Who do you think's going to get it?

I don't think Jessica, Joshua or Colton will need it.

I don't think Deandre would get it if he did.

I would hope that it wouldn't go to Elise, Phillip or Skylar, but I think it will be one of them who gets it. I don't think any of those 3 deserve to be there at this stage.

Hollie may be the dark horse for getting the save - she's good but obbviously not infallible.

I wouldn't have a save left as Erika wouldn't even have needed to give a second performance before I said yes - though I enjoyed the one she gave! Her NYSOM was fab and should never have got her eliminated.

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I think either Hollie or Elise will end up getting the save, though I think at this point, the only one who I think that wouldn't be saved is Deandre.

I wouldn't be so sure about Joshua (he's great, I mean the votes). Same for Deandre but the other way round.


I think Elise and Philip deserve to be there more than the rest of contestants


(If I'm not mistaken) there are only 3 weeks left which judges can use their save. I don't think there's anyone with chance of not getting saved, and all of them might get it when finished at the bottom next week.
What I like though is I don't want Deandre or Skylar be saved .

Joshua is popular, he was probably 6th from bottom in week 1 when he was in the bottom 3 boys. I love Erika but she appeared in the bottom 3 every week, while Joshua hasn't since.

Deandre was a wildcard but has obviously developed a fanbase. I don't mind him but don't think the judges would bother saving him.

To me, Phillip and Colton are similar but Colton puts more energy into his performance and therefore has the edge. Elise can sing, though I think the cracks in her voice when she goes for something outside of her range are often mistaken for emotion which may play a part but isn't the full story.

I think Elise or Phillip may get the save, but I would rather it were used on Joshua or Hollie if they need it now.

No one who won the save ever went on to win the show, so far they've all been men, including one wildcard, which means we can't rule out Deandre. Funnily enough, I've had 2 wildcard favourites in the past 2 years and would have used the save on both of them

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I'm not sure about Deandre. He's very much Steven's choice, and Randy thinks he's very commercial. It all comes down to J.Lo, who hasn't expressed being moved by him, which seems to be her instinctive 'goosies' approach to all things Idol. Same split might happen with Elise - Steven loves her, and Randy's not far behind. A majority vote might carry them both through, or do all 3 have to agree?

I'd agree that Joshua, Jessica and Phillip are their top must saves - all 3 judges would unanimously agree to save them.
Colton not far behind, but by no means certain.

They wouldn't save Hollie IMO. And clearly she's not that well liked with the US voters, coming second from bottom the very week she was supposed to have finally connected with a song, so if she found herself with the lowest vote I can't see them flogging that particular dead horse.

They wouldn't save Skylar, none of them strike me as being really into her, despite making most of the right judging noises.

Not sure how loyal Steven will remain to Deandre...Randy picked Erika as his wildcard and seemed happy to see the back of her (unlike me!) - even though her performance was unanimously loved by the judges.

I wouldn't have been surprised if JLo had wanted to save Heejun tonight - the others wouldn't have stood for it, but she seemed to have a weird fixation with him.

Bloody hope they don't save Skylar, can't stand her voice! I think if anyone was to fight for her, it'd be JLo again.

Do you reckon they'd save the save in case Jessica needed it? I reckon she'd be their No1 contestant, but how likely is she to need it? Not very IMO - could be that they leave it until the last minute and then use it on whoever comes bottom out of the Top 6 though, just in case Jessica does come a cropper.

Also how long can both Phillip and Colton continue in the same competition before they start to cancel each other out?

I can't see the judges saving Hollie, and wouldn't be too devastated not to do so myself, but I either see the others as safe enough, or don't think they deserve to be there. I would have used the save already anyway. I know it would've been early, but still a week later than last year

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I'm not a fan of Deandre nor the falsetto overuse, he goes I'll be happy.

Beside being considered and rockers I don't see any similarity between Philip and Colton. I kinda like them both. I think Philip has been one of the most - if not the most - contestants and always doing a great job. my problem with him is he always sounds the same. Colton on the other hand, everytime I say he'll rock it next time and I'll be impressed, everytime I hear a lot of praises after the performances, how awesome he was and everytime I find his performance hardly average and always pitchy. I think he's the most popular though. At least he has the most followers on twitter compared to the rest compared to Joshua's least. But in case of finishing at the bottom for any of these 3 I'm sure judges will use the save, but I doubt Phillip and Colton will and I take your word about Joshua.

About Elise, I've never considered her performances very emotional and I don't think I've ever noticed any emotion at extent that it might have affected her voice. Nor I get the crack thing which apparently is the real thing happening to her voice and I'm not getting it. Do you mind pointing me to a performance of hers where these happen? I might still be biased and find emotion or any other excuse, though at least I'll know what are these cracks you're talking about ... thanks.

Wouldn't say Phillip and Colton are by any means but they're more similar to each other than to Johua or Deandre, or any of the girls.

Colton and Phillip do both fit into the WGWG mould which is now very popular on AI and has been responsible for 3 of the past 4 winners. I find Phillip more samey than Colton, but for me Colton hasn't shown the musicality of someone like David Cook. (Neither has ErIka, nor did Jordin Sparks or Stefano who I love but that wasn't their selling point on their show.)

Re: Elise, similarly to Phillip and Colton there were comparisons between her and Erika. Elise and Erika were roommates and are friends so there's no need for me as an Erika fan to have anything personal against Elise, but strategically it would have suited me to see Elise leave as presumably then Erika would have had the pimp slot and attention from the judges.

Erika's no longer in the competition, but she wasn't the only reason I'm not sold on Elise. The main song in which I detected the cracks where the judges thought the performance was emotional was the Adele song, The One and Only, from the Top 12 Girls show.

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I don't like Adele and don't like so many Adele covers on AI either. I thought it was her worst performance (although judges seemed to like it a lot!). She said she got emotional and cracked a little bit, which for me it meant she was pitchy which she was and also couldn't control the vibes properly. At that stage though Elise wasn't my favorite, it was Jen Hirsh which happened to be covering the same song at the same night

I see the similarity between Erika & Elise and I liked Erika. Though after using the save early last season. (It was for Casey which was one of my favorites) and then Pia (the 100X better version of Hollie ) getting eliminated in the top 9 round IIRC, I think that judges have been more cautious this season about using the save.

I actually liked Jen Hirsh as well, she was one of my early favourites. I didn't think Erika found herself until NYSOM though I always felt she had a performance like that in her. Jen should have gone through instead of Skylar for sure. I think Elise singing the same song with so much praise from the judges and the pimp slot wrecked Jen's chances really.

Adele has a good voice but she is extremely overdone on these shows. At least Eben's male interpretation was a bit different.

I'm sure Elise was emotional then and is every week, all the contestants are - it just sounded to me like it affected her voice more than most of the others.

I think Phillip and Colton have more in common than Elise and Erika, but if Elise and Erika decided to perform together as they may well do on tour, they would complement each other well. I disliked Heejun's voice and I dislike Skylar's voice (and her deer hunting.) Elise can sing, and just needs to be careful about her song choices, which was also true of Erika and is always true of any contestant. I haven't seen a performance I've enjoyed as much as NYSOM this season though.

The judges shouldn't have saved Casey last year, nor Pia - it should have been my Stefano! Why do I always have to love wildcards?

Pia is kind of similar to Hollie, though better. Hollie should sing an uptempo song this week as long as Skylar gets something even more damning

Knowing the judges, they'll waste their save on someone who would never have won and will finish middle of the pack - just because they fancy a bit of drama that week.

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I don't think they will use their Save at all. If a contestant doesn't have enough votes to avoid being at the bottom in one week, they are extremely unlikely to actually win the competition.

It would in my view be more relevant to have a sing-off between the bottom two, then at least their final song will mean something. At the moment the final song is just a ruse to give the judges more time to discuss whether to save someone, the final performance is not judged.

I accept of course that the best thing to do is just to rely on the votes and not give the judges any power at all, but they need to fill the hour somehow!

I really hope Elise doesn't get it would be such a waste although it looks like they are saving it for her as they are determined to shove Elise down the everyone's throtes

Does seem that way, not only did she get the pimp slot this week but she got it on Top 12 Girls' night, who knows if she'd even have made it through without it? (Well, she would probably have had Erika's wildcard slot so it'd depend who got the pimp spot instead of her!)

She does seem like the most realistic candidate to both get it and actually need it.

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I actually think that Elise's fanbase is growing, through a combination of consistant good perfomances and the insane over-pimping from the judges. I really like her, but it is getting a bit silly how much she's being praised now! I think Elise might actually miss the save alltogether - I could see her avoiding being bottom for another few weeks, but then being eliminated a week or two after someone is saved.

In any case, I think the judges are being extremely careful with their save after using it so easily last year, using it to save someone they liked (Casey) and then not being able to help someone they loved two weeks later (Pia)

I think they're bigging Elise up so much because traditionally on AI female singers like her don't do very well and they def like her and obviously want to keep her in as long as possible.

Funny when Pia got eliminated it was her and Stefano, I didn't expect it to be Pia to leave ... not many did I guess, nor did Stefano himself. Stefano last season was similar to Heejun this season. Well he wasn't a clown, but he wasn't as good as the rest of contestants IMO.

Maybe if someone who has finished at the bottom once, is not going to win it. but the save is about giving them another chance. And I think Casey well deserved the save and so was Pia if they hadn't already used it. Stefano?, a 100% no for me.

Casey was my favourite last year and I was glad they saved him - remember him going into shock He survived for several weeks after that

I think they would definately save Joshua, Colton, Phillip or Jessica - the rest, I'm not sure about

The longer they keep the save the more dangerous the Double Elimination will be the week after. I think the latest they ever kept it was Season 8, when they waited until Top 7 to save Matt (Anoop and Lil were subsuquently ousted the following week).

It's unlikely there will be a double elimination this year, because of Shannon being eliminated the same week as Jermaine was sent home. The numbers won't work if there's a double elimination, so they'll probably just send one home.

In that case judges have to use the save or the numbers won't work either?

I think they will most likely use the save on any of the singers left in this week who are up for elimination. The obviously slightly weaker singers have all gone now; the only one who might not benefit from it is Deandre, I really don't think he's the finished article.

FWIW I disagree with some of the earlier posts and think they've held back so far because hey learned from last year when they saved the frankly very average (and uncommercial)Casey and lost the far superior Pia as an unwanted consequence

I think they'd almost certainly use it on either Joshua, Jessica, Philip or Skylar if they were last. Colton and Elise I'd say they might do. I dn't think they'd use it on Deandra, and sadly I don't think they'd use it on Hollie either.

Stefano's probably more of a Deandre than a Heejun, though I prefer S to Deandre. Stefano did not win his place in the top 13 based on personality as Heejun did even when vocally he wasn't clowning around. His last performance wasn't his best but I think the savee could 100% have been justified for him if he'd needed it after Tiny Dancer. Based on voice, he was well ahead of Casey.

I am more shocked that they didn't save Erika than Stefano though, as this to me is a much weaker season with no obvious winner. They made the wrong decision championing Elise and shafting Erika because had they backed her (and chosen suitable themes) Erika could have been a much more current artist than Elise, in the vein of Pink and Katy Perry. I was so sad to see her go when she had IMO finally made her mark on the competition. The one night she performed later on in the show, they shoved the Jermaine drama on directly after her performance. They should've announced it at the beginning of the show and left the remaining contestants who hadn't broken the law to get on with it.

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Neither were a shock to me.


There were 10 contestant, Erika ended up in bottom 3 like she did the week before that and the week before that in bottom 3 girls and the week before that wildcard. Should the judges save her? I'd liked if they did but that wouldn't be a reasonable decision IMO. Now who are they that made the wrong decision and what's the role of Elise in there I still don't know. If you mean judges by them I don't see their role in Erika's elimination either, but just not saving her which sounds totally reasonable to me. She never got the votes blame it on whatever pleases you.


Maybe, or maybe not, not sure about the point you're making here though.


which both are the same crap to me, but I get that you probably value Pink over Katy Perry as you value Erika over Elise to be more of your taste. I'd prefer Elise to Erika any day and I don't think Erika has been a victim in this competition in any way. She deserved to be in the competition more than a few contestants and so last a few more weeks and that's just it.


She wasn't my favorite, so to be honest I already don't remember much of her.


I don't think you mean it was intentional and part of a plot to get Erika eliminated? I don't think it would've made much of a difference for her.

I think it would have done, obviously not to you but I thought that was the point of expressing opinions. The way that you express yours seems a little aggressive to me.

Don't forget that Elise wasn't getting the votes either until the producers started to ram her down our throats, and Heejun was until Jimmy, Steven and Tommy turned against him. The producers control what the viewers see and when, which will have an impact on how they vote. I'm surprised you didn't use the old chestnut "If you liked Erika so much then why didn't you vote for her?" Obviously I would've done if I lived in America. I was still expecting to see it in your message though, as you don't seem very keen on Erika and her fans. I'm not keen on Elise (even less so on Skylar) but I don't hold it against their fans, nor against them personally that I don't like their voices.

Whatever you think of Pink and Katy Perry, they're very successful at the moment and do write their own songs and sing live.

I don't think it was just Erika that Jermaine's VT could have affected, but it would've been just as easy for it to be shown at the beginning of the show, before anyone performed.