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So The Voice will no be over by 7.40, leaving the whole evening free for BGT, yet they've confirmed to start at 6.30.
Stupid scheduling by both channels here. What a mess. |
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The age profile of The Voice Uk results V Countryfile is extraordinary. They really don't go together
![]() ![]() It was a really odd Sunday night schedule from the Beeb. This week is much better with Planet Earth Live which I'm very much looking forward to.
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You would surely have thought so. Depending on how long The Voice is they could even avoid any overlap and be done by 10pm.
The silence from ITV Press Centre is deafening though. And time is running out to meet the press deadlines. Tick, tock... |
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Sam Hodges excuse for not starting at 9: Quote:
@guestofseth @RobinThomasUK @Sknowles3 Starting at 9pm would have meant finishing at 10.35pm - really late for many fans of the show.
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@guestofseth @RobinThomasUK @Sknowles3 Starting at 9pm would have meant finishing at 10.35pm - really late for many fans of the show. 4:22 PM - 2 May 12 via web Can't agree with you there Sam, 6:10pm is too early on the other hand. |
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So The Voice will no be over by 7.40, leaving the whole evening free for BGT, yet they've confirmed to start at 6.30.
Stupid scheduling by both channels here. What a mess. But yes foolish schedules overall, both shows will be down quite a bit. And thats down off the back of some poor weather Nor even taking into account the shape of the talent by that stage. |
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Sam Hodges excuse for not starting at 9:
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So BGT will be wrapped up and finished and it'll still be daylight in a lot of places. That's probably going to be a bigger factor than they realise, even if it's not sunny. People go home when it's dark.
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Sam Hodges: #TheVoiceUK confirmed for 6.10pm on Saturday, May 12th #BBC1
Source: Twitter @Sam_Hodges Seems ridiculously early to me. I feel there may just be a whiff of panic at ITV Towers right now... |
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This puts even more interest into the perfomance of the build up BGT shows as a marker for its finale figure.
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Of course Sam is right. If they were concerned that a same night results show wasn't going to rate as well as it could later in the evening, they were never going to go with a 10.35pm finish for the main show. It would make the pre-recorded Sunday results show look even more silly.
Going back to the demos again, The Voice has around 1.3m viewers aged 15 or under on Saturday nights. They would effectively be cutting the show off to most of these if it were to finish as late as 10.35, a good two hours later than normal. The best it could hope for would be to retain around 400k here, so it would have to add nearly a million older viewers leading out of the BGT final to make up for it. At 6.10 anyone can watch it and it gives people the option of recording BGT and watching it after The Voice so they can fast-forward through the near endless adverts and filler. It's got to be better for the audience as a whole as both shows could be watched by 10pm at the very latest. So my conclusion is neither scenario is ideal, but what choice did they have? ITV made more attractive scheduling impossible. An earlier start is preferable to a really late one for a family show like this. |
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At 6.10 anyone can watch it and it gives people the option of recording BGT and watching it after The Voice so they can fast-forward through the near endless adverts and filler. It's got to be better for the audience as a whole as both shows could be watched by 10pm at the very latest. So my conclusion is neither scenario is ideal, but what choice did they have? ITV made more attractive scheduling impossible. An earlier start is preferable to a really late one for a family show like this. |
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I've just received an update from C5. They've moved CSI: NY from 9.00 to 9.30 and the boxing from 10.00 to 10.30. This could be an indication that ITV have made some changes.
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I've just received an update from C5. They've moved CSI: NY from 9.00 to 9.30 and the boxing from 10.00 to 10.30. This could be an indication that ITV have made some changes.
Probably just wishful thinking. |
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I can't seem them erasing the overlap altogether. ITV will fancy doing a bit of damage on finale night if they can, their last chance to do so. Viewers who have followed the remaining acts all week are not going to just suddenly not watch the final. Maybe 7.15-9.45? Only a 25m clash then.
The silence from ITV Press Centre is deafening though. And time is running out to meet the press deadlines. Tick, tock... * The only way I can see BGT beating The Voice in an overlap is if the overlap is quite significant. And I'm not sure how long that would be, there are no guarantees and obviously the longer the overlap the worse the overall average for BGT. I'm not sure the good PR is really worth it! |
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DS were a day late but it had 759k/3.1% excluding +1. Obviously not where they'd like it to be, nearly 25% below the target of a million, but it's only a drop of about 100,000 on last week against the highest rating league match of the season. I expected it to be dented a lot more than that.
On the same Monday last year it had a lower share of 3% and a near identical audience of 774k against more mundane competition, but it was much further into its run. At its lowest point during this run last year, it had only 538k/2% opposite the BGT semi-finals, a challenge it will have to face again next week. I think the worst you could say about its figures at the moment is, it hasn't really improved upon the old figures. But with a much shorter 6 week run there is every possibility that the lows of last year will not be repeated. Its also a bank holiday but the show is again repeated a few times to. |
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Totally agree, beyond stupid imo.I bet ITV will shift to 7.30 -10
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* The only way I can see BGT beating The Voice in an overlap is if the overlap is quite significant. And I'm not sure how long that would be, there are no guarantees and obviously the longer the overlap the worse the overall average for BGT. I'm not sure the good PR is really worth it!
It'll be interesting to hear how people find the semi-finals (I don't watch the semi's - but I might if the dog act is on) One big problem for the finale? The early acts have a MASSIVE disadvantage. The same can't be said for The Voice as likely everyone will be under the same pressure of a lower audience - which won't mean any sudden peaks in the show. PS: I've said before, BGT can't gain from a clash because ad breaks mean The Voice gains. Such a long clash means those breakdowns will be interesting. Can't see advertisers happy. Its so unnecessary. |
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Update: Britain's Got Talent - The Live Final: 7.30pm Saturday 12 May on @ITV1. @GotTalent #BGT 5:42 PM - 2 May 12 |
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Just a 15 minute clash. ITV have a free run more or less. They are good at getting it their own way scheduling wise, aren't they?
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So did ITV just want to push The Voice as early as possible? That 6.10pm start surely won't do it any favours, and with just a 15 minute overlap BGT won't be dented too badly.
TBH I've found this whole scheduling war incredibly tedious and self-indulgent. Despite claims of it being about finding the best slot for 'the audience' it hasn't really been about the audience at all, it's been about ego and bragging rights. |
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Damned if they kept it where it was, damned if they move it...
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Thought as much:
"@LeighHolmwood: ITV had asked the BBC to move #thevoiceuk to 6pm to cut the overlap further but were rebuffed" https://twitter.com/#!/LeighHolmwood...29212558352384 |
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Thought as much:
"@LeighHolmwood: ITV had asked the BBC to move #thevoiceuk to 6pm to cut the overlap further but were rebuffed" https://twitter.com/#!/LeighHolmwood...29212558352384 |
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Thought as much:
"@LeighHolmwood: ITV had asked the BBC to move #thevoiceuk to 6pm to cut the overlap further but were rebuffed" https://twitter.com/#!/LeighHolmwood...29212558352384 |
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