I have a nagging feeling that Elise is the one who will be saved - and she would certainly deserve it given the stunning performances she's put in the past few weeks. It just must have taken America a while to warm to her. I hope it doesn't come to her needing saved though.

I didn't see the need to save either Shannon, Erika, Heejun or Jeremy - all nice enough people with decent voices but I personally never saw any as a contender in the competition, and found it hard to place them in today's music market whereas most of the others have their niche and their genres down.

Of course that's the point of expressing opinions. You think it would've made a difference, I don't agree with you. It never meant to sound aggressive. Apologies if it did.


I disagree. How did producers do that? And why would producers ram her down our throats?


True. but they get paid to express their opinions there. It happened to be against Heejun and I think that was the right thing to do. (it was very funny though when Tommy asked Heejun about his fashion idol and he said Jessica Sanchez )


I totally agree.


I don't know why you expected me to ask that question.
<---- I don't live in the US myself (even if I was I'm not 100% sure whether I would've voted!)


Of course they are successful, they're just not of my personal liking. I find most of the successful singers/bands crap ... guilty as charged.


I think they shouldn't have aired it at all. Though they wanted to make it a show to boost their rating I guess.

Sorry if I took it the wrong way too, I do have trouble interpreting things sometimes

I don't understand what's behind the producers' selections of their chosen ones, but I do believe that they have chosen ones. I don't understand why they would want to ram Elise down our throats, but I think that's what they are doing. It's probably something tenuous like, they want to strengthen a contestant who didn't join the top 13 with the biggest fan base in order to bring about shock eliminations and eliminate the strongest opposition for whoever they want to win.

Heejun's comment about Jessica was indeed funny! He would've been better off on Got Talent as a comedian who occasionally sang. I don't think he should've made it to the top 25, let alone the top 13,but he had never been at risk before Jimmy and co decided they'd had enough, unlike both Elise and Erika, which is where I'm coming from about manipulation.

Again, I just got confused by your tone last time. I would definitely vote if I was in America - well, maybe not now, but I would have done for Erika

Successful is all anyone can ask for - no on will please everyone, no matter who wins this and what material each of them release afterwards.


It would've been a bit of an elephant in the room if they hadn't at least mentioned Jermaine's disqualification, and a lot of viewers will have wanted to see it. Some won't have known about it before watching the show as casual viewers probably don't check the gossip online. A discreet mention at the start of the show would've sufficed though, and they could've exposed the juicy details on their equivalent of The Xtra Factor. We don't get it over here but I think they do have one - and we could always have looked it up on Youtube

What I think is if the producers want to give anybody a special treatment, it'd be someone who will bring a more commercial value for their show. Out of the 4 remaining girls I think all other 3 girls are better looking than Elise and much younger so I see no reason why Elise will get an edge here, I might be well wrong though. I read that she got too much praise from the judges/Jimmy, she had students up stage and she sang with Stevie. Now I think she had the best performance each day in the last 3 weeks and don't think she got more praises than she deserved. I was kind of pissed off though after last weeks, cause I thought she was the only one deserving an S.O and they gave like everybody one, but for her they weren't sure to stand up. It was supposed to be her night (which kind of was) but they still ruined it for her at some extent. The same when she sang "I'm Your Baby Tonight". It was not a great performance, but still I liked it and she got a lot of criticism and Hollie with weaker performance (IMO) got a lot of praise and told to have the best performance along with Joshua. About having students up stage I think all the contestants having such moments, sometimes it gets as creepy as Joshua's lobster/fish stuff on stage. I see no edge here for Elise or anyone though. They've always been having these kind of additions in the show and at some point it may work well for any of the contestants. Singing with Stevie, well she sang with her so why wouldn't they show it? We saw Phillip performing for the girls, Heejun giving a funny autographed pic to Jimmy and Marry J Blige (not sure about the spell ) and many many moments we can see every week about all the contestants. My point is, regarding who we like/dislike we may see things differently, I don't see anything done intentionally to boost Elise there whatsoever.

Elise's fan base has grown now. It didn't change much after the top 11 and top 10 night, although her performances were great , but increased a lot after Whole Lotta Love. Her twitter followers almost doubled up during the last week and many people who weren't a fan seemed to like her and/or vote for her. But still I think she'll have to bring an A game every night or she'll be in trouble. Someone like Colton might survive an average performance easily, but not her IMO.


It can be called manipulation or help. Of course what judges and Jimmy say affect people's thinking, but then again it's their job to speak their mind. They have a better understanding of how the music industry works and are there to give their input. The judges might be wearing their rainbow glasses most of the time, but they thought Heejun wasn't taking it seriously and spoke of it. Again he got eliminated when he got an S.O (well everybody got but anyway) and we didn't hear Jimmy's comment until he was already out. But beside these, just because he hadn't been in danger before doesn't mean that he wouldn't have got eliminated regardless of the judges. I think he would've left soon anyway even the judges/Jimmy didn't say a thing. Here's an interview with him which I quite enjoyed (after eliminations):

http://youtu.be/8xV5r7C1zrc


I started watching the show last season, the reason being Steven Tyler. It happened that I picked up some favorite contestants (like anybody else I guess). Elise is my favorite among the remaining contestants, but I'm not 100% whether I like her or the show that much to vote. I just follow to see what happens and how things go. Again if I was actually in the US things might have been totally different.


From what you said I understood that although you think both Pink and Katey Perry are successful, you find Pink better or closer to your liking and so is comparing Erika to Pink, but not Katey. The same here. I don't like either of those, regardless of how successful they are. I just rather to compare my favorite contestant to something of my musical taste.

Well yes, if they don't use the save, then there'd have to be a double elimination then, but I really don't think there'll ever be a year where the judges don't use the save, let alone this one where the judges seem to love everyone!

I think that Elise will at the bottom for tomorrow's results and will be saved after singing for her life. Her solo performance tonight just wasn't good enough....

Think it'll be used on Josh, maybe next week?

Shouldn't be used on Holly, Elise or Deandre as I don't think any of the three can win.

The judges have probably got in the back of their minds that in every series there is one shock result. Think back to the likes of Chris Daughtry who went out at top 5 before the save was introduced.

I think if anyone is at risk of needing to be saved, it would be Skylar. C&W has a huge fanbase, but with Scotty having won last year, there could be a large number looking for something different to win this year. As the numbers dwindle, her fanbase may not grow at the same rate as others maybe putting her in jeopardy around top six or five.

Not surprised Deandre wasn't saved and I doubt Elise would have been either or again as I said Hollie. I was gutted when Daughtry went but he has shown he didn't need the show to get a career.

Hmm 2 weeks to use the save...well I think Holly and Elise will probably go in the next 2 weeks unless there is a shock decision and only then will the save be used.

If I'm not mistaken I think that the judges will have to use the save in the next two weeks due to Jermaine being booted out a few weeks back....

They don't HAVE to use the save. It's an option. They can use it for the next three weeks ie top 7/6/5.

I agree - If anyone apart from these two get voted out in the next two weeks then the save will be used. The top 5 seem quite obvious and rightfully so. If Holly or Elise is bottom next week I think they will let them go and save whoever is the bottom the following week to give that person a lifeline and to make the series last a week longer.

Will they use it at all as surely with the other guy being eliminated they are a contestandt down? So there could be a save for getting into top six then getting into top 5 so surely that's 2 as they said they only had the option up to top 5?

Oh, I'd forgotten about Jermaine leaving, so that does leave them one short. I suspect there was originally going to be a double elimination at some point. Last series I watched there was a double elimination after the save, so maybe they won't have that. Presumably they HAVE to use the save now though, otherwise their numbers end up wrong?

I think they would definitely save Phillip, Joshua or Jessica. I also think they would probably
save Colton, depending on his performance (although I think he may have banked up enough good performances now to warrant the save regardless).

As far as I can remember, the only three left that have been in the bottom three are Hollie, Skylar and Elise. If those three are the next to leave, then I think they will let the first two go and use the save at the last opportunity, whoever that means saving.

Well Joshua was in bottom three on the first show with the top 13 so out of the male contestants he is surely at more risk of being eliminated and rightfully so. I Think they want to use the save on Elise. In a way they already saved her at the start because then the next few weeks she was in the bottom three again so most likely did have the least votes. Also they wanna keep it for thier favourites Joshua and Jessica. They want Hollie gone for some reason so won't save her. I think Hollie is gone next week anyway, she'll get another load of crap from the people giving out "constructive" criticism and America will go along with it.

Randy basically admitted last week that he would have saved Elise, but Jennifer wouldn't have. So i guess it all comes down to Steven and I think he would save her.

Re Elise, what would be the point of saving her, from the judges' (and producers') POV? Personally I really like her (probably my third fave after Phillip and Colton), but she's not getting the votes week after week, so if they save her she is likely to go the next week. If she has no chance of going on to win, then is there any point in keeping her longer? I think if she gave an outstanding performance but was still voted out they might use it (as they should), and I think when it's their last opportunity to use the save they will use it on anyone, otherwise I can't see what motivation they would have for using it?

That week they had a bottom SIX, not bottom three - he's never hit bottom three since so it's likely he was 4th, 5th or 6th from the bottom

Another thought - he was in the 'bottom three guys'. So if (for example) Phillip, Colton, Jessica, DeAndre were the top four, he could have (theoretically) been placed fifth from the top or anywhere below that . .

I have a horrible feeling that Jessica may be in need of the save this week. I hope it doesn’t happen but after Pia-gate last season anything is possible!

i don’t think they can use it when they get to the top 5 its only up until then so only 2 weeks left!

Well , as i said , I gave it another go only to tune in and see my other fave Deandre getting the boot !!

They only have this week and next for the save btw, it has to be used before top 5 so imo they will use it this week regardless as it makes next week pretty pointless if we know theyre going to save whoever has the bottom votes (as youve said they have to use it or theyre a week short)

When was the final supposed to be? People keep saying they are a week short because of Jermaine being botted off the show but i recall previous years when they made a top 13 having a double elimination one week so wouldn't the week Jermaine got botted off count? Since he got botted off due to legal issues then they didn't need to do a double elimination week so American Idol should be alright unless they set a final date and there never was a planned double elimination?

they always plan for the save to be used (in weeks) and have a double elimination after it. Now if the save is used this year then theyd only have to continue with a single elimination due to the extra person being voted off; However, what people are saying is if they dont use the save then they are 1 week light, which means unlike other years they HAVE to use the save to keep on track and its either this week or next week they have to use it

Now it makes no sense to wait until next week as it becomes pointless to vote as no one will go home so it will be used this week, and probably on a girl