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The Voice will grow again this week; that much I'm sure of. I'm pretty sure it'll also beat Britain's Got Talent. There is an argument that it should see a dip next week with the Battle Rounds (as The X Factor does with Bootcamp) but without a clash it may not suffer much at all.
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JamesJ, you could be right: Simon Cowell is developing a new talent show format to take over X Factor:
That's if The X Factor holds up, of course. |
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I think 10million for the Voice.
I think 15million is possible for the Final. |
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I like The Voice but the hype is bizarre. I genuinely don't think it's THAT good. I do think people have desperately wanted an alternative to The X Factor so have enthusiastically latched on to the first thing that has come along.
My problems with the show are that good (extraordinarily good) singers are turned away and yet all four coaches will turn and rave about quite average singers. And Jessie J and will.i.am are INCREDIBLY irritating to watch. Jessie in particular I find quite hard to like. Quote:
On the plus side it is a well produced show and it is good Saturday night entertainment. But it's not really anything more than that.
Neither are.
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Itv have had to pull next weeks Frank Bruno episode of Piers Morgans Life Stories from the schedules: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...xhaustion.html
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The same thing happens all the time with BGT.
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Neither are.
I never said BGT was.
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will.i.am is just dreadful. Officially the most irritating judge of any of these shows EVER, and that's saying something.
He seems to have developed a new catchphrase this week. "That's dope. That's dope that is." :sleep: Oh, sod off you overpaid tool! Sorry, but... To make matters worse, then Jessie J joined in, who is also increasingly dislikeable with each and every episode.I get that they are trying to chase a young audience. But if that's how these supposedly professional people, some might say role models, have to talk on these shows to be accepted by the yoofs watching, then that really is depressing, and frankly I'd rather not be a part of it. Say what you like about Simon Cowell but he is at least articulate and normally gives a good critique. ![]() Dope is slang for good in America, not really used much here though. When you grow up in those areas and among similar people that is part of the vernacular. It's the language of the streets in America. I can see how it would be a culture shock to most people whose exposure to rap or hip hop is minimal. |
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Dope is a new catchphrase? Now I know there are a lot of old white people on here!
![]() Dope is slang for good in America, not really used much here though. When you grow up in those areas and among similar people that is part of the vernacular. It's the language of the streets in America. I can see how it would be a culture shock to most people whose exposure to rap or hip hop is minimal.
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Itv have had to pull next weeks Frank Bruno episode of Piers Morgans Life Stories from the schedules: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...xhaustion.html
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I think 10million for the Voice.
I think 15million is possible for the Final. |
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That doesn't really explain why Jessie J decided to adopt the expression.
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15m in Summer will be tricky. Not many shows get 15m these days anyway. I think 12-13m would be more likely but you just never know.
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15m in Summer will be tricky. Not many shows get 15m these days anyway. I think 12-13m would be more likely but you just never know.
We have no idea what the lives will be like, which is the deciding factor in what the final gets tbh! They and the contestants will decide the final rating. I agree 15m seems too much in the Summer, but who knows. I think the Beeb will be happy with anything +10 tbh! |
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Sky Atlantic have moved Smash from 9pm to 10pm next Saturday, no idea why they would do that, 9pm is a much better slot for it.
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Having just seen the latest Voice trailer on BBC1, for the "battle weekend", it occurred to me that as it is all pre-recorded, in front of a studio audience, then there must be a lot of poole who know who the finalists are; as Voice seems to be the most tweeted about show of the moment, it seems surprising that the names aren't all over the internet, like the latest SCD evictee does before the results show airs?
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Which could be a problem with The Voice (I think this has already been said before) - the memorable acts make each other forgettable because there are so many of them.
I think The Vocie will beat Britain's Got Talent though. For some reason ITV1 went with the same stupid ad pattern as last week and it was the weakest show of the series; compared to The Voice which was apparently the strongest. The Voice was the same as ever - a mixture of good acts getting put through or rejected. I can't say that any of the 40 put through particularly stand out so far as anything special - certainly wouldn't label any of them a star in the making yet. The Battle format could also lead to a bit of a backlash with half the acts eliminated - there are bound to be a few Gamui's amongst them seemingly getting kicked off and letting "weaker" singers through. I suspect though the BBC would be all for that as The Voice has been far more about the PR campaign than what is happening on screen. I kind of agree with Agent F - it is not a bad show at all but the pretence that it is something that is clearly isn't (or to be more precise, isn't something it clearly is) is actually preventing me just sitting back and enjoying. |
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Having just seen the latest Voice trailer on BBC1, for the "battle weekend", it occurred to me that as it is all pre-recorded, in front of a studio audience, then there must be a lot of poole who know who the finalists are; as Voice seems to be the most tweeted about show of the moment, it seems surprising that the names aren't all over the internet, like the latest SCD evictee does before the results show airs?
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And Jessie J and will.i.am are INCREDIBLY irritating to watch. Jessie in particular I find quite hard to like.
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The same thing happens all the time with BGT.
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Neither are.
Don't you think you're being a bit defensive? You're not the only one, mind, as whenever The Voice is criticised it seems like its big fans on here all instantly bring BGT into the debate as some sort of defence mechanism, as though a comparison to BGT makes everything about The Voice wonderful.Quote:
I presume they'll just pull everyone else forward a week, so it'll be Carol Vorderman next Friday instead.
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I kind of agree with Agent F - it is not a bad show at all but the pretence that it is something that is clearly isn't (or to be more precise, isn't something it clearly is) is actually preventing me just sitting back and enjoying.
I agree with you about tonight's BGT too, I thought it was a good show, and I did notice a subtle shift away from the constant bad acts - only one montage tonight as you mention, although to be fair that is part of the format and the narrative of the show. People complain about it but it wouldn't work as well without it (IMHO). |
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Sustaining momentum through the battle rounds, Britain's Got Talent's final weekend and the Friday night show is key. It appears more than capable of doing this, though.
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Anyone claiming 15m is doing so blindly!
We have no idea what the lives will be like, which is the deciding factor in what the final gets tbh! They and the contestants will decide the final rating. I agree 15m seems too much in the Summer, but who knows. I think the Beeb will be happy with anything +10 tbh! |
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Olympics
European Athletics Championships Diamond league Commonwealth games London Marathon Great North run World Cup European Championships Premier league highlights Football league highlights Carling Cup Six Nations Challenge Cup Super league highlights F1 MotoGP Wimbledon Australian open Queens World Darts Championships Alpine Skiing World Cup The Boat Race Superbowl World Snooker Championships However if you go through your list and strip out events only every 4 years (*) and highlights the list goes down quite a bit. Many of the remaining events on the list are only one day per year. There are 104 weekend days per year. In the year Sept 2012 to Aug 2013, on how many of those 104 days will the BBC have any live sport on BBC1 or BBC2? The number will have fallen massively compared to 2 or 3 years ago. (*) Not saying those events aren't important - of course they are - they are the biggest events of all. |
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This is my point. Although to be fair I think the show itself IS good and I am enjoying it. It's the people on here and on Twitter that seem to determined to keep that pretence going.
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I agree with you about tonight's BGT too, I thought it was a good show, and I did notice a subtle shift away from the constant bad acts - only one montage tonight as you mention, although to be fair that is part of the format and the narrative of the show. People complain about it but it wouldn't work as well without it (IMHO).
A shift away from bad acts in the edited programme is really no coincidence. Trust me on that one!
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No it doesn't to be fair.
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Don't you think you're being a bit defensive?
No, both those things do apply to BGT, I like both for different reasons, I'd be doing the same if it was BGT that was getting all the criticism, I've been watching BGT since the start. I was one of the first to criticise both fans for being defensive about their favourite one.Quote:
You're not the only one, mind, as whenever The Voice is criticised it seems like its big fans on here all instantly bring BGT into the debate as some sort of defence mechanism, as though a comparison to BGT makes everything about The Voice wonderful.
Again, it's the same vice versa, the amount of people who usually moan about BGT that were in that forum when the series first started looking for anything to criticise The Voice with, praising BGT for doing the opposite, even when the opposite was one of the things they usually moan about.
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Yes because obviously BBC Sport is dead despite still having the rights to
Olympics European Athletics Championships Diamond league Commonwealth games London Marathon Great North run World Cup European Championships Premier league highlights Football league highlights Carling Cup Six Nations Challenge Cup Super league highlights F1 MotoGP Wimbledon Australian open Queens World Darts Championships Alpine Skiing World Cup The Boat Race Superbowl World Snooker Championships And that's without getting into the various other events like equestrian, rowing, cycling etc. etc. and the smaller snooker, darts etc. etc. championship coverage that the BBC still cover. And doesn't touch on the BBC's radio coverage of sport either. But you're right losing The Grand National is clearly the death note of BBC Sport I can't imagine why I thought it was ridiculous hysteria. |
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Not just people here. People that watch the show are generally thinking this way I reckon
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A shift away from bad acts in the edited programme is really no coincidence. Trust me on that one!
I know that, thank you.
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