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Old 09-03-2013, 15:24
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Interesting how french job titles are rendered into their british equivalents rather than direct translations, e.g Laure is Chief Inspector instead of Captain and references to the Lord Chancellor's office.
Perhaps they do that to make it easier for viewers to make the comparisons between the ranks and organisations

Just wondering how many of these actors /actresses speak good quality English on a par with our Danish friends from Borgen?
Amr Waked who plays Yannis the (Greek??) anarchist with the walking stick seems to speak fairly good English


Not only has Pierre gone over to the Dark Side but Gilou has managed to set Amina on the path to corruption but getting her to help when he broke into the Sarahoui's boat.

Was Pujade the only honest policeman in the whole of Paris???
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Old 09-03-2013, 20:59
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Do we know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot after Spiral finishes next week??
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Old 09-03-2013, 21:10
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Whatever it is, it won't be a patch on Spiral. I like this a lot more than any of the other European crime series (apart perhaps from series 1 of The Killing.)

Wow, Tintin has an award! That's pretty cool.
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Old 09-03-2013, 21:17
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Whatever it is, it won't be a patch on Spiral. I like this a lot more than any of the other European crime series (apart perhaps from series 1 of The Killing.)

Wow, Tintin has an award! That's pretty cool.
Me, I prefer the Scandinavian dramas. This series of Spiral has not been as engrossing as the other 3. Don't know if I'm imagining it but it doesn't seem to have enough about the characters and their back stories etc.
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Old 09-03-2013, 21:56
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I just really like all the main characters, and feel as though they're very real.

Holy shit at tonight's episode so far! I can't believe they've just done what I think they've just done...
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Old 09-03-2013, 21:59
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I just really like all the main characters, and feel as though they're very real.

Holy shit at tonight's episode so far! I can't believe they've just done what I think they've just done...
I'm 20 minutes behind, thanks for not spoiling.
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Old 09-03-2013, 22:01
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I'm 20 minutes behind, thanks for not spoiling.
Prepare your jaw for dropping.
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Old 09-03-2013, 22:06
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Oooh... it's got more cliff hangers than a wardrobe on a cliff.
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:03
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Do we know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot after Spiral finishes next week??
I did a little search and according to what I found out we're scheduled during the Spring to get Young Montalbano and a Swedish crime series based on the Intercrime series of books. Not sure if one of these is directly after Spiral or not though. We may have a film or two to bridge the gap between different series, we've had that before

Edit: one source has YM starting in spring and another autumn so I've no idea now!
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:07
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This series has been fantastic - absolutely love it!!! Mind you I never saw series 1 & 2.

So many nasty characters in one series. lol.
There's the awful Thomas, Jorkal , Garnier, Herville (sp?) Josephine and now Pierre's in Jorkal's pocket.

Judge Roban is one of my favourite characters.
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:09
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Old 09-03-2013, 23:19
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Great series. And i actually feel like this series has had more depth in other characters such as Tintin which have loved. I much prefer Spiral over any of the other Euro crime series on BBCFour. way more engaging.

And i don't blame Laure for not being able to resist Sami
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:40
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Love Spiral so much. Judge Roban, Josephine and Gilou are outstanding and each character could have a spin off series on their own.

Josephine is so good as a total TV bitch, I hope they don't change her character now she's had her meltdown.

Its so nice to have a quality programme to look forward to; roll on 9 o'clock next Saturday.
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Old 10-03-2013, 14:38
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This series has been fantastic - absolutely love it!!! Mind you I never saw series 1 & 2.

So many nasty characters in one series. lol.
There's the awful Thomas, Jorkal , Garnier, Herville (sp?) Josephine and now Pierre's in Jorkal's pocket.

Judge Roban is one of my favourite characters.
Is Herville really all that bad though??? I mean if I was Laure's boss I'd want to bring someone in to replace her


I hope the business with Nabil and the Sarahouis will come back to haunt Gilou as otherwise the whole storyline will have been an utter waste.
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Old 10-03-2013, 15:42
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I think Herville is ghastly - obsequious little prat who just wants the quick result one way or the other in order to ingratiate himself with his superiors. Laure is indeed one of the blunder flics but he was blaming her for a couple of things she couldn't even help earlier in the series. He also seems to have 'small man syndrome' - jumping around and shouting his head off like a little terrier. He'll give himself a coronary one of these days - his temper is completely out of control! I really hope we see the back of him at the end of the series.
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Old 10-03-2013, 17:11
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Whatever it is, it won't be a patch on Spiral. I like this a lot more than any of the other European crime series (apart perhaps from series 1 of The Killing.)

Wow, Tintin has an award! That's pretty cool.
I found the scandinavian dramas a bit sterile to be honest.
police dramas from latin countries seem to have more gut feeling in them. I thought Romanzo Criminale would more likely have been a BBC4 rights drama than Sky Arts where it's being screened.
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Old 10-03-2013, 19:41
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Me, I prefer the Scandinavian dramas. This series of Spiral has not been as engrossing as the other 3. Don't know if I'm imagining it but it doesn't seem to have enough about the characters and their back stories etc.
Its started off really well with the open borders terrorists, then they tried to remake series 2 and I just don't see why.
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Old 10-03-2013, 19:46
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Its started off really well with the open borders terrorists, then they tried to remake series 2 and I just don't see why.
Nor me! It's still a top drama but I think a little more superficial when it comes to the main characters. And rather repetitive in the story line!! Still good but I'm not desperate for Sats any more!
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Old 10-03-2013, 21:39
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Old 10-03-2013, 22:49
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After last week's fantastic episodes I thought it got a bit lost again this week.

There seem to be too many storylines and characters. Are all the episodes written by the same people? In the past series I found Gilou a bit of a loveable rogue, then in the first half of this series he seemed to be a nasty idiot (plotting against Laure, getting mixed up with the Saharouis (whatever happened to them?)......etc). Now he's back to being nice again ?

I still think it's very good but it just seems to be, literally, losing the plot (now we have the lawyer being kidnapped by gypsies................?)
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:56
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Watched 4 episodes on Saturday, finally caught up.
My God LOVE this show so much. I totally agree with others, great minor characters, they should definitely give Roban his own spin off show, he is my favourite.
I am so intrigued by the rape cases to see who the rapist is? who are they covering up for? Is it a judge or a politician?

I am interested too as to how the immigrants botched kidnap and the Saharouis and the guns is all going to play out?
Will Gilou get caught out about the gun? I can't decide whether I want him to get away with it or not?
As for Tintin, my heart breaks for him, I suffered a spell of panic attacks some years ago, and it is extremely frightening and debilitating, hope he gets some help,
Really looking forward to the finale, but also don't want it to end.

Much as I love this show, I do feel they tried to cram in abit too much with the criminal stories aspect and I wouldn't mind seeing some or all of those angles examined in more depth. I'm not sure they needed both the immigrants and the Saharouis too, while they are hugely entertaining, you just feel that in the end they are going to have to skim over so much. And then there's the younger cocaine addicted brother who left Cretins body in the woods instead of burying it, that is going to have serious repercussions too.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:12
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Do we know what will be in the Euro-Crime slot after Spiral finishes next week??
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Old 11-03-2013, 15:51
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Old 11-03-2013, 21:10
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Is Herville really all that bad though??? I mean if I was Laure's boss I'd want to bring someone in to replace her


I hope the business with Nabil and the Sarahouis will come back to haunt Gilou as otherwise the whole storyline will have been an utter waste.
Herville's behaviour is appalling. If he has to replace Laure, he could at least do it with some decorum, and not embarrass Laure continually in front of her colleagues.
Incidentally, do you think she's a bad cop?

I was thinking the same, regarding the Sarahouis. As they've been arrested for Nabil's murder I wonder if that'll be the end of that ..,,,but then there's the problem with the gun.
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Old 11-03-2013, 21:16
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I think Herville is ghastly - obsequious little prat who just wants the quick result one way or the other in order to ingratiate himself with his superiors. Laure is indeed one of the blunder flics but he was blaming her for a couple of things she couldn't even help earlier in the series. He also seems to have 'small man syndrome' - jumping around and shouting his head off like a little terrier. He'll give himself a coronary one of these days - his temper is completely out of control! I really hope we see the back of him at the end of the series.


That could explain why Brix (TK) is so laid back and such a gentleman.
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