Why did they pitch a bathroom product to Lakeland a kitchenware seller? Surely that was a major disadvantage?
Why did they pitch to Lakeland?
Originally Posted by jlighthi:
“Why did they pitch a bathroom product to Lakeland a kitchenware seller? Surely that was a major disadvantage?”
“Why did they pitch a bathroom product to Lakeland a kitchenware seller? Surely that was a major disadvantage?”
No , Lakeland sells bathroom products as well as kitchen.
Originally Posted by fredster:
“No , Lakeland sells bathroom products as well as kitchen.”
“No , Lakeland sells bathroom products as well as kitchen.”
Not many. They are principally a kitchenware company.
Originally Posted by jlighthi:
“Not many. They are principally a kitchenware company.”
“Not many. They are principally a kitchenware company.”
If you look at their catalogues then they also dogeneral household cleaning equipment, bathroom wares, storage products, food products, and now have a new garden catalogue. They have expanded hugely over the last few years.
They sell far more kitchen stuff than bathroom stuff though so I did think that was a bit unfair on the womens team.
Originally Posted by lazyjane:
“They sell far more kitchen stuff than bathroom stuff though so I did think that was a bit unfair on the womens team.”
“They sell far more kitchen stuff than bathroom stuff though so I did think that was a bit unfair on the womens team.”
Presumably they were told who they'd be pitching to at the start of the task, so the women's team only have themselves to blame for going down the bathroom route.
Originally Posted by fishingjack:
“Presumably they were told who they'd be pitching to at the start of the task, so the women's team only have themselves to blame for going down the bathroom route.”
“Presumably they were told who they'd be pitching to at the start of the task, so the women's team only have themselves to blame for going down the bathroom route.”
On YF Maria was asked why they chose a bathroom project and she said they didn't choose it; the boys' team got kitchen so they had to do bathroom. One of the small but significant details that the programme fails to show!
Originally Posted by fishingjack:
“Presumably they were told who they'd be pitching to at the start of the task, so the women's team only have themselves to blame for going down the bathroom route.”
“Presumably they were told who they'd be pitching to at the start of the task, so the women's team only have themselves to blame for going down the bathroom route.”
Maybe not. I wouldn't put it past the producers to deliberately keep the candidates in the dark to increase the chance of comedy fail material.
It doesn't matter who they pitched to, the orders will not materialise. The retailers were chosen because of their knowledge of the market and ordered based on the quality of the product and the pitch, not on how many they thought they'd sell.
Originally Posted by Reggie Rebel:
“It doesn't matter who they pitched to, the orders will not materialise. The retailers were chosen because of their knowledge of the market and ordered based on the quality of the product and the pitch, not on how many they thought they'd sell.”
“It doesn't matter who they pitched to, the orders will not materialise. The retailers were chosen because of their knowledge of the market and ordered based on the quality of the product and the pitch, not on how many they thought they'd sell.”
But a retailer that specialises in kitchen equipment looking at a bathroom product - just seems wrong. And if the women had to choose a bathroom product no wonder they did not come up with anything sensible. Don't get me wrong - the ladies team deserved to lose for many reasons but there is something horribly unjust about this episode. Also to note that the men's product was not popular with Amazon. The girls did much better with them. It was Lakeland that won it for the guys don't forget.
Lakeland might take a few bathroom products but nothing like Splish Splash, they should have allowed to pitch too that French baby shop or Mothercare. I suppose they kept it the same so nobody could say that with different companies it wasn't a fair playing field
Originally Posted by alixfowler:
“Lakeland might take a few bathroom products but nothing like Splish Splash, they should have allowed to pitch too that French baby shop or Mothercare. I suppose they kept it the same so nobody could say that with different companies it wasn't a fair playing field”
“Lakeland might take a few bathroom products but nothing like Splish Splash, they should have allowed to pitch too that French baby shop or Mothercare. I suppose they kept it the same so nobody could say that with different companies it wasn't a fair playing field”
I think that's where LS thought the girls went wrong, which was inventing a toy rather than a homeware gadget which Lakeland would still have been interested in.
Originally Posted by jlighthi:
“And if the women had to choose a bathroom product no wonder they did not come up with anything sensible.”
“And if the women had to choose a bathroom product no wonder they did not come up with anything sensible.”
Maria implied it was because they were too slow. It sounded like they both had equal choice, but only that team that chose first got what they wanted.
They are usually told who the retailers are, and expected to figure out which of them is more important and tailor their product to that retailer. On this occasion both retailers seemed capable of big orders. Usually there are three of them, and one of them is so small as to be a distraction.
Originally Posted by Helena Handcart:
“On YF Maria was asked why they chose a bathroom project and she said they didn't choose it; the boys' team got kitchen so they had to do bathroom. One of the small but significant details that the programme fails to show!”
“On YF Maria was asked why they chose a bathroom project and she said they didn't choose it; the boys' team got kitchen so they had to do bathroom. One of the small but significant details that the programme fails to show!”
It doesn't matter. The idea is that you should be able to adapt to anything well enough to provide ideas for anything in any time anywhere, and to have the ability to take the chosen idea to the end and sell it well.
It's very easy for me to say now, but I think the good ones would break a room down into elements and work from there.
For ex: Bathroom - cleanliness, health, safety, beauty (skin, hair and more), demographics (men, women, children, elderly and people with disabilities, and any age groups from newborn to 95), usage & design (space, productivity, functionality) and sensory (sight, touch, sound, taste and smell).
A group could work out which of these elements has the biggest gap and work from there. I think a good group could do that with anything - tiny garden, box room under the stairs, hallway, garage and more.
Originally Posted by Takae:
“It doesn't matter. The idea is that you should be able to adapt to anything well enough to provide ideas for anything in any time anywhere, and to have the ability to take the chosen idea to the end and sell it well.”
“It doesn't matter. The idea is that you should be able to adapt to anything well enough to provide ideas for anything in any time anywhere, and to have the ability to take the chosen idea to the end and sell it well.”
It does matter because the edit gave the impression that the girls had chosen bathroom when, in fact, they were told to design a bathroom gadget. Yes, they should have been able to come up with a viable product (in fact, there are plenty of 'tap cosies' on amazon.com) but that doesn't change the fact that the edit was misleading.
Sorry to be so late to the party but only caught up last night.
Thanks for this thread as it answers what I came on to post. Don't watch YF so didnt see the explanation that the boys "got kitchen" - this is something I figured out had to be the case, since among the candidates one would have known kitchen was infintely more suited to kitchen gadgets.
It didnt stop me from initially thinking how dim the girls were though, and imo it was critical to why they lost the task. I'm no fan of 'the girls' but I definitely don't see why they don't tell us about the choices or decisions that are made for them -or the toss of the coin or whatever.
There are usually a few examples per series - eg magazines - one gets lads mag market other gets retired people; pet food - one gets cats other gets dogs; last week - one gets london eye, one gets relatively quiet market and zoo...
Actually, having now written my post and immediately thought of those examples they don't tell us cos its actually glaringly obvious
Thanks for this thread as it answers what I came on to post. Don't watch YF so didnt see the explanation that the boys "got kitchen" - this is something I figured out had to be the case, since among the candidates one would have known kitchen was infintely more suited to kitchen gadgets.
It didnt stop me from initially thinking how dim the girls were though, and imo it was critical to why they lost the task. I'm no fan of 'the girls' but I definitely don't see why they don't tell us about the choices or decisions that are made for them -or the toss of the coin or whatever.
There are usually a few examples per series - eg magazines - one gets lads mag market other gets retired people; pet food - one gets cats other gets dogs; last week - one gets london eye, one gets relatively quiet market and zoo...
Actually, having now written my post and immediately thought of those examples they don't tell us cos its actually glaringly obvious
