[MikeAP001]

My guess: Gwen's in black because she's become DARK GWEN! But, we'll have to wait until the SDCC 2012:

http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/headli...2012-confirmed

And, it looks like Merlin's got a new look too:

http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/galler...an-in-series-5

[Oceanneil]

removed until i get the spoiler tag to work, so sorry, dont mean to spam up this board. im new. please dont shout at me

[Oceanneil]

ive removed as could be spoilery i tried the flag thing and didnt seem to work, dont want to get told off

[Avi8]

Oceanneil, I'll try to help you. To write a message in spoiler tags, click on the "Go advanced" button below where you write your message. Up will come a new box, with a toolbar above it. The far right icon is a faint S. Click on that, and the word SPOILER will apppear twice in your text box. Then, all you have to do is write your spoiler within the 2 words. You can then click on the preview post button under the message box to make sure your post looks right and the spoiler part has worked. Hope that helps.

[Lowri]

No one is going to shout at you. This thread has experienced disagreements and caps lock overuse in the past, but we're a nice bunch really

For a newbie, I would recommend doing spoiler tags in the advanced reply screen. Right at the end of the row at the top, next to the piece of paper with "php" written on it, is a S. If you click on it, you get the two spoiler tags and you can put your text in between them. Otherwise, select the text you want and then click the "S".

Spoiler

Like this

If you click on "quote" at the bottom of my post, you should be able to see how the tags work. You may find it useful to copy and past my "spoiler" and then start a new message putting your own words in of course!

We were all newbies once!

ETA: Beaten to it Avi8 brings up a very good point about using preview, I hadn't thought of that because I usually just post and edit later!

[Cadiva]

Originally Posted by MikeAP001

And, it looks like Merlin's got a new look too:

http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/galler...an-in-series-5

I'm not seeing a new look for Merlin? His outfit looks like the same one he's been wearing since series one.

[Lowri]

Originally Posted by Cadiva

I'm not seeing a new look for Merlin? His outfit looks like the same one he's been wearing since series one.

As far as I can tell it is!! Mighty nice picture though

[MikeAP001]

Originally Posted by Lowri

As far as I can tell it is!! Mighty nice picture though

The references were for his hair, as I can tell. In season one, he had a bowl-type haircut. Season 2, he had shorter hair and even shorter hair in season 3 with no bangs. Season 4 saw the return of the bangs but more stylized. Season 5 sees him look more like season 1.

The speculation had been that with S04E13, Merlin's new clothes might mean a newer and better position in Arthur's Court but I had a bet/argument with some people that given the events of S04, Merlin hadn't developed much and that his character had been stunted while the others including Gwen, Arthur, and Morgana had developed to a much greater degree.

But, it's not all that bad according to SFX, among the 200 Sexiest Characters in Science Fiction are: Merlin (#15), Gwen (#13), Arthur (#11), and Morgana (#6). Still I wonder: Mary Jane Smith of Dr. Who was #100 as was the Doctor; but no Tegan? What kind of list is that?

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/03/27/top-...ers-in-sci-fi/

One last bit, there'll be an official set of behind the scenes vids on youtube from the makers of MERLIN (though it might be after Comic Con--- I guess that's one of the big teases for the fans).

[lil_miss_blonde]

Originally Posted by GBali

I'm sure that Merlin's budget is much bigger than that, it must be more than £1m per episode.

Thats more the budget per epsiode yes.. Its a big job


.

Spoiler

Does she make a pact with Morgana?

You'l just have to wait and see

Originally Posted by switzerland

Oh boo, another enchantment? Well let's hope this time they figure out she's not herself if that's the case. I'm still peeved about the stupid bracelet.

Im annoyed about the bracelet too!! Im hoping that somewhere in Morgana's redemption she does tell Arthur and Gwen that she enchanted her and Lancelot.

[GBali]

Strange, but I would be more annoyed if they had found the bracelet. Always in opposition.

Don't give up, Oceanneil! Test the spoiler tag without actual spoilers. Using the preview function is a good idea.

[lil_miss_blonde]

Originally Posted by Oceanneil

ive removed as could be spoilery i tried the flag thing and didnt seem to work, dont want to get told off

Its really easy to do the spoiler tags

Write the whole spoiler/everything you want to be hidden in Spoiler tags.

Highlight it.

Then above all the smilies, slighty to the left, top hand corner is a faded out S next to the php. Click the S and it will put the words you highlighted into spoiler tags..

Spoiler

Da Dah

[MikeAP001]

Originally Posted by lil_miss_blonde

...
Im annoyed about the bracelet too!! Im hoping that somewhere in Morgana's redemption she does tell Arthur and Gwen that she enchanted her and Lancelot.

Well, if there is a redemptive arc for Morgana then I can cross that off my list, too. And, it appears, that those beyond TPTB (TBTPTB--- those beyond the powers that be) are listening to the wishes of the fans.

Anyway, I wouldn't want to see the bracelet revealed, yet. I'd do it for S06 or later because it would be a good way to bring Lancelot back.

[Cadiva]

Originally Posted by MikeAP001

Anyway, I wouldn't want to see the bracelet revealed, yet. I'd do it for S06 or later because it would be a good way to bring Lancelot back.

They've pretty much all but said Lancelot is dead, buried and never coming back.

@WRMiller2 asks: Why was it necessary to eliminate Lancelot from the series? Did you consider recasting the role?

"We didn’t think of recasting, no. I’d still never say never about Lancelot, but he’s returned from the dead once, I think that’ll have to be it! He’s a great character and I think Santiago [Cabrera] played him brilliantly, but I think it’s best left there."

Source.

[MikeAP001]

Originally Posted by Cadiva

They've pretty much all but said Lancelot is dead, buried and never coming back.

Yes, but he also said (regarding bringing Morgause):

A: "Who knows?? There's no such thing as real death in Merlin."

The same should hold for old Lance. Though I'd really like to know if there were bad terms on Santiago Cabrera leaving the show.

[GBali]

I think Lancelot might return once more as the knight of the lake, but series 5 would be too soon.
I always tell myself that the lady of the lake is guarding poor Lancelot in Avalon, and that she can bring him back when he is truly needed, just as she brought back Excalibur.
It would be nice to see these two characters connected some way, as they are connected in many legends.

[TLC1098]

Originally Posted by GBali

I think Lancelot might return once more as the knight of the lake, but series 5 would be too soon.
I always tell myself that the lady of the lake is guarding poor Lancelot in Avalon, and that she can bring him back when he is truly needed, just as she brought back Excalibur.
It would be nice to see these two characters connected some way, as they are connected in many legends.

Lancelot has to come back because Arthur and the knights think he betrayed Camelot and this situation has to get sorted.

[Cadiva]

Originally Posted by MikeAP001

Yes, but he also said (regarding bringing Morgause):

A: "Who knows?? There's no such thing as real death in Merlin."

The same should hold for old Lance. Though I'd really like to know if there were bad terms on Santiago Cabrera leaving the show.

Yes, but that's not the same thing. He said they've already resurrected Lancelot once, which they haven't with Morgause.

I've also not heard of there being any bad feelings or Santiago leaving on bad terms either, they were aware from when they first signed him to play Lancelot that he had other TV commitments.

Originally Posted by GBali

I think Lancelot might return once more as the knight of the lake, but series 5 would be too soon.
I always tell myself that the lady of the lake is guarding poor Lancelot in Avalon, and that she can bring him back when he is truly needed, just as she brought back Excalibur.
It would be nice to see these two characters connected some way, as they are connected in many legends.

Indeed, in most of the legends Lancelot is the son of the Lady of the Lake. Obviously they haven't followed that version of the stories though. It would be nice to think of him and Freya off in the other world telling stories of Merlin though.
They may go down the Galahad role though to return someone connected with Lancelot as he is his son, and the purest knight of Camelot, with Elaine of Corbenic, the daughter of the Fisher King Pelles. It's unlikely they'd use that version though, having had the Fisher King, so they may connect him to Elaine of Astolat instead, inspiration for Tennyson's Lady of Shallot.

Originally Posted by TLC1098

Lancelot has to come back because Arthur and the knights think he betrayed Camelot and this situation has to get sorted.

Well Lancelot does betray Camelot (and Arthur) in the legends with his affair with Guinevere so they may feel they've simply given a different retelling of the story

[Oceanneil]

Thank you guys, there's another forum that has Merlin on and I'm frightened to even read it in case I'm looking at it wrong, the moderator is that picky.

This is on the subject of Gwen and the dress,

Spoiler

There's only three people she would wear black for, Arthur, Elyan or Merlin. So clearly Elyan dies. And I reckon It is at Mordreds hands

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[ivyteainn]

Originally Posted by TLC1098

Lancelot has to come back because Arthur and the knights think he betrayed Camelot and this situation has to get sorted.

Lancelot has already fulfilled his legendary role of betraying Arthur and having a secret romance with Guinevere. The TV program gave you another twist on it. Since Lancelot by legend really did carry out the deed; there really isn't any need to clear this up further. Arthur has clearly forgiven Gwen. Lancelot has returned from the dead once, that's enough. It would hurt the storyline if dead people kept coming back to life. Personally, I'm sorry that they wrote Lancelot out of the story so early, but what is done is done.

[ivyteainn]

Originally Posted by Oceanneil

Thank you guys, there's another forum that has Merlin on and I'm frightened to even read it in case I'm looking at it wrong, the moderator is that picky.

This is on the subject of Gwen and the dress,

Spoiler

There's only three people she would wear black for, Arthur, Elyan or Merlin. So clearly Elyan dies. And I reckon It is at Mordreds hands

.

It could be possible that maybe that Gwen thinks that someone is dead and they aren't really dead.

[lil_miss_blonde]

Originally Posted by Oceanneil

Thank you guys, there's another forum that has Merlin on and I'm frightened to even read it in case I'm looking at it wrong, the moderator is that picky.

This is on the subject of Gwen and the dress,

Spoiler

There's only three people she would wear black for, Arthur, Elyan or Merlin. So clearly Elyan dies. And I reckon It is at Mordreds hands

.

There ya go, told you spoilers were easy

Originally Posted by ivyteainn

It could be possible that maybe that Gwen thinks that someone is dead and they aren't really dead.

Wearing black isn't just a sign of mourning...

[Cadiva]

Originally Posted by lil_miss_blonde

Wearing black isn't just a sign of mourning...

She's a witch, she's a witch (queue Monty Python sketch)

[MikeAP001]

Originally Posted by lil_miss_blonde

Wearing black isn't just a sign of mourning...

So, that means that either we'll have a Dark Gwen episode or some sort of Gwen Quest where we think she's a villain; OR as suggested, Gwen's making a fashion statement. If a villain, I hope she's not a supernatural one like vampire which is getting tired though a stake burning scene with torches and a bonfire for a witch would look nice.

Maybe the writers could explain what Morgana brought up in S01: if those with Magic are so powerful, how did Uther vanquish them during the great purge?

[Chihiro94]

Originally Posted by lil_miss_blonde

There ya go, told you spoilers were easy



Wearing black isn't just a sign of mourning...

Please be evil Gwen. Never really liked her, and if she's going to get in the way of Arthur and Merlin then at least let her be interesting and not just same old innocent and pure unless under enchament Gwen.

[MikeAP001]

Originally Posted by Chihiro94

Please be evil Gwen. Never really liked her, and if she's going to get in the way of Arthur and Merlin then at least let her be interesting and not just same old innocent and pure unless under enchament Gwen.

I found this pic of Gwen in Black:

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/merlin-o...s-baddie-photo

Frankly, I don't like the black dress much.