[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by monalisa62003

if that happens i will hate that. phil has got to be the one who tells shirley. its her best friend afterall. if it was just about phil/ben it shouldve been someone else. shirley inst stupid. she'll suss that phil knew all along

The absolute whole ethos of this storyline is that it will be Shirley who discovers that Ben is the culprit. And he doesn't lose the frame.

Spoiler

He puts the picture frame in his rucksack and hides it on the Square. When he goes back for it, he finds Alfie and Jean have found it; but he manages to get it back.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Originally Posted by VirginiaDem

He may not have intended to kill her, but he certainly intended to hurt her in order to get what he was after - the money he thought she had. He can say that he didn't intend to kill her all he wants - everyone says that when they're caught; but fact is, there was a massive cover-up in the wake of this killing and that would go mightily against Ben. There are also people who saw him acting normally and even making jokes about Heather. The only remorse he's shown has been being remorseful about getting caught.

I agree that he was stupid to ask Phil to cover up his crime and that it was wrong to act normal and crack jokes but I think more recently he has been showing some guilt/remorse - especially since he is uncomfortabe with George being around.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Originally Posted by XXBarbXX

I would have thought Ben would fail a phyc test & be put into some sort of mental institution. He has already asked his dad if he thinks he was a 'nut job'. This could lead the way to his release at some date in the future if the authorities were convinced he was 'cured'.

Yeah I would have thought that too and I hope it pans out the way you suggested but

Spoiler

it looks like he messes up his interview with the psychiatrist anyway by claiming he was "born evil".

[Lizzie Brookes]

Originally Posted by VirginiaDem

The absolute whole ethos of this storyline is that it will be Shirley who discovers that Ben is the culprit. And he doesn't lose the frame.

Spoiler

He puts the picture frame in his rucksack and hides it on the Square. When he goes back for it, he finds Alfie and Jean have found it; but he manages to get it back.

I assume

Spoiler

you are referring to Alfie and Jean finding the rucksack and not the frame. If they found the frame surely they would tell the police?

[Hound of Love]

Yes...probably around Christmas

[maurice45]

Originally Posted by Hound of Love

Yes...probably around Christmas

I seriously hope not. If she doesn't find out by the end of April/May there's no point.

[summerbunny]

ben can no longer stay in the show after this so i take it Joshua Pascoe is leaving for good, when do you think this will be? any spoilers?
i really hope they dont drag this out intill july.

[Orangemaid]

she is abit slow. cos i would've thought she knows by now..with all the guilty looks he keeps giving each time Hev is mentioned..then duff duffs come on

[monalisa62003]

Originally Posted by Orangemaid

she is abit slow. cos i would've thought she knows by now..with all the guilty looks he keeps giving each time Hev is mentioned..then duff duffs come on

Lol the characters dont know that when she finds out all the pieces will fit together