Don't try and pretend you weren't referencing Taylor Swift in your previous post, everyone knows you were. It's become a bitter and tired argument to read. And no I'm not an Adele fan before you start on me.

Shes the most critically acclaimed female artist in the world... but i wouldn't say shes THE biggest female artist.... shes AS big as the other current crop of superstars.. Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Katy Perry, Rihanna and Britney Spears. She shares their global mainstream standing.

Whats unique about Adele is she is lauded from punk artists to hard rock singers to pop stars... across the board.

Of the current crop of superstars, all of whom ive listed... i can see only Adele being a future rock hall of famer where she will take her place alongide the likes of Madonna.. another of which who lauds her work.

No reference to taylor swift at all anywhere from me, i just let the jealous adele stans bring her into every adele thread.

Some albums are just universally accepted as masterpieces those 2 albums certainly are.

And how can an album like 21 be classed as a masterpiece when even adele fans admit its 50% filler.

Well done, a post where every word is complete and utter nonsense.

Firstly you have no proof that the 2 albums you quote are "universally accepted as masterpieces", it's just your perception of them.

And unless you've spoke to every Adele fan your last sentence is just laughable....

I don't know any Adele fans that would say it's 20% filler, most like me, like every song on 21, some aren't a fan of DYR / Love song. That's it, pretty sure all the other songs are universally loved by Adele fans at least.

I genuinely believe Taylor Swift herself would be feel very uncomfortable reading some of GL's posts in Adele threads.

Using your favourite sentence....., that is all of course just your opinion.

Both those albums are universally accepted not because the number of albums they have sold but because of the most important thing and that is the music they contain, but of course if you dont agree, who cares, but thats the facts.
I have not heard one single artist acclaim adele is any shape or form but the fact that the album is 50% filler is a comment I have heard from many people, its an album that contains 3 or 4 songs, you know the ones played to death on the radio, the others.... well guess many could not even name the song titles.

JLP and COO are very rarely remembered for the number of albums they have sold, they are remembered for the simple fact they are classic albums from start to finish, with no weakness at all, one of a kind and of course COO was groundbreaking in new country music and inspired so many artists, including of course the wonderfully talented Ms. Swift.
21 will be rememebered for a while but only the number of albums it has sold, certainly not for the music, you only have to read through the adele sales thread to see that.

The test of a classic album is what its remembered for and thats why JLP/COO are classics and 21 isn't and never ever will be.

Its not a case of whether you like a song or not its the fact a song is classed as a classic, thats the difference between albums like 21 and COO/JLP.

You have to remember that a massive amount of sales of 21 have been bought by people who are not fans of adele, its maybe thier view that is more important as they are not fans of the artist so can give an unbiased view.
I know one adele fan but even she admits that 21 is certainly not a classic album and contains many average songs, but she ius just bein realistic, you can be a fan of an artist and still admit an album is not wonderful throughout.

Tell me, is your job to annoy every other member on digitalspy? Even people who aren't Adele fans are getting bored of your tedious and obvious hate for her. But guess what, WE ARE NOT BOTHERED!!!

Go troll on another forum somewhere! But stop wrecking are posting pleasures! Thankyou and bye!

You were alluding to her and you know it. Carry on with this weird thing you have going on, you do yourself great credit.

Simple fact is you don't like Adele and you simply lack the ability to post in a balanced and unbiased way when talking about her, or indeed when talking about artists you do like.

A perfect example is your comment above about those two albums containing "no weakness at all" that is JUST YOUR OPINION, no more, no less.

You have a strange, childlike quality to your postings, it's like the way you hear little kids arguing in the playground in primary school, sort of "I'm right, you're wrong, nah, nah, nah".

It's very bizarre behaviour indeed.

I dont like michael jackson but would never deny his thriller album was not a classic.
Liking an artist or not is irrelevant, if an albums a classic its a classic there is no real opinion on it as its a universal fact.
Along with many albums JLP and COO are classics, groundbreaking albums that have had an impact on many people, the music genre the albums are from and artists and professionals in the industry. They are albums that contain something special that sets them aside from the norm and stand the test of time. In fact its hard to even think of a recent classic album, you have to go back to maybe what the story by oasis to find the last real classic.

I know taylor is an amazing talent but she is not the only artist who plays to millions and has made a lot of money.
To be classed as the most successful artist you sure need to do more then just sell albums, thats not an opinion its a simple fact.

To answer the OP, we never know. Who'd have though Whitney could have topped her debut? Or that as a kid MJ would have Thriller. We never know. As long as she has great material, puts out lots of singles and does good promo, she could easily sell as much as she has now. She appeals to more than the average pop fan.

Why in a thread about a female artist does it nearly ALWAYS end up turning into a war between the artist in question and another female artist? Its pointless and boring :yawn:

Anyways, I don't think adele has too high expectations saleswise for album no. 3. For me personally, 21 has only 5 good songs but I'm not too keen on that style of music anyway so I hope I enjoy her next album more. It will be interesting to see how her next album performs though.

Well I'll just skip the opening line of your post to save time. Being a successful artist is not purely about money you do know that don't you? Kate Bush toured one, in 1979 and never again. Yet she regularly tops lists as this country's most influential female artist. You by all means obsess over who earned what and how, I'm going to stick to listening to the music. Which is the important thing. Or maybe you've forgotten that by immersing yourself in childish antagonism.

Oh and to say that the last real classic album was What's The Story is laughable. It just shows the musical knowledge you have and makes debating with you pointless. I genuinely wish I hadn't bothered.

Ok Computer
Is This It
Moon Safari
Grace
Whatever People Say I Am, That's What Im Not
Kid A
Melody AM
Funeral
Music Has The Right To Children

Just a minuscule collection of modern classics. Good call on the Oasis album.

Its worked. There is a saying..."don't feed the troll".. u are feeding it.

Now i have no idea whats gone on between you and the other poster (no offence to her but she seems rather odd) and i skimmed over her post as i couldnt understand a thing... but you (or Nige) are not doing her any good by responding. A troll gets worse and more pent up when folk respond.

The phenomenon continues.

Adele's '21' Heading Back to No. 1 for 24th Week.

http://www.billboard.com/news/adele-...06739952.story

"21 would become one of only eight albums to rack six months atop the list"


Closing in on half a year at #1... half a year. Staggering.

Its one thing being the most critically acclaimed female artist on the planet which sets her apart from the other current superstars Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Beyonce, Rihanna and Britney Spears, but its a sweet bonus to be destroying records in the process and beating all those ladies in the charts.

We send our congrats to Adele ... again.

My musical knowledge haha, the jokers are out tonight... not sure what your list is above not heard of even one of those albums or are they artists , clearly you have a different idea of what a classic album is to me and i guess the rest of the world. My educated guess on this is thats a list of your favourite albums that you have decided to call classics.
But back in the real world my comment still stands the last real classic album was whats the story although some might say that album was not good enough to be called a classic. its very borderline but think it would just sneak in as a classic legendary album.
Just like the word "music legend", the word "classic album" is being undermind by people calling any kind of garbage a classic album. Your list of albums above really proves that, take that list on the steet and find out just how many people would scratch their heads at that list, but arm yourself with the 3 albums i have mentioned here and the majority would know them.

People haven't heard of Radiohead, The Strokes, Jeff Buckley? I take my leave of this thread, it was too much to hope you'd know enough about music to have heard of them.

I have 2 of those albums, please come back.

You keep repeating this but I would like to know how you've come to that conclusion. Do you really think it's true or are you just trying to wind up the troll?

People may have heard of the artists but you have listed album tittles, its not so easy, all three artsits you have listed are somewhat niche, not everyone on the street will know them. I have only remembered ok computer is radiohead but only as you listed the band name.
There is no defined rule as to what makes an album a classic, but critical acclaim by music critics is often well down the list in the same way as it is with movies as its an opinion from a person nothing more or less. A more important view is the view of musicians who understand what has gone into making the album from a songwriting perspective, production, engineering e.t.c.
As i said above the word classic album/ masterpiece is thrown around way to much by music fans mostly in response to a album they like but when you get down to the nitty gritty very few albums can be classed in that category hence why i would put a question mark even over an album like whats the story being classed as a classic.