her accent (which is shockingly close to mine, so I can be forgiven for saying this) is incredibly grating. Her ambition and determination to succeed is written all over her face. The fact that she associated herself with America more than the UK and Ireland didn't help her either. Nicola... she had a great album, a USP, public interest pre-BOMD release... but her promotional efforts basically reminded everyone that she was very quiet, and dry, and hard to warm to as an individual. I remember watching her interview Lady Gaga, and it was cringeworthy. It felt like Lady Gaga was walking her through it. The BOMD video as well made her look a bit clunky and awkward. I don't understand what happened with Lucky Day though, because she came across well in the song and video. Basically, Nadine and Nicola didn't have the likability factor (No, I'm not Louis Walsh) behind them as solo artists, Cheryl did. Cole is the weakest singer from Girls Aloud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHqNzFxopA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCmmZSECgnA ...but she had the face, the publicity from private life (high profile marraige, assaulting a woman, being a nasty person)... that got her in the papers, became the best known...and in the UK bad publicity is good publicity. |
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Cheryl had a really high profile through her "WAG" status before 3 Words came out. She was always in the papers...people knew her more. I don't ever remember seeing the others being reported as much. I think that was a huge contributing factor to her success.
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Because they're terrible, maybe...
But then again so is Cheryl's music and somehow she's done pretty well so far. I'm guessing the lead single from her next album will be performed on X Factor again :yawn: (Not that I watch that pile of ****) |
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Because they're terrible, maybe...
But then again so is Cheryl's music and somehow she's done pretty well so far. I'm guessing the lead single from her next album will be performed on X Factor again :yawn: (Not that I watch that pile of ****) |
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likeability? warm to her?. Cheryl Cole is a cow, was charged with assault, so likeability was hardly a factor. The reason she was pushed as the face of Girls Aloud was due to 1.her looks, and 2.the publicity from her private life (I see Harry Styles similarly is being pushed as the face of One Direction.. his looks, and publicity generated from Caroline Flack). She then got X factor gig which gave her more exposure in the UK, and the best tunes written for her. She was never likeable, her personality is rotten.
Cole is the weakest singer from Girls Aloud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHqNzFxopA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCmmZSECgnA ...but she had the face, the publicity from private life (high profile marraige, assaulting a woman, being a nasty person)... that got her in the papers, became the best known...and in the UK bad publicity is good publicity. I don't see why you're calling her a nasty person, she got in a fight on a night out in a club, it happens quite frequently. She apologised, did her community service, and hasn't been charged with anything since. It isn't a defining part of her. |
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Without FFTL Tweedy's singles would have been top ten-twenty. Nicola's "Beat My Drum" did quite well, but she's known for fashion more than anything else and Nadine didn't flop, if she wanted to, she could release a second solo album.
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Without FFTL Tweedy's singles would have been top ten-twenty. Nicola's "Beat My Drum" did quite well, but she's known for fashion more than anything else and Nadine didn't flop, if she wanted to, she could release a second solo album.
Would it be a success?........................unlikely. |
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without a doubt Nadine and Nicole made better, more credible music. However...
Nadine[LIST][*]didn't sell her album on iTunes, Amazon, HMV etc .... only selling in physical form in Tescos[*]had horrible treatment from the press, Heat magazine etc always making up rumours about her[*]released through her own independent label, which is hard to generate radio airplay because the big labels hold so much power[*]was always compared to Cheryl as they were releasing at the same time, and Cheryl had X Factor and Simon Cowell[/LIST] Nicola[LIST][*]didn't present herself and her music commercially[*]is just a shy and sometimes defensive person - understandable considering the flack she has taken[*]did not get much radio support[/LIST] when people say they don't like Nadine's music, I think fair enough. music is all about taste. but I hate when people say she's stuck up, or not nice, etc. Nadine is the nicest member of the band, she is so fan friendly, she has given fans lifts in her car before, and is so funny!! watch videos of her on youtube meeting fans, and doing interviews. she is hilarious, and sweet. just because she avoids the reality show side of things like Ghosthunting and Passions people didn't get to see the real her. and people judge her so much on "things she said" - yeh when these things appear in Heat magazine (Cheryl Cole propeganda pages as I call it) and The Sun (omg their showbiz editor could not be further up Cheryls a**e). Funny how these things are never said by her live on tv! All the long-time hardcore GA fans who've met the band and follow them all know that Nadine is the nicest. The GA dancers from their tours etc always comment how lovely she is. |
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Without FFTL Tweedy's singles would have been top ten-twenty. Nicola's "Beat My Drum" did quite well, but she's known for fashion more than anything else and Nadine didn't flop, if she wanted to, she could release a second solo album.
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The next time she goes solo Tesco's has to be off the list, but Nadine should really try to sign with an American label.
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she could, but unless she does it with iTunes, Amazon, HMV, etc, it won't do any better than Insatiable. The only reason it didn't sell was because it sold through Tesco who only make up 5% of the music market (source: http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?s...§ioncode=1). So when you're music isn't available to 95% of the music buyers, you're not in a good position!!
Nicola's singles should have been hits. She is like a grown up Cher Lloyd. Maybe the public didn't connect with her. Lucky Day should have done well. |
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