What do you want to do? if you're stuck then sod your parents, they got you christmas day so your bf gets you NYE

You got any resolutions for next year?

Yeah it was a little lacklustre. I was hoping that Thomas was finally going to get him some "Turkish Delight", but noooo.. they were all "can we be friends?"

Yeah I wanted them to get it on, while also not really wanting them to get it on with my grandfather being in the room watching with us!

^hahaha awkward! Although a smooch is a probably as far as it'd go. Downton maybe rather modern in it having a gay character, but I doubt most of the audience are ready for a bit of footman-on-valet corset ripping action.

Yeah, I want to do that but whenever they talk about NYE, they get all excited about us all being there so I don't want to be mean and just go out. He's being really understanding about the whole thing which makes it a bit easier but also makes me more desperate to go to the party

Not really, gonna try and get in shape but I don't think that'll last long!

Now, now we can't roll our eyes at Jimmy, it was the 1920's after all

Thomas is horrible anyway, he doesn't deserve any action for a very long time

You're a good son.

Christmas is family time, NYE is meant for friends (and in your case boyfriends) in my opinion.

@Adam that's also why I hate watching anything with gay characters or content in it when my dad is there,it makes me feel awkward even though it shouldn't

lol that's true, he's not exactly a great poster boy for the gays on TV.

Makes me wonder, what are the say top 5 (or 10) gay TV characters?

I don't know where to begin!

Justin Suarez from Ugly Betty would be up there simply for being one of the youngest openly gay characters, I loved Justin

Also the guy who plays Gary in Miranda played a gay nurse in a really good Drama called No Angels. I was only 11 when it was airing but when I watched it again when I was older I understood it more (Also Jo Joyner was awesome in it, much better than she is in Eastenders!)

Yeah, in general it was pretty boring. Also what was O'Brien attempting to do? Just inform the stern woman what her maid was up to?

I thought that would happen when he headed up, it was a bit... anticlimactic when they suddenly just read the newspaper together - I mean he called the police/tried to - on him! Thomas only got beaten up for him...

The ending... was obviously going to happen, sad but in a way I'm not too bothered either...

I was expecting Jimmy to be all "you're my hero!" but no, guess that was too clichéd.


Well I didn't know that! Ooo the thought of Tom Ellis being on our team.. *sigh*


Good choice, although they never tackled his sexuality until the latter half of S4... should that go for or against him?

You see I was thinking that you would have to exclude Mr. Humphries (You Being Served) and Cissy Meldrum (You Rang M'Lord?) as although they were the first gay characters on prime time British TV, neither of them were out on the show.

And if you're talking Ugly Betty, you can't leave out Marc St. James, however does his character fit the "great" title?

I know it sounds bias, I'll add Glee's Blaine Anderson and Kurt Hummel to the list, and in that same breath Modern Family's Cameron Tucker and Mitchell Pritchett.

Then again, how can we define greatness? Do they have to portray an achievement over adversity (Blaine/Kurt) or do they portray a happy family life (Cam/Mitchell)?

I've onyl started watching Modern Family recently and Cam is the worst character in my opinion, he's so catty, he always makes himself the victim. I like everyone else though, especially Gloria, Mani, Alex and Luke

I think I'm a little like Marc with the cutting sarcastic comments. My favourite moment of him was when he/Amanda tried throwing Betty down the stairs then she took them both down with her

I would say Naomily were fantastic lesbian chaacters, not just eye candy whores for j/o material, but they were a great portrayal of a lesbian couple and most Skins fans loved them

I think it's important to remember that we'll never have 'perfect' gay relationship/character on TV. They're only ever going to be as flawed as any other character.

I can see your point, but on the flipside its nice to see a family unit portrayed and Cam would do anything for Mitch and Lilly.

I'm looking forward to the new show The New Normal on E4 (in part only because it has Justin Bartha in it! ) hopefully it will be another positive gay TV presence.


Marc was a good character, especially when he started to side with Betty. Shame he never got a second bf plot.

Never seen Skins, but I'll take your word for it.


Too true, and really that's a good thing, we don't need them to be a fake there-for-the-sake-of-it character.

I also liked Evan out of Rick and Steve, but to be honest all the characters were terrible representations of gay/lesbian people but it was a lego animation for crying out loud

I just saw an ad for New Normal and I'll be watching it as well. I'm also looking forward to the show on January 14th with the Overweight girl, E4 really excel when it comes to drama

I like argon from Spartacus.

I haven't seen that. Any good? I'm always on the lookout for series to watch.

My goodness I've pretty much lost my life to the rom-com selection on Netflix! Gotta love a good romance movie to brighten up the rainy nights !

I think it's really good! Well written and made. Of course you have to get over all the characters dying which is harsh, but they never outstay their welcome at least that sounds depressing but it's a thoroughly enjoyable show.

I like Agron since his sexuality is never an issue. It just makes him well rounded as a character and stronger. In fact all the characters gay or straight or just shagging around are treated really the same.

Snoop out of The Wire was a lesbian, I thought she was strangely attractive. Probably because she looks, acts and is butcher than me

Hey fags.

Sup shirtlifter, how's it hanging?

s'all grand. how are you?

Bitchin, got a fun NYE planned

You getting up to anything on NYE?

NYE should be fun, i'm gonna go to a party in town. Just found out the guy I like is going too, so that should be... nass.

I've been out of action for DAYS so Monday needs to make up for it.