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Who decides on the name on the shirt?
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degsyhufc
02-04-2012
I know there are diffent naming conventions in different cultures but if you take Chicharito then that is just a nickname.

I thought Jonás Gutiérrez was pretty straight forward, especially for a South American, but on his shirt he has Jonas.

Just wondering if the Central/South Americans can use nicknames then why couldn't we have shirts with Gazza, Giggsy and Sparky on them
mrcynical
02-04-2012
Has any fan ever bought a shirt and asked for Shittu to be printed on it?
celesti
02-04-2012
The naming convention differs from country to country, but I'm not sure whether nicknames for English players are actually prohibited or whether they rightly think that it'd be plebby for Rooney to wander round with Wazza on his shirt.

I remember the Norwegian player Jakobsen would have his nickname 'Mini' on his back.
soulboy77
02-04-2012
I guess it's down to the player what name goes on their shirt though there is a tradition in South America of having a nickname. Many of the Spanish and Portugese players have very elaborate full names incorporating both their paternal and maternal family names but choose to be known by a simplified version.

Chicharito actually means 'Little Pea'. Imagine calling an English player 'Sprout', 'Sweetcorn' or 'Mange Tout', it doesn't have quite the same ring does it?
BomoLad
02-04-2012
Originally Posted by soulboy77:
“I guess it down to the player what name goes on their shirt though there is a tradition in South America of having a nickname. Many of the Spanish and Portugese players have very elaborate full names incorporating both their paternal and maternal family names but choose to be known by a simplified version.

Chicharito actually means 'Little Pea'. Imagine calling an English player 'Sprout', 'Sweetcorn' or 'Mange Tout', it doesn't have quite the same ring does it?”

Andy Carroll is known as the Massive Turnip in some quarters.
Red Okktober
02-04-2012
Jordi Cruyff used to just have 'Jordi' on his shirt. I dunno if he felt pressure by having one of the most famous names in football on his back so elected for his christian name only, but it always struck me as being a bit daft because everyone knew who he was anyway. Especially as 'Jordi' seems a bit lame, a bit like an Englishman having 'Billy' or 'Timmy' on his shirt
Tribec
02-04-2012
Originally Posted by Red Okktober:
“Jordi Cruyff used to just have 'Jordi' on his shirt. I dunno if he felt pressure by having one of the most famous names in football on his back so elected for his christian name only, but it always struck me as being a bit daft because everyone knew who he was anyway. Especially as 'Jordi' seems a bit lame, a bit like an Englishman having 'Billy' or 'Timmy' on his shirt”

Jordi did indeed feel the pressure of having Cruyff on his back, he mentioned that when he joined United. However later in his United career he did change to Cruyff after I think the Premier League change the rules on names.
mrcynical
02-04-2012
Originally Posted by Tribec:
“Jordi did indeed feel the pressure of having Cruyff on his back, he mentioned that when he joined United. However later in his United career he did change to Cruyff after I think the Premier League change the rules on names.”

That was AFTER we saw how rubbish he was. No pressure.
ZicoZ
02-04-2012
There's also Hulk , of course . I don't like the trend to be honest as it could easily get out of hand.
Jimmy_McNulty
02-04-2012
kun aguero.
BomoLad
02-04-2012
Originally Posted by Jimmy_McNulty:
“kun aguero.”

I assumed that was a misprint.
BrunoStreete
03-04-2012
Originally Posted by celesti:
“The naming convention differs from country to country, but I'm not sure whether nicknames for English players are actually prohibited or whether they rightly think that it'd be plebby for Rooney to wander round with Wazza on his shirt.

I remember the Norwegian player Jakobsen would have his nickname 'Mini' on his back.”

I imagine if Rooney insisted on Wazza on his shirt the FA could do very little about it.
celesti
03-04-2012
Probably, you'd hope he has enough shame not to though.
BrunoStreete
03-04-2012
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Probably, you'd hope he has enough shame not to though.”

I wouldn't be surprised if an English player tried it. Perhaps not Wazza though.
milmol
03-04-2012
For some bizarre reason, probably just that I thought it was wierd, i remember Tyrone Mears had "Tye" on the back of his shirt when he was at Derby
ZicoZ
03-04-2012
When did this trend start ?

I'm wondering why Gasgoigne didn't have Gazza on his shirt ??
R.Vecchio
03-04-2012
Its all about "marketing"

The worst I think is Kevin "Prince" Boateng. Who has Prince on his shirt
celesti
03-04-2012
Prince isn't a nickname, it's after his father.
Jimmy_McNulty
03-04-2012
Originally Posted by BomoLad:
“I assumed that was a misprint.”

Unfortunately not.

I believe Kun is a Japanese anime character which Aguero looks like.

Pretty sad if you ask me.
BomoLad
03-04-2012
I find Chicharito quite annoying. I refuse to call him anything else than Hernandez. For a start, it's a much, much better name.
mel1213
03-04-2012
I thought the rule was generally thought to be that the name on the shirt hs to either be the players surname or the name they are most commonly known as/referred to? Or has that changed again?

Hence why Wayne Rooney is Rooney whereas Javier Hernandez is Chicharito
TheBaronSpell
03-04-2012
We call Paulo Gazzaniga our (Gillingham) goalkeeper 'Gazza'
He is a product of the Valencia youth team and is from Argentinia. Kept the most clean sheets in the Spanish youth league last season.
degsyhufc
03-04-2012
Originally Posted by mel1213:
“I thought the rule was generally thought to be that the name on the shirt hs to either be the players surname or the name they are most commonly known as/referred to? Or has that changed again?

Hence why Wayne Rooney is Rooney whereas Javier Hernandez is Chicharito”

But usually the presenters, commentators and pundits call him Hernandez, not Chicharito.
mel1213
03-04-2012
Originally Posted by degsyhufc:
“But usually the presenters, commentators and pundits call him Hernandez, not Chicharito.”

But the player has been known as Chicharito all through his life - at home people would call him Chicharito over Javier Hernandez - hence why it's put on his shirt, but here people revert to calling him Hernandez because there's no issue of him being mixed up with another player.
BrunoStreete
03-04-2012
Originally Posted by mel1213:
“I thought the rule was generally thought to be that the name on the shirt hs to either be the players surname or the name they are most commonly known as/referred to? Or has that changed again?

Hence why Wayne Rooney is Rooney whereas Javier Hernandez is Chicharito”

Strange rule really. A player could claim they'd always be known as something, who would know?
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