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The Voice - BBC1 'Tweet-Breakdown'
19:10 - 2.77m 19:15 - 4.75m 19:20 - 6.05m 19:25 - 7.22m 19:30 - 7.12m 19:35 - 8.22m 19:40 - 8.90m 19:45 - 8.10m 19:50 - 8.27m 19:55 - 8.37m 20:00 - 8.25m 20:05 - 8.80m 20:10 - 10.12m 20:15 - 9.75m 20:20 - 9.37m 20:25 - 9.62m 20:30 - 9.02m 20:35 - 8.45m Source: Zeebox, converted by myself to an audience figure. An uplift of 25% applied. Average = 7.95m Peak = 10.12m |
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The problem for ITV1 in covering tennis is that it's such a difficult sport to timetable, not just with possible rain interruptions but also with match lengths being impossible to predict.
Does the French stadium have a roof? |
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DMN how do you work out the number of viewers based on Tweets? On Zeebox it says The Voice had 17/100 at 19.10, why do you work that out as 2.77m. I think more than 2.77m people would watch it.
On Zeebox, the bar is divided up into 30. 90 minutes divided by 30 equals 3 minutes per bar. So for that one: 19:10 to 19:13 - 17/100 19:13 to 19:16 - 30/100 To convert it into a 5-minute breakdown here I did ((17*3)+(30*2))/5 which equals 22.2 => 2.22m * 1.25 = 2.77m for the period from 19:10 to 19:15. ![]() Incredibly inane, I know...
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I think The Voice was awful tonight, verging on unwatchable. All the "top performers" on the show seem so arrogant and the coaches are really struggling to string coherent sentences together. Big mess. And Britain's Got Talent was not much better.
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Britain's Got Talent - ITV1 'Tweet-Breakdown'
20:45 - 8.82m 20:50 - 8.87m 20:55 - 8.17m 21:00 - 9.07m 21:05 - 9.45m 21:10 - 9.97m 21:15 - 8.25m 21:20 - 7.32m 21:25 - 8.32m 21:30 - 8.25m 21:35 - 9.27m 21:40 - 9.70m 21:45 - 9.02m 21:50 - 8.85m 21:55 - 8.45m 22:00 - 8.77m 22:05 - 7.60m 22:10 - 7.65m Source: Zeebox, converted by myself to an audience figure. An uplift of 25% applied. Average = 8.66m Peak = 9.97m at 21:10 Predictions (exc +1) Averages Britain's Got Talent - 8.66m The Voice - 7.95m The FA Cup - 4.71m Peaks The Voice - 10.12m Britain's Got Talent - 9.97m The FA Cup - 8.16m Got it? Good.
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I think The Voice was awful tonight, verging on unwatchable. All the "top performers" on the show seem so arrogant and the coaches are really struggling to string coherent sentences together. Big mess. And Britain's Got Talent was not much better.
I think the second half of tonights BGT was weaker than the first, but this part of the process always is, one minute the judges love them, then they're kicking them off... The Voice was imporved from last week, but still not a great live show... I'm sure it will get better though... Think it'll be much closer tonight, The Voice could start higher than last week, with the FA Cup inheritence, improving the average, and BGT may lose some viewers towards the end... |
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The reveal is always annoying on BGT - you get a line up of talented acts and a line up of joke acts and you can guarantee which one will get through. Quote:
The problem for ITV1 in covering tennis is that it's such a difficult sport to timetable, not just with possible rain interruptions but also with match lengths being impossible to predict.
Does the French stadium have a roof? |
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I agree with this. I'm a BBC fanboy but I believe a strong ITV is good for British TV. If only they're wern't so smug whenever they had a big hit.
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BGT was mostly poor tonight. As always the last auditions were weak - it jut felt like leftovers that they had cut from previous shows and there were no real standout acts. They do the same thing every year so it's no surprise. The last half hour was better, I'm probably one of the only people that likes the reveal stage and they didn't drag it out for too long this year either.
Also pleased that they seem to have reduced the number of joke acts on the live shows this year - its fine to have a few (which they do this year) but they've had far too many in the last few years but they didn't seem to put as many through tonight, and the ones they did put through at least are quite funny as opposed to plain embarrassing (except the bizarre Dalek guy). A little surprised at some of the cuts, mainly the female impressionist and the girl that sang Purple Rain (mainly just because they both got lots of screen time at the auditions) but overall the lineup for the semi finals looks pretty good. The Voice was dire though. The talent was rather thin on the ground, and a real flaw in the format was exposed IMO as Danny's acts were far better than Jessie's on the whole yet we lose one of each, when really it should be two of Jessie's going home - indeed, based on what we've seen it's unfortunate that we lose the same number of contestants from each team as they'd be better off just doing an overall vote, although I suppose that'd make it even more like TXF. As I said earlier, the judges are mostly really bad on the live shows too. Not good. |
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Reading some of the comments regarding The Voice, I have come up with some issues that may be the reasons behind viewers disinterest in the live stages:
1) Only having two judges teams performing each week restricts real competition. Indeed, there is at present, no tension or sense of competing. 2) The severe over-use of Holly Willoughby and severe under-use of Reggie Yates. 3) The fact that even though viewers may vote for their least favourite to leave, the judges can retain them so makes the voting process seem redundant. 4) The judges offering constant "wonderments" and not really saying anything other than they were all amazing. 5) Will.i.am keep using urban lingo. What's "dope" for instance? 6) The song choices are just not mainstream enough. To keep viewers totally hooked, the songs should be pretty widely known. If viewers feel songs are boring, they will not bother to watch. 7) No longer a sense of wonderment as once the battle rounds were over, there was nothing "original" left to look out for. Just a few observations. Does anyone agree or have anymore points to add? |
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To be honest scanning through the second live show of The Voice it appears to be a massive all around improvement on last weeks live show. The acts seem more varied and just generally better across the board, the coaches more engaged, no over bearing sob stories (highlighted by the understated and strangely uplifting and positive ending this week vs. last week) and the general production in terms of lighting and particularly the camera work is much improved. Its by no means perfect but credit where its due – they've made vast improvements week-on-week.
I have to say one of the things that has impressed about The Voice is how well they seem to have learnt from their mistakes each week. It was noticeable during the blind auditions run and its noticeable now. And its a massive change to the SyCo shows and Strictly (not to mention other BBC shows *cough*So You Think You Can Dance*cough*) where they plough through with the same problems week after week and take the view of 'we'll fix it next year' (or not at all). |
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To be honest scanning through the second live show of The Voice it appears to be a massive all around improvement on last weeks live show. The acts seem more varied and just generally better across the board, the coaches more engaged, no over bearing sob stories (highlighted by the understated and strangely uplifting and positive ending this week vs. last week) and the general production in terms of lighting and particularly the camera work is much improved. Its by no means perfect but credit where its due – they've made vast improvements week-on-week.
I have to say one of the things that has impressed about The Voice is how well they seem to have learnt from their mistakes each week. It was noticeable during the blind auditions run and its noticeable now. And its a massive change to the SyCo shows and Strictly (not to mention other BBC shows *cough*So You Think You Can Dance*cough*) where they plough through with the same problems week after week and take the view of 'we'll fix it next year' (or not at all). |
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Reading some of the comments regarding The Voice, I have come up with some issues that may be the reasons behind viewers disinterest in the live stages:
1) Only having two judges teams performing each week restricts real competition. Indeed, there is at present, no tension or sense of competing. 2) The severe over-use of Holly Willoughby and severe under-use of Reggie Yates. 3) The fact that even though viewers may vote for their least favourite to leave, the judges can retain them so makes the voting process seem redundant. 4) The judges offering constant "wonderments" and not really saying anything other than they were all amazing. 5) Will.i.am keep using urban lingo. What's "dope" for instance? 6) The song choices are just not mainstream enough. To keep viewers totally hooked, the songs should be pretty widely known. If viewers feel songs are boring, they will not bother to watch. 7) No longer a sense of wonderment as once the battle rounds were over, there was nothing "original" left to look out for. Just a few observations. Does anyone agree or have anymore points to add? I agree about the songs too, and the other problem is that they try to put their personal stamp on them so much that they sound nothing like the original tune. I keep hoping the songs sound like the songs , and not athletic and screechy versions of note scales.Also the coaches-who came across well in the edited auditions-are struggling somewhat in the live arena. Much to think about before next year imo. |
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I didn't think The Voice was THAT much better than last week. I found it pretty bad overall if I'm being honest. There are only really two or three great singers who I'd be happy to listen to again. The rest ranged from average to quite frankly abysmal. The coaches are far too scared to criticise anyone, which is why we had to suffer Jessie J's BS justification for putting through a terrible singer because "nobody's perfect" - but we at least expect a singer on "The Voice" to hold a tune Jessie...
I'm just not feeling this panel. If I had my way I'd keep Danny and dump the rest next year. He's the only one who seems to have thrived in the live shows and for my money he has the best group of singers on the show. The rest might as well not be there. One of will.i.am's appraisals focused solely on the length of a singer's microphone cord... says it all really. |
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One of will.i.am's appraisals focused solely on the length of a singer's microphone cord... says it all really.
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I didn't think The Voice was THAT much better than last week. I found it pretty bad overall if I'm being honest. There are only really two or three great singers who I'd be happy to listen to again. The rest ranged from average to quite frankly abysmal. The coaches are far too scared to criticise anyone, which is why we had to suffer Jessie J's BS justification for putting through a terrible singer because "nobody's perfect" - but we at least expect a singer on "The Voice" to hold a tune Jessie...
I'm just not feeling this panel. If I had my way I'd keep Danny and dump the rest next year. He's the only one who seems to have thrived in the live shows and for my money he has the best group of singers on the show. The rest might as well not be there. One of will.i.am's appraisals focused solely on the length of a singer's microphone cord... says it all really. |
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Louis Walsh has said much weirder things on X Factor live shows before, which have had nothing to do with singing.
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But the whole point behind The Voice is it isn't The X Factor. Are we now getting to the stage where, if The X Factor does it, it's ok for The Voice to do it?
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No, but it was obvious Will i.am was just joking with that comment. People criticise The Voice for being too serious but even when the coaches lighten up a little bit like william attempted to do then with the microphone comment, they still get criticised.
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No, but it was obvious Will i.am was just joking with that comment. People criticise The Voice for being too serious but even when the coaches lighten up a little bit like william attempted to do then with the microphone comment, they still get criticised.
But it's interesting that you would use The X Factor as a defence because I do think that's part of the problem - that at this stage there's not enough to set it apart from XF. The hook was the blind auditions and once that disappeared the show has massively struggled to find its own identity. Overall I wouldn't say The Voice has been 'too serious' but it does have a tendency to take itself too seriously at times. Often the coaches come across as being very self-congratulatory and unfortunately more often than not they don't have the goods to back it up. It's just words. All of this actually wouldn't be much of an issue if the show hadn't made so much noise about how different (and often better) it was to The X Factor. |
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But it's interesting that you would use The X Factor as a defence because I do think that's part of the problem - that at this stage there's not enough to set it apart from XF. The hook was the blind auditions and once that disappeared the show has massively struggled to find its own identity.
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Glad to see DS posters have had exciting Saturday nights, not just looking at twitter data
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I think The Voice is fantastic.
I hope it did well last night. It is pure talent. I think last night would have got high 9million figures. |
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But it's interesting that you would use The X Factor as a defence because I do think that's part of the problem - that at this stage there's not enough to set it apart from XF. The hook was the blind auditions and once that disappeared the show has massively struggled to find its own identity.
Also this is still the first set of live shows. If the selling point of the live shows is going to be showing and developing these acts as artists then its going to take more than one set of live shows to really demonstrate that. Give them time because there's really no way to make the basic concept of singing live in a studio revolutionary. |
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During the live shows its inevitable it would look more similar to X Factor which itself is hardly an original format. I have asked this on The Voice forum, but how do you or Fudd think this live stage of the format could be changed for The Voice so it's much more different to Idol and X Factor, like blind auditions? I just dont see the ways of how it could veer too far away from the decades old format of contestants singing, judges critiquing, viewers voting? I mean, X Factor is hardly that different to American Idol but its worked, so why cant it work for The Voice.
1) Stop the superiority complex around the show: it's a singing contest, not the saviour of television itself. 2) Turn the judges' chairs: It's about The Voice so let them judge The Voice without being distracted by the production. 3) Let the public vote on the battle rounds: It appears a lot of talent was lost at this stage at the expense of weaker artists. This also happened on the American version which is now limping towards the conclusion. 4) Cut each mentor category to three: Then there will be 12 acts who can all perform on one night. It'll also lift the competitive nature of the mentors who all seem very bland, which leads to... 5) If an act is bad SAY it's bad: It's patronising to the public to build up someone as brilliant when they were, in fact, awful. 6) Don't allow the coaches to perform together again: It's slightly ironic to hear them struggling to sing in tune together when the show is supposedly about The Voice. I think point 2 could really make the difference TBH. |
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, and not athletic and screechy versions of note scales.