Well no, it's hard to explain. We're talking about things I 'feel'. It's hard to explain a feeling. I just know that I am who I am, because of who I am...if you follow.

I wasn't saying that being gay makes me like girly things, because equally, there are plenty of guys or girls who aren't so stereotypical...

But, I just kind of liked the things I did, I was pushed into other things, but I couldn't appreciate them the same way.

I guess anyone who has grown up in a ethnic cultural, Catholic family might recognise what I'm on about..

There were certain expectations of the 'men', and I didn't really fit in with them. Even my mum says she always knew I was different.



That's the real point I was trying to make, I think I've gone off tangent a bit..

It doesn't necessarily! Gay guys are all different just like anyone; I know one guy who's built like a brick shithouse and plays rugby for example...

I think a point that Jason and I are maybe touching on is that the fact that we've already accepted that we're different to the 'norms' of society in some way means that we perhaps kind of find it a little easier to embrace other aspects of our personality that maybe aren't conventional in the eyes of everyone. I could probably word this a bit better but hopefully you'll know what I mean!

Yes I understand, and I am glad you added that it wasn't a given as well.
I am still curious about these phrases:



but I wouldn't know how you would expand on that.

ChristmasCake I know what you mean and have heard others say the same thing. Even though I have always enjoyed and been good at things that were traditional male pastimes like drinking, animals, outdoors, boxing, I've never liked football and I liked reading and drawing a lot. I am really good at cooking.

Maybe I am justifying it in reverse and seeing correlation but not causation, but I can see how that might give comfort rather than distress.

It alarms me when someone straight can be called "oh he's just a big softie" for being nice or something, and then when a gay does it they give him grief for doing it because he's gay and obviously just being effeminate. They can be doing exactly the same thing.

What're you curious about? I think the key point is that you're not going to get around the fact that the natural assumption of people is that boys are interested in girls and when you grow up, irrespective of how accepting people are you have the impression of that being 'how it is' and becoming aware of not fitting in with that if you're gay.

yes I see that, that's just all it is though right? but I don't see why that would make me not like football.

It wouldn't! I know for example Jason (ChristmasCake) is a big football fan, and he's a raging homo like me!

It's official, GG looooves Essex The people here are just so lovely and welcoming and the weather has been great (so much so we had a BBQ!!) Can't wait for my day of snooping round rich properties tomorrow
Haha I only really take my camera out for like special occasions/holidays etc and thankfully have managed to limit my fb pics to those sorts of things I'm quite flukey at evading camera snappy-happy monsters who always manage to get awful pictures of me

Awwh, I wouldn't say most are Javvy There's a few which are very unique (), then again we all have those on our pics (in fact I have a few too many for my liking )!!

Btw, did you happen to catch Queens final? My twitter feed seemed to erupt in tweets about Nalbandian but I missed it all because of travelling

is a raging homo meaning you are a flamer, or you just really really like guys or that you are incredibly comfortable being gay or what. Sorry if that's an obvious question or you were just joking.

Since it was describing me, I'd say a bit of both.

Haha, sounds like you are having an amazing time already xD


Nah, I was out then at work but I just watched the clip on BBC, it was hilarious! Awful way to end a match but it was very funny I must say...

I was saying it jokily.

But Jase, if you're happy to be a raging homo then that's fine by me!

Geeky... SHUT UP (get it, get it).

Nice to see you are enjoying Essex <3.

Haha, I'm definitely fine with it.

You watch TOWIE?

Oops, I told my friend about Fifty Shades of Grey yesterday. She bought it but apparently it's a 'mummy's porn' erotic novel... I don't think she'll like it Everyone was raving about it... It has BDSM

Lol, it was sold out everywhere for ages wasn't it?

You love a bit of bdsm don't you javvy?

Lol, we seen quite a few in both water stones and WHsmith.

I wouldn't expect such a novel being on the best seller lists... Also it's apparently originated from some Twilight fanfic...

I did see a series called 'Gone' which seems ok... It's by Michael Grant

Haha, I'm innocent, like the smoothie.

Do I **** watch TOWIE, JavJav, take that back now -sobs-

Made In Chelsea >

How anyone could watch TOWIE, MIC, Goeride Shore, Desperate Skanks from Liverpool etc obviously had a lobotomy done

Haha, well they're all not really to my tastes Laguna Beach <3

Do you think there should be an TOWIG?

The Only Way is Govan

Essex has fake tans, fake hair and vaj/pejazzles.

Govan has fake teeth, junkies and buckfast

Lol, did you not read about the rumours of a 'The Hills' type of show in Glasgow's wealthy suburb of 'Newton Mearns'?

Just read up on it lol sounds just as hideous

Bitch please, you'd love cuddling with me and watch Made In Chelsea.

Going to get the series on DVD soon I think.

If 'cuddling' is what you kids are calling strangling these days then yes I will be 'cuddling' you

We've got chavvy ****s on TOWIE and toffee nosed ****s on MIC and together both of the casts combined have an IQ score of 54.

If brains were chocolate they'd be a smartie...

Pahaha, the majority of my friends are from there...

I lolled when they said they have a designer Oxfam...