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Old 30-03-2012, 16:37
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I was watching Most Evil earlier and it was about Cult followers. It concentrated on the main ones such as The Manson Family and Jonestown. I would assume some exist, think I've heard of one called 'The Family', but are they on a lesser scale and less dangerous? Do you think we're ever going to have anything like a Jonestown or Waco disaster again?
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Old 30-03-2012, 16:38
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Yes.

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Old 30-03-2012, 16:40
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As Scientology is still going, yes.
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Old 30-03-2012, 16:44
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Scientology, the Family, there are still some Aum Shinrikyo kicking about, the Raelians, I think the SES are still going...

...there are tons of the buggers.
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Old 30-03-2012, 16:56
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Are any of them dangerous though?
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Old 30-03-2012, 16:57
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Are any of them dangerous though?
At the risk of repeating myself-

Scientology, the Family, there are still some Aum Shinrikyo kicking about, the Raelians, I think the SES are still going...

To be fair, though, I think the Raelians are fairly harmless. When I used to work for *major comics retailer* in the 90s we had a stall at the Fortean Times UnConvention- one year we were sandwiched in between the Church of the SubGenius and the Raelians.

The SubGenius were definitely more fun, and the Raelians weirder, but I don't think they tend to make a habit of f*cking with people's lives as much as many others.
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Old 30-03-2012, 16:58
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Are any of them dangerous though?
Islam can be
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:00
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Are any of them dangerous though?
Most of them are dangerous to your wallet.

Although I wouldn't see any of the big cults we have today as martyristic (hmm I may have made that word up ), I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility that there will be some in the future.
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:01
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Yeah, I work for one. Oh, sorry, you said cults.
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:03
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Christianity etc were referred to as cults when they began

they got power and control and influence unfortunately
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:04
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Most of them are dangerous to your wallet.

Although I wouldn't see any of the big cults we have today as martyristic (hmm I may have made that word up ), I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility that there will be some in the future.
It's usually the more eschatological cults that are prone to mass suicides and the like- because something like Scientology doesn't preach an afterlife, or have an apocalypse story, it's unlikely that kind of thing would ever be an issue.

Doesn't stop 'em being dangerous, though- (again, using CoS as an example) Google Lisa McPherson, or Operation Snow White. Or Shawn Lonsdale.
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:05
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Remeber the cult in Brookside
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:10
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the westboro baptist church are a cult. - I hate them, they are nasty evil people
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:11
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the westboro baptist church are a cult. - I hate them, they are nasty evil people
Finally we agree on something.
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:13
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It's usually the more eschatological cults that are prone to mass suicides and the like- because something like Scientology doesn't preach an afterlife, or have an apocalypse story, it's unlikely that kind of thing would ever be an issue.

Doesn't stop 'em being dangerous, though- (again, using CoS as an example) Google Lisa McPherson, or Operation Snow White. Or Shawn Lonsdale.
Yeah I'm well aware of CoS, their methods and endless bollox. Do they still have to do boat duty? I'm sure thems were good times (for Hubbard).
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:14
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Yeah I'm well aware of CoS, their methods and endless bollox. Do they still have to do boat duty? I'm sure thems were good times (for Hubbard).
Yeah, the Sea Org is still going strong, I'm afraid
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:14
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Yeah I'm well aware of CoS, their methods and endless bollox. Do they still have to do boat duty? I'm sure thems were good times (for Hubbard).
I think so, though I know the Freewinds got busted for being full of asbestos about three years back... not sure what the upshot of that was, but the Sea Org definitely still exists.
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:20
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Yeah, the Sea Org is still going strong, I'm afraid
I think so, though I know the Freewinds got busted for being full of asbestos about three years back... not sure what the upshot of that was, but the Sea Org definitely still exists.
Pfft, I'd love to be cynical and say you reap what you sow, but all I think of when I hear about that is John Denver singing Calypso. So another reason to hate it.
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:23
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Scientology is not a cult though it's a proper religion!
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:28
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Scientology is not a cult though it's a proper religion!
Sure it is...
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Old 30-03-2012, 17:29
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Scientology is not a cult though it's a proper religion!
Scientology is a proper religion in the same way that Battlefield Earth is a decent novel.
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Old 30-03-2012, 18:11
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I tend to think of scientology, the FLDS, and some similar sects as cults. Most religious groups are not cults, but there are a few, like the FLDS, who have a lot of cult-like aspects about them.
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Old 30-03-2012, 18:14
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All religions fall under the description of a cult. That's why they're all so bloody dangerous.
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Old 30-03-2012, 18:15
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Scientology is not a cult though it's a proper religion!
Made up by a science fiction writer.
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Old 30-03-2012, 18:16
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Christianity etc were referred to as cults when they began

they got power and control and influence unfortunately
Christianity as a whole is not a cult. Certain groups may be. Unfortunately sometimes evil people use religion to control other people. However, most Christian churches don't really have many cultlike qualities. Cults are usually closed societies and control every aspect of a person's life. Most Christian churches are not that way.
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