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The Aaron Appreciation Thread (Part 16)
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EnJayKing
12-08-2012
Only 1 more day of Aaron as the reigning Big Brother Champion. It's fair to say that none of this years Housemates have had to work as hard as Aaron did last year to survive in the house.

While i greatly respect his decision to walk away from Big Brother, and showbiz in general, i really wish he would show up on BOTS on Monday to shake hands with the winner and pass the torch. But i guess that will never happan. Would just be nice to see him on TV again.

Ah well, back to lurking......
EnJayKing
12-08-2012
I believe he mentioned liking Scott on Twitter but could be mistaken, can't really see him getting on with Scott in the house but Aaron always was a bit of an enigma.

And i agree, Adam to win BB13!
j_cowans_jcats
14-08-2012
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
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Conor and Arron made Deana relevant by shutting her down and bullying her.Her entertainment came from being dignified and raising above it.From what you are saying being loud and nasty to others is 'entertainment'.Aaron and Jay were rivals but there was no bullying and that is the difference.”

Spot on.
Silver-Fox
14-08-2012
The good thing about recent events is that Aaron may feel he can move on now, as a former BB winner rather than the reigning champ and all the hype that goes with it.

Onward and forward Aaron and Faye. xx

Noisy Oyster
14-08-2012
Originally Posted by Silver-Fox:
“The good thing about recent events is that Aaron may feel he can move on now, as a former BB winner rather than the reigning champ and all the hype that goes with it.

Onward and forward Aaron and Faye. xx

”

He'll always be a champ to me. I still love coming on here to see how things are going for Aaron and Faye
quasimoron
14-08-2012
Quote:
“Originally Posted by ucra girl

Conor and Arron made Deana relevant by shutting her down and bullying her.Her entertainment came from being dignified and raising above it.From what you are saying being loud and nasty to others is 'entertainment'.Aaron and Jay were rivals but there was no bullying”



According to Emma and Jeff last year Aaron was being bullied and according to Tom, Jays bad bits were never shown..
He said Conor was Jay with the bad bits left in. I remember Alex and Loo saying he scared them, when in his moods. i also remember Jay saying himself, he was violent outside.
I believe there was bullying but Aaron never got the sympathy Deana got. The producers IMo bullied him. He was vilified on the satelite shows.

The guy was booed and terrified on his eviction, that's bullying to me. His family was treated badly by the producers and so was Aaron. I am glad he won but it made me sad to see Luke A walking out to cheers last night,after the way Aaron was treated.
Then to hear Brian say this is the way it should be and this was the type of person who should win etc, so unfair.Aaron was never nasty, not like this years lot. They vilified him and then gave him a case of money to make him look worse.
Nosnikrapl
15-08-2012
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“According to Emma and Jeff last year Aaron was being bullied and according to Tom, Jays bad bits were never shown..
He said Conor was Jay with the bad bits left in. I remember Alex and Loo saying he scared them, when in his moods. i also remember Jay saying himself, he was violent outside.
I believe there was bullying but Aaron never got the sympathy Deana got. The producers IMo bullied him. He was vilified on the satelite shows.

The guy was booed and terrified on his eviction, that's bullying to me. His family was treated badly by the producers and so was Aaron. I am glad he won but it made me sad to see Luke A walking out to cheers last night,after the way Aaron was treated.
Then to hear Brian say this is the way it should be and this was the type of person who should win etc, so unfair.Aaron was never nasty, not like this years lot. They vilified him and then gave him a case of money to make him look worse.”

The whole thing stank with Aaron last year. I'd also like to know what Jem & then Faye's Mum were told about Aaron as I do find it difficult to reconcile what we saw on show & their reactions. I'm sure Faye/Aaron do know.

Brian is very bitchy - always was which was why he wasn't my favourite in BB2. Much of it was kept out of highlights & he did have a very funny side which over rode other traits for many.

I personally question producers/betting/scams. Why? BB10 which two housemates got given 'new' names - Halfwit & Dogface. Which two housemates got the sympathy votes in BB10? Freddie blew it but the glamour girl known as Dogface won. Used by the terrible player Chris. Look at how she came through on the betting.

BB11 - when it all looked a bit dicey for Josie we have a pass to the final & a 4 way eviction. Guy on Wright Stuff Channel 5 said he had been tipped off prior to show to bet on Josie!!

BB12 - Aaron was a last minute entrant. I suspect he replaced Bobby who got moved up to CBB due to a drop-out. He was supposed to go in the first half of the series as the arrogant middle-class womaniser. They had set up for Jay to win- the male version of Josie!! Flippin romance was the same with him getting with the model out of his league.

BB13 - having failed last year they went for the safe option of transgender as their success in getting a win for the 'different' housemate has good. Pete/Nadia & Mikey openly disliked on every forum I saw getting 49% of vote. He only lost because that year they had a long period when the last two were up against each other which allowed Rex/Darnell/Sarah supporters to chip in to support Rachel supporters get her over the line.


The only consolation is that I'm sure there were 'key' folks significantly out of pocket last year. They even believed I think that on final night the casual vote would prevent the win as they had been plugging Alex as an alternative to drain Aaron vote away.
Tall Paul
19-08-2012
Have to say that Aaron was a far better winner than Luke a with more interesting storylines. I tweeted him about Robin Van Persie going to Man United and he replied instantly. Wasn't amused with a very rude teenager girl in the BBBOTS audience saying along the lines that "Aaron wasn't likeable at all" and thought to myself what a chav. The fans and me included know what a decent guy he is and that is it. Simples.
Noisy Oyster
19-08-2012
It still annoys me the way Aaron was treated last year but at least they didn't seem to take such a visible dislike to any of this year's favourites, so I must reluctantly say I think they learned from the Aaron situation. I do think Deana was treated a bit unfairly but she did go off the rails a little at the end - actually so did Luke A once the pressure was off with Conor gone although to nowhere the same extent (and who can blame either of them, it must have been a tremendous relief with such an awful atmosphere while he was still there).

The difference with Aaron, I think, is that he faced it pretty much alone, whereas Deana, Adam and Luke A found each other although it was still a miracle they survived with so many against them. Faye was supportive to Aaron in reality but was used as a stick to beat him with by BB and BOTS.

I'm sure there are still a lot of people who disliked Aaron simply because of the editing on the show however much they think they made their own minds up. You're always going to get some who see things differently to the majority and support the likes of Conor but I do not believe that Aaron did anything to justify the serious dislike some people still have for him - it is down to the editing and bias shown by BB and BOTS and I don't think that is forgiveable.
Nosnikrapl
19-08-2012
Originally Posted by Noisy Oyster:
“It still annoys me the way Aaron was treated last year but at least they didn't seem to take such a visible dislike to any of this year's favourites, so I must reluctantly say I think they learned from the Aaron situation. I do think Deana was treated a bit unfairly but she did go off the rails a little at the end - actually so did Luke A once the pressure was off with Conor gone although to nowhere the same extent (and who can blame either of them, it must have been a tremendous relief with such an awful atmosphere while he was still there).

The difference with Aaron, I think, is that he faced it pretty much alone, whereas Deana, Adam and Luke A found each other although it was still a miracle they survived with so many against them. Faye was supportive to Aaron in reality but was used as a stick to beat him with by BB and BOTS.

I'm sure there are still a lot of people who disliked Aaron simply because of the editing on the show however much they think they made their own minds up. You're always going to get some who see things differently to the majority and support the likes of Conor but I do not believe that Aaron did anything to justify the serious dislike some people still have for him - it is down to the editing and bias shown by BB and BOTS and I don't think that is forgiveable.”

Precisely. Folks like or dislike housemates - personal choice but the venom in some of the stuff aimed at him is just beyond comprehension for a reality tv show winner. As you say stoked up by producers. It is actually I suspect the Conor gang supporters who were supporting Jay last year.
Noisy Oyster
19-08-2012
Originally Posted by Nosnikrapl:
“Precisely. Folks like or dislike housemates - personal choice but the venom in some of the stuff aimed at him is just beyond comprehension for a reality tv show winner. As you say stoked up by producers. It is actually I suspect the Conor gang supporters who were supporting Jay last year.”

Especially for someone who is actually quite mild-mannered, intelligent and funny. Some people like, say, Jay or Caroline provoke strong reactions in people so you're always going to get people who have polar opposite opinions but Aaron as himself was never going to provoke such dislike which was the reason he struggled to get picked to be a housemate. The fact that he made a fool of someone with his pretend 'ladies man' act was, I think, the reason they went all out to discredit him.
docman
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Nosnikrapl:
“BB12 - Aaron was a last minute entrant. I suspect he replaced Bobby who got moved up to CBB due to a drop-out.”

He was a replacement for a drop out but I haven't heard about any link with Bobby. The drop out will unlikely never appear now. I think Alex was too and had been in the test run.
ucra girl
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Noisy Oyster:
“Especially for someone who is actually quite mild-mannered, intelligent and funny. Some people like, say, Jay or Caroline provoke strong reactions in people so you're always going to get people who have polar opposite opinions but Aaron as himself was never going to provoke such dislike which was the reason he struggled to get picked to be a housemate. The fact that he made a fool of someone with his pretend 'ladies man' act was, I think, the reason they went all out to discredit him.”



I think the producers didnt expect the public to like him and they went out of their way to discredit him.However BB is not a straight forward show.The winner depends upon the rest of the house mates and how the show shapes out.Luke A wouldnt have won BB12 because it wasnt about being nice.Like wise Aaron wouldnt have won BB13 because his out spoken nature and principles would have been taken wrongly and more so he would not do goups at all and his romance wouldnt fit.
Silver-Fox
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Nosnikrapl:
“Precisely. Folks like or dislike housemates - personal choice but the venom in some of the stuff aimed at him is just beyond comprehension for a reality tv show winner. As you say stoked up by producers. It is actually I suspect the Conor gang supporters who were supporting Jay last year.”

I would be very surprised if the was any connection at all with Jay. Separate Conor fans in different circumstances.
Noisy Oyster
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Silver-Fox:
“I would be very surprised if the was any connection at all with Jay. Separate Conor fans in different circumstances. ”

It's difficult to tell really, some of the people who supported Jay may well have supported Conor - a buffed up, salt of the earth, outspoken type with no refinement but a heart of gold as they saw it, I would imagine. I definitely think the BB producers saw him as a second version of Jay.

From my own point of view, however, although I much preferred Aaron to Jay, coming from the same area I am very familiar with Jay's type, in a lot of respects he is an ordinary lad from the North East. He at least tried at times to make peace with Aaron despite not having a clue what he was all about, so far away from the people Jay was used to dealing with. Sometimes I even found Jay's bewilderment at Aaron really funny to watch. I genuinely think most, if not all, of Jay's outbursts were full of hot air and there was no doubt about his feelings for Louise. Conor, on the other hand, came across as totally malevolent. With Jay, I think we actually saw him at his worst whereas with Conor I always felt that there was something even more unpleasant lurking below the surface which either he himself or BB in their editing hid from us.

I could imagine having a conversation with Jay and finding him quite likeable; I could never imagine liking Conor no matter what the circumstances.
Nosnikrapl
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Silver-Fox:
“I would be very surprised if the was any connection at all with Jay. Separate Conor fans in different circumstances. ”

You have a core of viewers who come from an underclass who identify with housemates like Jay/Conor. They see these housemates as reflecting their values/beliefs. No different to a core of viewers who hunt the victim with every series. Quite often at the hands of a bloke. We saw that with Aaron who had all sorts of abusive behaviour projected onto him.

As regards this underclass. Their hate for Aaron is simple the educated middle class wimp (as they see it) beat 'them' when he beat Jay. You are still getting their reaction to this today.
Silver-Fox
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Noisy Oyster:
“It's difficult to tell really, some of the people who supported Jay may well have supported Conor - a buffed up, salt of the earth, outspoken type with no refinement but a heart of gold as they saw it, I would imagine. I definitely think the BB producers saw him as a second version of Jay.

From my own point of view, however, although I much preferred Aaron to Jay, coming from the same area I am very familiar with Jay's type, in a lot of respects he is an ordinary lad from the North East. He at least tried at times to make peace with Aaron despite not having a clue what he was all about, so far away from the people Jay was used to dealing with. Sometimes I even found Jay's bewilderment at Aaron really funny to watch. I genuinely think most, if not all, of Jay's outbursts were full of hot air and there was no doubt about his feelings for Louise. Conor, on the other hand, came across as totally malevolent. With Jay, I think we actually saw him at his worst whereas with Conor I always felt that there was something even more unpleasant lurking below the surface which either he himself or BB in their editing hid from us.

I could imagine having a conversation with Jay and finding him quite likeable; I could never imagine liking Conor no matter what the circumstances.”

With the exception of BIB. I fully agree with you
ucra girl
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by Nosnikrapl:
“You have a core of viewers who come from an underclass who identify with housemates like Jay/Conor. They see these housemates as reflecting their values/beliefs. No different to a core of viewers who hunt the victim with every series. Quite often at the hands of a bloke. We saw that with Aaron who had all sorts of abusive behaviour projected onto him.

As regards this underclass. Their hate for Aaron is simple the educated middle class wimp (as they see it) beat 'them' when he beat Jay. You are still getting their reaction to this today.”

On the whole we support housemates with whom we share values,beliefs,traits and morals.I do think your assessment is valid although I never understand how Jay a son of a property developer Mother turned out to be so classless,it is baffling.Jay supporters can naturally be drawn to Conor and dislike Aaron.
Nosnikrapl
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“On the whole we support housemates with whom we share values,beliefs,traits and morals.I do think your assessment is valid although I never understand how Jay a son of a property developer Mother turned out to be so classless,it is baffling.Jay supporters can naturally be drawn to Conor and dislike Aaron.”

But that isn't how he was sold to the viewing public was it. Also his attitudes/behaviour were those understood by an underclass & I have to agree dislked by me. tI meant absolutely nothing to me what his mother did. Jay/Conor did attract a similar fan base. You could say that Wolfpak attracted a similar fanbase to the Insiders. BB12 could have turned out very differently if Aaron had not been able to use his intellect to dismante the Wolfpak. Also remember Faye was pulled into Wolfpak early doors & in another house could find herself viewed very differently. So much in BB for fm's is guilt by association. .
Silver-Fox
20-08-2012
Each BB is a dish cooked with its own ingredients, served up as meal to excite our taste buds or make us sick.
staceyxxx23
20-08-2012
I don't think you can say any two housemates will have a similar fanbase, tbh. Like Aaron is my favourite housemate of all time, I couldn't stand Jay, and Conor was my favourite housemate from BB13. I found Jay pretty disgusting with the apparent shitting in the freezer, how aggressive he came across and his language and the things he saw as "romantic". I couldn't really see any redeeming qualities about him.

I found Conor to be the most real housemate last series, and also one of the most entertaining, interesting and funny. I wouldn't defend all of his behaviour in the house, and I don't think he would either, but I did find him a genuine person and kept a fun atmosphere in there.
rafles
20-08-2012
Originally Posted by staceyxxx23:
“I don't think you can say any two housemates will have a similar fanbase, tbh. Like Aaron is my favourite housemate of all time, I couldn't stand Jay, and Conor was my favourite housemate from BB13. I found Jay pretty disgusting with the apparent shitting in the freezer, how aggressive he came across and his language and the things he saw as "romantic". I couldn't really see any redeeming qualities about him.

I found Conor to be the most real housemate last series, and also one of the most entertaining, interesting and funny. I wouldn't defend all of his behaviour in the house, and I don't think he would either, but I did find him a genuine person and kept a fun atmosphere in there.”

If Aaron and Conor had been in the same house I think you would have to seriously decide where your loyalities lay for they are on totally different planets.
staceyxxx23
21-08-2012
Originally Posted by rafles:
“If Aaron and Conor had been in the same house I think you would have to seriously decide where your loyalities lay for they are on totally different planets. ”

Well, I would support Aaron over anyone but you can't really say that people support the "same" type of housemate each series because I know I definitely don't, that's just the point I was trying to get across.
ucra girl
21-08-2012
Originally Posted by rafles:
“If Aaron and Conor had been in the same house I think you would have to seriously decide where your loyalities lay for they are on totally different planets. ”

Totally agree.I cant see how Aaron and Conor can even be compared tbh.

Originally Posted by staceyxxx23:
“Well, I would support Aaron over anyone but you can't really say that people support the "same" type of housemate each series because I know I definitely don't, that's just the point I was trying to get across.”

It happens but at the end of the day it is down to which traits in Aaron or Conor relate to you as a person.It doesnt mean Aaron and Conor have anything in common.I know I have supported the same housemates with very many fms on this forum and at least one fm in the same order where Aaron is no2.
Silver-Fox
27-08-2012
Watch this space.
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