I was gonna come in here with a nice reply about how nobody will know whether she'll match her success and how nobody thought she'd match the success of 19, but then I read this thread and all this real music bollocks and I'm not interested anymore.
Will Adele peak after 21?
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Originally Posted by chjw:
“You're clearly contradicting yourself here. You admit that you have a different view of a 'classic album' to other people and 'guessing' that the rest of the world agrees about classic albums is not really a good debate/argument to back up your statement. Therefore if you admit classic albums are subject to opinion, why do you insist on shooting down anyone who thinks 21 is a classic album? Why you can't you see it as their opinion and move on instead of constantly posting on these forums. I barely post on these forums but always find your posts incredibly annoying and can't see other people's opinions on an album.”
“You're clearly contradicting yourself here. You admit that you have a different view of a 'classic album' to other people and 'guessing' that the rest of the world agrees about classic albums is not really a good debate/argument to back up your statement. Therefore if you admit classic albums are subject to opinion, why do you insist on shooting down anyone who thinks 21 is a classic album? Why you can't you see it as their opinion and move on instead of constantly posting on these forums. I barely post on these forums but always find your posts incredibly annoying and can't see other people's opinions on an album.”
Cant recall saying classic albums are people opinions at all, classic albums are often accepted as classics even by people who dont like the artist.
A classic album normally has to make a unique impact or is a "game changer" in the music genre its in, it inspires other artists, is normally faultless musically from start to finish with no weak tracks on the album along with the more technical side of things like production, engineering e.t.c but dont wanna start confusing people by talking about these areas.
As i have said before the word classic album or masterpeice is well over used mostly by people to try to blag up their artist or favourite album, simular overuse is the word legend.
Real classic albums dont come along very often only a handful in a decade if your lucky and are normally the pinicle of the artists career, an album never to be bettered by that artist.
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Cant recall saying classic albums are people opinions at all, classic albums are often accepted as classics even by people who dont like the artist.
A classic album normally has to make a unique impact or is a "game changer" in the music genre its in, it inspires other artists, is normally faultless musically from start to finish with no weak tracks on the album along with the more technical side of things like production, engineering e.t.c but dont wanna start confusing people by talking about these areas.
As i have said before the word classic album or masterpeice is well over used mostly by people to try to blag up their artist or favourite album, simular overuse is the word legend.
Real classic albums dont come along very often only a handful in a decade if your lucky and are normally the pinicle of the artists career, an album never to be bettered by that artist.”
“Cant recall saying classic albums are people opinions at all, classic albums are often accepted as classics even by people who dont like the artist.
A classic album normally has to make a unique impact or is a "game changer" in the music genre its in, it inspires other artists, is normally faultless musically from start to finish with no weak tracks on the album along with the more technical side of things like production, engineering e.t.c but dont wanna start confusing people by talking about these areas.
As i have said before the word classic album or masterpeice is well over used mostly by people to try to blag up their artist or favourite album, simular overuse is the word legend.
Real classic albums dont come along very often only a handful in a decade if your lucky and are normally the pinicle of the artists career, an album never to be bettered by that artist.”
so what would you class as a classic album since 2000
my list would include
the strokes - is this it
arcade fire - the funeral
radiohead - kid a
adele - 21
florence and the machine - lungs
sigur ros - Ágætis Byrjun
interpol - antics
vampire weekend - vampire weekend
the killers - hot fuss
Originally Posted by robo2:
“so what would you class as a classic album since 2000
my list would include
the strokes - is this it
arcade fire - the funeral
radiohead - kid a
adele - 21
florence and the machine - lungs
sigur ros - Ágætis Byrjun
interpol - antics
vampire weekend - vampire weekend
the killers - hot fuss”
“so what would you class as a classic album since 2000
my list would include
the strokes - is this it
arcade fire - the funeral
radiohead - kid a
adele - 21
florence and the machine - lungs
sigur ros - Ágætis Byrjun
interpol - antics
vampire weekend - vampire weekend
the killers - hot fuss”
None of those have had an iota of an impact on music or the music genre they are from, surely just a list of your favs.
So yet again its turned into a stan war.
You can't ever ascertain as to what is the best guitarist or a classic album etc etc a its down to opinion people consider Whats the story a classic i do not some consider this is it i would agree because its all to subject opinion and usually people don't share the same ones but think that their opinion is the only one.
So anyway Adele has peaked in terms of commercial sales its impossible to surpass 21 but her career wont founder if she continues to create great music and doesn't duet with david guetta
You can't ever ascertain as to what is the best guitarist or a classic album etc etc a its down to opinion people consider Whats the story a classic i do not some consider this is it i would agree because its all to subject opinion and usually people don't share the same ones but think that their opinion is the only one.
So anyway Adele has peaked in terms of commercial sales its impossible to surpass 21 but her career wont founder if she continues to create great music and doesn't duet with david guetta
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“None of those have had an iota of an impact on music or the music genre they are from, surely just a list of your favs.”
“None of those have had an iota of an impact on music or the music genre they are from, surely just a list of your favs.”
The Strokes debut had a massive impact on its genre, influencing all manner of bands. You're just showing your lack of knowledge.
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“None of those have had an iota of an impact on music or the music genre they are from, surely just a list of your favs.”
“None of those have had an iota of an impact on music or the music genre they are from, surely just a list of your favs.”
they are considered classic albums by critics and musicians alike and had a massive impact on music and the genres from which they are from, whats your list? still waiting
Originally Posted by robo2:
“they are considered classic albums by critics and musicians alike and had a massive impact on music and the genres from which they are from, whats your list? still waiting”
“they are considered classic albums by critics and musicians alike and had a massive impact on music and the genres from which they are from, whats your list? still waiting”
Its gonna take more than a hack to tell me what a classic album is, i have never heard any musician publically say any of those albums are classics, am not disputing some of them on the list are not great albums but big gap between great and classic and by calling those albums classic's is undermining those albums that are real classics. People are too willing to tag an album a classic or an artist a legend without giving it any real thought.
Singles is a different matter there have been loads of classic singles but the difference between making a classic single and a classic album are worlds apart.
I cant answer your question as since 2000 there has not been a real classic album, we are certainly overdue one.
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Its gonna take more than a hack to tell me what a classic album is, i have never heard any musician publically say any of those albums are classics, am not disputing some of them on the list are not great albums but big gap between great and classic and by calling those albums classic's is undermining those albums that are real classics. People are too willing to tag an album a classic or an artist a legend without giving it any real thought.
Singles is a different matter there have been loads of classic singles but the difference between making a classic single and a classic album are worlds apart.
I cant answer your question as since 2000 there has not been a real classic album, we are certainly overdue one.”
“Its gonna take more than a hack to tell me what a classic album is, i have never heard any musician publically say any of those albums are classics, am not disputing some of them on the list are not great albums but big gap between great and classic and by calling those albums classic's is undermining those albums that are real classics. People are too willing to tag an album a classic or an artist a legend without giving it any real thought.
Singles is a different matter there have been loads of classic singles but the difference between making a classic single and a classic album are worlds apart.
I cant answer your question as since 2000 there has not been a real classic album, we are certainly overdue one.”
I disagree with in the industry This is it is considered a standard a bench mark and a classic as it redefined a genre an ushered in the indie trend through out the nougthies without it no The Killers, arctic monkey's etc etc
And in some respects Back To Black by some not all is considered a classic again for reasons stated above and its overall impact you could trace the current set and trend of females right back to it but in the same way it depends how somebody gauges what it is to be a classic some just are i.e dark side of the moon others are disputed whats the story
Originally Posted by alison1111:
“What?? who doesn't like Don't You Remember?? That song is amazing! That climax...! "Bring you back to meee (Silence)... WHYYYYY DON'T YOU REMEMBER-R-R-RRRR" oh god it's good. then the staccato'd "the. reas.on. you. loved. me." and i just want to stomp my foot and shit.
My least favorites are Love Song and He Won't Go.”
“What?? who doesn't like Don't You Remember?? That song is amazing! That climax...! "Bring you back to meee (Silence)... WHYYYYY DON'T YOU REMEMBER-R-R-RRRR" oh god it's good. then the staccato'd "the. reas.on. you. loved. me." and i just want to stomp my foot and shit.
My least favorites are Love Song and He Won't Go.”
That song is the one I hate..it just drags ON...
Originally Posted by geordielady:
“Its gonna take more than a hack to tell me what a classic album is, i have never heard any musician publically say any of those albums are classics, am not disputing some of them on the list are not great albums but big gap between great and classic and by calling those albums classic's is undermining those albums that are real classics. People are too willing to tag an album a classic or an artist a legend without giving it any real thought.
Singles is a different matter there have been loads of classic singles but the difference between making a classic single and a classic album are worlds apart.
I cant answer your question as since 2000 there has not been a real classic album, we are certainly overdue one.”
“Its gonna take more than a hack to tell me what a classic album is, i have never heard any musician publically say any of those albums are classics, am not disputing some of them on the list are not great albums but big gap between great and classic and by calling those albums classic's is undermining those albums that are real classics. People are too willing to tag an album a classic or an artist a legend without giving it any real thought.
Singles is a different matter there have been loads of classic singles but the difference between making a classic single and a classic album are worlds apart.
I cant answer your question as since 2000 there has not been a real classic album, we are certainly overdue one.”
so what would you suggest have been classic albums then - apart from alanis morrisette and oasis
Originally Posted by iseloid:
“That song is the one I hate..it just drags ON...”
“That song is the one I hate..it just drags ON...”
if it helps (im in the minority im guessing) never really got into 21 i much prefer 19 and still listen to it whereas 21 kind of shits on the shelf or shuffle through on my ipod but do like DYR
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“if it helps (im in the minority im guessing) never really got into 21 i much prefer 19 and still listen to it whereas 21 kind of shits on the shelf or shuffle through on my ipod but do like DYR”
“if it helps (im in the minority im guessing) never really got into 21 i much prefer 19 and still listen to it whereas 21 kind of shits on the shelf or shuffle through on my ipod but do like DYR”
I much prefer 19 too. 21 is good but I only tend to put it on in the background when I'm doing something else like cooking etc. I never find myself wanting to actually sit down and listen to it like I did with 19.
Originally Posted by lumiere:
“I much prefer 19 too. 21 is good but I only tend to put it on in the background when I'm doing something else like cooking etc. I never find myself wanting to actually sit down and listen to it like I did with 19.”
“I much prefer 19 too. 21 is good but I only tend to put it on in the background when I'm doing something else like cooking etc. I never find myself wanting to actually sit down and listen to it like I did with 19.”
Yes bad typo there Konebyvax
And i know i dont know what it is i think there is a continual sound on 21 whereas 19 has more variation i just prefer its jazzier sound
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“Yes bad typo there Konebyvax
And i know i dont know what it is i think there is a continual sound on 21 whereas 19 has more variation i just prefer its jazzier sound”
“Yes bad typo there Konebyvax
And i know i dont know what it is i think there is a continual sound on 21 whereas 19 has more variation i just prefer its jazzier sound”
I agree! 19 had a really unique vibe at times-- jazzy, and at times, sounding a bit reggae-ish.
They definitely made 21 more mainstream friendly.. and holy hell did it work!!
Originally Posted by alison1111:
“I agree! 19 had a really unique vibe at times-- jazzy, and at times, sounding a bit reggae-ish.
They definitely made 21 more mainstream friendly.. and holy hell did it work!!”
“I agree! 19 had a really unique vibe at times-- jazzy, and at times, sounding a bit reggae-ish.
They definitely made 21 more mainstream friendly.. and holy hell did it work!!”
it was just a different vibe totally of its own.
and yes it was more streamlined less imperfect but hey it worked indedd
She's amazing, she'll never peak! She's clearly one of the greats and will keep putting out quality music
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“if it helps (im in the minority im guessing) never really got into 21 i much prefer 19 and still listen to it whereas 21 kind of shits on the shelf or shuffle through on my ipod but do like DYR”
“if it helps (im in the minority im guessing) never really got into 21 i much prefer 19 and still listen to it whereas 21 kind of shits on the shelf or shuffle through on my ipod but do like DYR”
It's funny, I really prefer 19. Nicer to blast out as a whole. I listen to various 21 tracks but not the whole album.
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