The editing in tonights The Voice has been much better than last Sundays show.
The Ratings Thread (Part 34)
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Originally Posted by Score:
“10.5m (inc +1) seems a reasonable estimate - worth remembering that SuBo performed on that Sunday semi in 2009 so it isn't a great comparison to use. The one variable that could alter things is Planet Earth Live. It might just be capable of denting BGT with 6-7m (remember it has a big lead-in and a 10 minute start), although I can't help feeling that a live show across different continents screams car crash TV. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.”
“10.5m (inc +1) seems a reasonable estimate - worth remembering that SuBo performed on that Sunday semi in 2009 so it isn't a great comparison to use. The one variable that could alter things is Planet Earth Live. It might just be capable of denting BGT with 6-7m (remember it has a big lead-in and a 10 minute start), although I can't help feeling that a live show across different continents screams car crash TV. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.”
Well Richard Hammond is presenting. Giving it a ten minute head start though pretty much screws up scheduling around the world as the BBC are airing it on all their global channels too.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Well Richard Hammond is presenting. Giving it a ten minute head start though pretty much screws up scheduling around the world as the BBC are airing it on all their global channels too.”
“Well Richard Hammond is presenting. Giving it a ten minute head start though pretty much screws up scheduling around the world as the BBC are airing it on all their global channels too.”
Lol, have to laugh, because Planet Earth Live has started with a sob story
Surely this is scraping the barrel
..........and the title is a bit misleading too-it should be Planet Earth recorded a bit earlier.
Not that Im being disrespectful-its all very worthy!
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Lol, have to laugh, because Planet Earth Live has started with a sob story
Surely this is scraping the barrel
..........and the title is a bit misleading too-it should be Planet Earth recorded a bit earlier.
Not that Im being disrespectful-its all very worthy!”
“Lol, have to laugh, because Planet Earth Live has started with a sob story
Surely this is scraping the barrel
..........and the title is a bit misleading too-it should be Planet Earth recorded a bit earlier.
Not that Im being disrespectful-its all very worthy!”
I know wildlife filming is not an exact science and some wildlife photographers can spent months waiting to get one minute of wildlife film, but come on BBC. You might have some live shots of animal somewhere amongst your six locations.
Starting to get annoyed now. Won't do the ratings any good.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I know wildlife filming is not an exact science and some wildlife photographers can spent months waiting to get one minute of wildlife film, but come on BBC. You might have some live shots of animal somewhere amongst your six locations.
Starting to get annoyed now. Won't do the ratings any good.
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“I know wildlife filming is not an exact science and some wildlife photographers can spent months waiting to get one minute of wildlife film, but come on BBC. You might have some live shots of animal somewhere amongst your six locations.
Starting to get annoyed now. Won't do the ratings any good.
”
There was more live animal activity in Foxes Live on Channel4, set in Battersea, than this.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Big Brother on C5 last year averaged 1.7m. Hardly represents a great threat to ITV1 and BBC1. Its popularity in this thread is disproportionately higher than it is in the nation as a whole. There is a increased number of posts for me to scroll past when BB is on the air. Sigh.”
“Big Brother on C5 last year averaged 1.7m. Hardly represents a great threat to ITV1 and BBC1. Its popularity in this thread is disproportionately higher than it is in the nation as a whole. There is a increased number of posts for me to scroll past when BB is on the air. Sigh.”
Where in D.M.N.'s post did he state that BB "represents a great threat" to the big two? He didn't state that at any point, or even suggest this. But since you've hijacked a perfectly innocuous post to have a rant, allow me to have mine.
Look up the origins of this website and you'll learn more about why a disproportionate number on here have a soft spot for the show. There's evidently plenty of haters as well though, and that's fine. Consider that not all of us in here like the shows that dominate discussion normally, and stronger ratings for these shows does not make them more worthy of discussion than anything else.
It's kind of irrelevant whether or not you like the show, or at least it should be. There is nothing else on Channel 5 at the moment you could class as event TV, and pretty much nothing else with as much ratings potential. An audience of 2m on C5 is almost 100% up on what they normally get, the same as a show doing 8m on BBC One/ITV1. Not to mention what it does for the channel's profile amongst young people. And it's for precisely these reasons that it intrigues most ratings enthusiasts.
Whilst the football will change the state of play dramatically this time out, it's worth noting that last time the performance in its key 16-34 demographic was strong enough to beat the BBC One / ITV1 opposition on a regular basis, so not as insignificant as you'd like to make out. Well worth considering the full picture with a show like Big Brother that isn't all about the Total People performance.
My best advice is to continue skipping past posts you don't like the look of, it doesn't take long. You can count on there being plenty of posts about the hit shows doing swimmingly on the channels that 99% of the time do well anyway to make up for it, for those who find that kind of thing hugely exciting.
Originally Posted by Score:
“10.5m (inc +1) seems a reasonable estimate - worth remembering that SuBo performed on that Sunday semi in 2009 so it isn't a great comparison to use. The one variable that could alter things is Planet Earth Live. It might just be capable of denting BGT with 6-7m (remember it has a big lead-in and a 10 minute start), although I can't help feeling that a live show across different continents screams car crash TV. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.”
“10.5m (inc +1) seems a reasonable estimate - worth remembering that SuBo performed on that Sunday semi in 2009 so it isn't a great comparison to use. The one variable that could alter things is Planet Earth Live. It might just be capable of denting BGT with 6-7m (remember it has a big lead-in and a 10 minute start), although I can't help feeling that a live show across different continents screams car crash TV. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.”
Are we not allowed to compare against previous high ratings show?
The Radio Times has described Homeland as having "one of the greatest television endings ever", so fingers crossed for it.
Annoyingly, the continuity announcer said The X Files was on "in an hour", which it isn't. (Homeland season finale is 9pm to 10.45pm).
Annoyingly, the continuity announcer said The X Files was on "in an hour", which it isn't. (Homeland season finale is 9pm to 10.45pm).
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“A couple of weeks ago I suggested that ITV1 could have further boosted ratings for BGT finals week by screening a Piers Morgan's LIfe Stories featuring Simon Cowell who it is alleged** wanted to guest on Piers show to put his side of the stories revealed in his recent biography.
I now see that ITV have replaced this Friday's planned edition of PMLS*** featuring Lulu with one featuring Dennis Waterman. This episode has already made headlines because in it Waterman admitted, and tried to justify, beating up Rula Lenska when they married. Interesting move by ITV and plenty of big ratings this week to promote the programme.
**I refuse to take anything I read in newspapers about Simon Cowell to be gospel.
***every time I see the initials PMLS I keep thinking it starts for p**sed myself laughing which I do when I see Piers lose to his evil enemy Ian Hislop in the ratings. Damn you, Waterman, if you give Morgan the victory this week.
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“A couple of weeks ago I suggested that ITV1 could have further boosted ratings for BGT finals week by screening a Piers Morgan's LIfe Stories featuring Simon Cowell who it is alleged** wanted to guest on Piers show to put his side of the stories revealed in his recent biography.
I now see that ITV have replaced this Friday's planned edition of PMLS*** featuring Lulu with one featuring Dennis Waterman. This episode has already made headlines because in it Waterman admitted, and tried to justify, beating up Rula Lenska when they married. Interesting move by ITV and plenty of big ratings this week to promote the programme.
**I refuse to take anything I read in newspapers about Simon Cowell to be gospel.
***every time I see the initials PMLS I keep thinking it starts for p**sed myself laughing which I do when I see Piers lose to his evil enemy Ian Hislop in the ratings. Damn you, Waterman, if you give Morgan the victory this week.
”
Cue a Piers Morgan advert during Britain's Got Talent.
Well Britain's Got Talent app voting went well.
They opened it before the break then had to ask people to stop using it straight after the break due to "congestion".
They opened it before the break then had to ask people to stop using it straight after the break due to "congestion".
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Well Britain's Got Talent app voting went well.
They opened it before the break then had to ask people to stop using it straight after the break due to "conjestion".”
“Well Britain's Got Talent app voting went well.
They opened it before the break then had to ask people to stop using it straight after the break due to "conjestion".”
Conjestion? Not a word. And that's no joke.
Are they offering Facebook voting yet?
Originally Posted by Joe40:
“The Radio Times has described Homeland as having "one of the greatest television endings ever", so fingers crossed for it.
Annoyingly, the continuity announcer said The X Files was on "in an hour", which it isn't. (Homeland season finale is 9pm to 10.45pm).”
“The Radio Times has described Homeland as having "one of the greatest television endings ever", so fingers crossed for it.
Annoyingly, the continuity announcer said The X Files was on "in an hour", which it isn't. (Homeland season finale is 9pm to 10.45pm).”
Although by telling people the ending is great it instantly makes it a little bit worse surely.
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Well Britain's Got Talent app voting went well.
They opened it before the break then had to ask people to stop using it straight after the break due to "conjestion".”
“Well Britain's Got Talent app voting went well.
They opened it before the break then had to ask people to stop using it straight after the break due to "conjestion".”
A bit risky to test it in a ten minute voting window - don't really get why they didn't split the show with Millionaire tonight. The Voice would have gone to 6.45pm if Cowell had forced them too.
Anyhow, BGT showed how you put on a live show tonight - forget licks and rifts and all that nonsence, there was some genuine entertainment on stage tonight and a decent bit of banter from the judges, something sorely missing on The Voice.
Also with the Wildcard twist anyone else think they might pull a last minute Friday show out of the bag?
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Also with the Wildcard twist anyone else think they might pull a last minute Friday show out of the bag?”
“Also with the Wildcard twist anyone else think they might pull a last minute Friday show out of the bag?”
I can't see it happening. The schedules are already in place and they've been pushing Life Stories in the Friday 9pm slot already.
As for yesterday's ratings - The Voice will just have to ride out the live shows and try and shake it up for next year; the rating on it's own is excellent. The trend is the problem. The FA Cup did very well for ITV and boosted The Cube slightly in turn. Britain's Got talent remained steady which gives a decent platform for tonight; the semi final was pretty good this evening. Tomorrow's semi final looks like a strong one too, so obviously they're putting their strongest acts on their best nights.
Wonder how many people did this tonight:
18:15 - Countryfile
19:15 - The Voice
19:50 - Who Wants to be a Millionaire?
20:20 - Britain's Got Talent
Getting back to live at about 21:30.
18:15 - Countryfile
19:15 - The Voice
19:50 - Who Wants to be a Millionaire?
20:20 - Britain's Got Talent
Getting back to live at about 21:30.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Although by telling people the ending is great it instantly makes it a little bit worse surely.
A bit risky to test it in a ten minute voting window - don't really get why they didn't split the show with Millionaire tonight. The Voice would have gone to 6.45pm if Cowell had forced them too.
Anyhow, BGT showed how you put on a live show tonight - forget licks and rifts and all that nonsence, there was some genuine entertainment on stage tonight and a decent bit of banter from the judges, something sorely missing on The Voice.
Also with the Wildcard twist anyone else think they might pull a last minute Friday show out of the bag?”
“Although by telling people the ending is great it instantly makes it a little bit worse surely.
A bit risky to test it in a ten minute voting window - don't really get why they didn't split the show with Millionaire tonight. The Voice would have gone to 6.45pm if Cowell had forced them too.
Anyhow, BGT showed how you put on a live show tonight - forget licks and rifts and all that nonsence, there was some genuine entertainment on stage tonight and a decent bit of banter from the judges, something sorely missing on The Voice.
Also with the Wildcard twist anyone else think they might pull a last minute Friday show out of the bag?”
I did watch some of BGT tonight including the end. It did strike me that BGT can provide moments and an awwww factor that TV never will-unless they open up the show to singing dogs. The two shows are aiming for different things and any comparison is not like for like.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=5806659
Someone in The Voice forum mentioned the relative costs of it versus BGT, mentioning an extremely large (and blatantly made up) figure for the latter.
Does anyone have any advances of the figures in that post for what costs more to produce? Obviously the answer is Britain's Got Talent and The X Factor because of the production values, but I wondered how much it had gone up since 2009 and how much more money ITV put into production values for BGT and TXF compared to BBC's The Voice.
Someone in The Voice forum mentioned the relative costs of it versus BGT, mentioning an extremely large (and blatantly made up) figure for the latter.
Does anyone have any advances of the figures in that post for what costs more to produce? Obviously the answer is Britain's Got Talent and The X Factor because of the production values, but I wondered how much it had gone up since 2009 and how much more money ITV put into production values for BGT and TXF compared to BBC's The Voice.
The Sun front page tomorrow focuses on The Voice ratings: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7tbv
BUNCH OF JESSIES - Voice ratings trounced by BGT; Beeb tells coaches: Toughen up
Daily Star: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7uoh
Voice boobs in TV ratings war - HOLLY IN SEX TRICK STORM
"The BBC was accused of dirty tricks by unleashing Holly Willoughby as a sex weapon in the ratings war with Britain's Got Talent. Holly's plunging top on The Voice amazed fans as the Beeb's battle with BGT reached boiling point."
BUNCH OF JESSIES - Voice ratings trounced by BGT; Beeb tells coaches: Toughen up
Daily Star: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7uoh
Voice boobs in TV ratings war - HOLLY IN SEX TRICK STORM
"The BBC was accused of dirty tricks by unleashing Holly Willoughby as a sex weapon in the ratings war with Britain's Got Talent. Holly's plunging top on The Voice amazed fans as the Beeb's battle with BGT reached boiling point."
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I did watch some of BGT tonight including the end. It did strike me that BGT can provide moments and an awwww factor that TV never will-unless they open up the show to singing dogs. The two shows are aiming for different things and any comparison is not like for like.”
“I did watch some of BGT tonight including the end. It did strike me that BGT can provide moments and an awwww factor that TV never will-unless they open up the show to singing dogs. The two shows are aiming for different things and any comparison is not like for like.”
Agreed.
TVUK is totally different to BGT and X Factor in many aspects too. TVUK hasn't been sharp enough with the live shows but if they start making it like the Cowell shows with the the panto and ridiculous bits people will moan its copying to boost ratings and if they stay with the positive tone and voice with no theatrics then people will moan its not as exciting as the Syco shows, Cant win.
Until ITV win the rights......
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=5806659
Someone in The Voice forum mentioned the relative costs of it versus BGT, mentioning an extremely large (and blatantly made up) figure for the latter.
Does anyone have any advances of the figures in that post for what costs more to produce? Obviously the answer is Britain's Got Talent and The X Factor because of the production values, but I wondered how much it had gone up since 2009 and how much more money ITV put into production values for BGT and TXF compared to BBC's The Voice.”
“http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=5806659
Someone in The Voice forum mentioned the relative costs of it versus BGT, mentioning an extremely large (and blatantly made up) figure for the latter.
Does anyone have any advances of the figures in that post for what costs more to produce? Obviously the answer is Britain's Got Talent and The X Factor because of the production values, but I wondered how much it had gone up since 2009 and how much more money ITV put into production values for BGT and TXF compared to BBC's The Voice.”
The BBC are reported to be spending about £22m for The Voice UK over 2 years, so £11m per series. There's approximately 21 hours of The Voice this series, meaning it's costing them £500,000-550,000 per hour.
ITV are reportedly spending £120m (total) for The X Factor and Britain's Got Talent over 3 years, so £40m per year. As X Factor has a run which is about twice as long as BGT, it's fair to assume the costs would be split about £26m for X Factor and £14m for Britain's Got Talent. BGT this series is running for 21/22 hours so it works out as £650,000/hour. It's been said before that a live 90-minute episode of BGT costs ITV about £1m.
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Are we not allowed to compare against previous high ratings show?”
“Are we not allowed to compare against previous high ratings show?
”
Feel free to. Just different circumstances though.
Great live BGT show tonight. The whole show - judges, hosts, production values etc put The Voice to shame. The judges were great - Walliams in particular is brilliant. The standard of acts was good as well and the show felt fresh - I hope it rated well.
Didn't see Planet Earth Live but it hasn't gone down well online. More Springwatch than Frozen Planet from what I gather.
Originally Posted by ronant:
“The Sun front page tomorrow focuses on The Voice ratings: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7tbv”
“The Sun front page tomorrow focuses on The Voice ratings: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7tbv”
Lol, following The Voice press reaction is like riding a rollercoaster where there may be a chance that one of the riders is sick before the end. The positive stuff from a few weeks ago was all around being nice to the contestants and how refreshing that was. I suspect they dont really know what to do next tbh.
Originally Posted by ronant:
“The Sun front page tomorrow focuses on The Voice ratings: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7tbv
BUNCH OF JESSIES - Voice ratings trounced by BGT; Beeb tells coaches: Toughen up
Daily Star: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7uoh
Voice boobs in TV ratings war - HOLLY IN SEX TRICK STORM
"The BBC was accused of dirty tricks by unleashing Holly Willoughby as a sex weapon in the ratings war with Britain's Got Talent. Holly's plunging top on The Voice amazed fans as the Beeb's battle with BGT reached boiling point."”
“The Sun front page tomorrow focuses on The Voice ratings: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7tbv
BUNCH OF JESSIES - Voice ratings trounced by BGT; Beeb tells coaches: Toughen up
Daily Star: http://twitpic.com/show/iphone/9i7uoh
Voice boobs in TV ratings war - HOLLY IN SEX TRICK STORM
"The BBC was accused of dirty tricks by unleashing Holly Willoughby as a sex weapon in the ratings war with Britain's Got Talent. Holly's plunging top on The Voice amazed fans as the Beeb's battle with BGT reached boiling point."”
Quality journalism as ever. I wonder how the meeting where Danny Cohen informed Holly of their plans to use her as a 'sex weapon' went?
On another note, am I right in thinking C4 has tied up rights to season 2 of Homeland? I saw some suggestions that they announced it at the end of tonights finale.
Originally Posted by Score:
“Feel free to. Just different circumstances though.
Great live BGT show tonight. The whole show - judges, hosts, production values etc put The Voice to shame. The judges were great - Walliams in particular is brilliant. The standard of acts was good as well and the show felt fresh - I hope it rated well.
Didn't see Planet Earth Live but it hasn't gone down well online. More Springwatch than Frozen Planet from what I gather.”
“Feel free to. Just different circumstances though.
Great live BGT show tonight. The whole show - judges, hosts, production values etc put The Voice to shame. The judges were great - Walliams in particular is brilliant. The standard of acts was good as well and the show felt fresh - I hope it rated well.
Didn't see Planet Earth Live but it hasn't gone down well online. More Springwatch than Frozen Planet from what I gather.”
In parts it might have well as been a rainy night in the field behind my house than the Masai Mara for all that could be seen on the live feed. For all of its build up about being live, I suspect casual viewers would have been disappointed -despite the recorded bits which as a matter of interest certainly matched the dogs and kids on BGT on the awww factor scale.
I suspect tomorrows ratings comparison between BGT and TV is going to provide for even starker headlines.
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Quality journalism as ever. I wonder how the meeting where Danny Cohen informed Holly of their plans to use her as a 'sex weapon' went?
On another note, am I right in thinking C4 has tied up rights to season 2 of Homeland? I saw some suggestions that they announced it at the end of tonights finale.”
“Quality journalism as ever. I wonder how the meeting where Danny Cohen informed Holly of their plans to use her as a 'sex weapon' went?
On another note, am I right in thinking C4 has tied up rights to season 2 of Homeland? I saw some suggestions that they announced it at the end of tonights finale.”
Yep. C4 press release is online, confirming the S2 acquisition:
http://www.channel4.com/info/press/n...h-it-all-again
Great news. Sky denied.
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