i think time will tell i love 21 though, but its put huge pressure on her for the third album! itll be peoples expectations that could make or break it imo

Metacritic scores:

Adele - 68 (19), 76 (21)
Lady Gaga - 71 (TF), 77 (TFM), 71* (BTW)

Beyonce - 64 (DIL), 70 (B'D), 62 (IASF), 73 (4)
Rihanna - 72 (GGGB), 75 (RR), 67 (L), 64 (TTT)
Britney Spears - 72 (O!IDIA), 58 (Br), 66 (ITZ), 61 (Bl), 64 (C), 67 (FF).
Katy Perry - 47 (OOTB), 52 (TD)

And that's just the mentioned. There are many more female artists who have higher critical acclaim than Adele.




* This would have been higher had one review not given BTW a score of 0 which dragged it down.

Don't quite get your last sentence...Its not a case what i "think is true"... its not my opinion. Its akin to stating The Beates are the most critically acclaimed band ever.. that wouldnt be my opinion either, i'd be repeating fact.

Regarding the troll.. i haven't come across her before and have no idea what her irate bitter ramblings are about (others in the forum respond i see).. shes very angry over something. Whilst it would be easy to wind her up it wouldn't do her any good... trolls crave attention (probably starved of it) so best ignore.

metacritic. LOL

Oh dear... straws.. clutching.... at. (and Gaga? pmsl.. wasn't she sat on her behind all night as Adele walked up to pick up one Grammy after another?)

Let me pluck out an equally ridiculed source.... Rolling Stone... scored Kurt Cobain 84 places higher than Angus Young in its 100 greatest guitarists.

Q Magazine critics... scored The Beatles at #8.. two places lower than Dire Straits.


Behave.

What?? who doesn't like Don't You Remember?? That song is amazing! That climax...! "Bring you back to meee (Silence)... WHYYYYY DON'T YOU REMEMBER-R-R-RRRR" oh god it's good. then the staccato'd "the. reas.on. you. loved. me." and i just want to stomp my foot and shit.

My least favorites are Love Song and He Won't Go.

There is no way to determine who is "the most critically acclaimed female act". It only comes down to who the individual spouting such claims puts their faith behind, i.e. Grammys or critics. Both are flawed.

Totally correct and as you say critics are very flawed as its just their opinion.
Its the same old thing as who is the best guitarist or drummer e.t.c in the world, its impossible to say.

For it to be a fact and not just your opinion you need to come up with some evidence. Sales and mainstream awards are not critical opinion.

Nope... then there wouldnt be any way to determine who is the "most critically acclaimed band".. "critically acclaimed guitarist". etc etc.

You do so by looking across the board.. not plucking out one laughable source.

Is Kurt Cobain a better guitarist than Angus Young? Obviously not but RS says he is.

Nothing is definitive (i'm sure there are those who think Showaddywaddy are better than The Beatles)... however there is across the board.

Let's just be happy for all these people who seem nice enough, alright!

You really can't compare any of the aforementioned women to adele. their styles are just so different. and i do think that's part of her success. she provided a nice antidote to their bubblegum pop. she's like a nice healthy chicken sandwich after eating nothing but candy all day. i think she just filled a necessary void in pop music.

but will her next album do as well? Probably not. It depends on a lot of factors, but I think a big one is when she releases it. also, she'll have the tricky task of doing something new, but not something so different that it alienates her fanbase. But she acknowledges that she just stands there and sings.. so as long as people accept that and expect similar songs, she might do ok. otherwise there might be backlash for "all of her songs sounding the same".

...and what do you mean by "across the board"? How are you going to measure that one? Sounds accurate.

and cherry picking one laughable source is?

If i took your method... i would pluck out the Rolling Stone list and say... "look....there are many more guitarists that have higher acclaim than Angus Young"

Regards universal acclaim, 21 dwarfs every other album out there...and its across the board that best measures acclaim.

Seems to be not based on anything other than a general feeling he/she has but apparently that makes it fact, lol.

The nonsense posted on this forum by people blinded by either love or hate of an artist never ceases to amaze me.

You're clearly contradicting yourself here. You admit that you have a different view of a 'classic album' to other people and 'guessing' that the rest of the world agrees about classic albums is not really a good debate/argument to back up your statement. Therefore if you admit classic albums are subject to opinion, why do you insist on shooting down anyone who thinks 21 is a classic album? Why you can't you see it as their opinion and move on instead of constantly posting on these forums. I barely post on these forums but always find your posts incredibly annoying and can't see other people's opinions on an album.

I don't understand why you guys constantly say geordielady is nonsensical/annoying/etc yet continually engage in conversation with her.

You do know a Metacritic score is calculated from the average of 30 odd reviews (including respected outlets), right? It's not a singular opinion, or even an opinion decided on by a committee.

Sales and popularity don't equal critical acclaim. Critical acclaim equals critical acclaim.

Have to agree. The amount of opinions masquerading as facts on here is staggering.

I think Adele has definitely peaked but what a peak it was/is.

firstly you brought taylor into the topic

"has she done a wold wide tour playing to millions.. No, has she earned the most money "

who were you talking about if not taylor?

heres anothe quote from you about taylor
"crazy thing to do considering taylor is in a totally different league and class to Adele in every aspect."
in what way is she in a different league?
adele has sold more copies of 21 than taylor has sold of her three albums
she has had more success in the singles charts than taylor
more success at the grammys
sold more records around the world than taylor so is more famous worldwide
if the only thing you can cling to is that taylor had a tour in a year when adele didnt tour then you are absolutley pathetic

the fact you have not heard of those albums just highlights your lack of musical knowledge, whats the story morning glory was crap by a mediocre rock band with no originality who had used up all their decent ideas on definately maybe (which is the only oasis album that could possibly be considered a classic) jagged little pill was ok, a four out of five album with plenty of filler also, perfect, right through you, forgiven, wake up

the simple fact is if you went out on the street and asked people more would know who adele is than taylor swift and that applies in every country around the world - that doesnt seem to be the best way to judge if adeles album is better than taylor swifts stuff but that is what you are suggesting we should do

so going by your reasoning as the grammys are voted on by producers and musicians, as adeles has won more grammys than taylor swift including record of the year for 21 , that must mean 21 is better than any album taylor swift has made, glad you agree

metacritic is a decent broad indicator of critics views, however it doesnt include scores from the same sources for every artist meaning that there are issues with its accuracy i imagine if the likes of rhianna, taylor swift etc had been reviewed by the likes of the nme their combined scores would be a lot lower

Yup. Definitely flawed, but the only real measurer of critical acclaim we have.

im not going to argue with that but any idiot can see that adele is more succesful in the singles and albums charts in every country around the world including america than taylor swift, the records she has broken in every music market round the world show that she is the most succesful recording artist around at the moment (in a few months, 21 will have outsold every album since the beatles no 1's in 2000) she has made a vastly popular album that will probably end up in the top 20 best selling albums of all time and will be considered a classic in years to come, in terms of critical acclaim her album has won the best album award in america and britain as well as bieng nominated for the mercury prize as well as finishing higher in critics end of year lists and achieving more cirtical acclim than taylor swift - does anyone think that taylor swift is a bigger artist than adele apart from geordielady - she is totally deluded

end of year lists, awards etc are all measures of critical acclaim in which adele has achieved more succes than rhianna, taylor swift, britany spears and all the rest apart from possibly beyonce although im not sure about that