The BBC no longer shows any darts other than the World Championships.

Indeed. Let's go down the major sports (*) and count on how many weekend days BBC is going to have any live coverage on BBC1 or BBC2 in the year September 2012 to August 2013.

Football - 0
Cricket - 0
Rugby Union - 12
Rugby League - 7
Formula 1 - 20
Golf - 4
Tennis - 9

Outside of Rugby Union and Formula 1 it doesn't amount to much does it?

(*) The above seven sports are the seven which appear in their own right on the BBC Sport homepage - so they can reasonably be considered the seven sports of most public interest.

Horse racing, arguably, should be added given that it has A List events. As posted above, that will also be zero from next year.

So there will be no live coverage of football - by far the nation's most popular sport. Of the eight most important sports there will be no live coverage at all of three, and a fourth (golf) will have just 4 live days.

This isn't just a bit of slimming down. It is a massive change.

I think Channel 5 should pick it up and given one of the CSIs is going to cancel, they need a replacement and PoI should be it.

So as we can all see the BBC's sports portfolio for annual events is bare and for high rating moments is minimal.

You could make a case that Channel 4 as the minority channel should promote minority sports, but that hasn't been the case for years.

#TheVoiceUK averages 10.7m on #BBC1, the highest rating show of the day by over 1m (exc +1s).

#TheVoiceUK peaks at 12.1m, its highest audience to date

TVUK is flying away at the moment. That is an astonishing number and rise the last couple of weeks has been fantastic.

#TheVoiceUK is officially a beast. 10.68m (peak 12.08) vs Britain's Got Talent with 10.16m (inc +1, full-slot) (12.86m peak inc +1).

Between 8/8.20pm, #TheVoiceUK averaged 11.8m, over twice the audience of any other channel #BBC1

#BGT scores its highest peak audience of the series so far - 12.9m/50% share (inc+1) and 12.2m/48% share (exc+1)

#GrandNational peaks at 10.9m

#TheCube returns with 4.3m (with +1)

A peak of 3.9m watch #MOTD

Sources: Chris Aylott, John Williams, Jenny Cummings

Wow!

I know it's been increasing but I wasn't expecting that! Astonishing rating, there's just no stopping it. Wonder how BGT did? My hopes aren't too high as the overlap really will have hurt it more than ever.

EDIT: BGT not going down without a fight to be fair. Up nicely on last week and a terrific peak (the highest of the series). The sheer difference between the overnight and the peak just shows how much the overlap is damaging the average - it would have averaged 11m or so without it. Alright for The Cube - about what I expected.

Is that BGT rating tapechecked rzt?

That's a fantastic rating for the show and is up over 1m the biggest rise for the show to date and a 12m peak!!! And BGT is back to its usual 10m levels. Told you it was down to Easter.

I wonder what tricks Simon Cowell/ITV have up their sleeve to boost BGT even more.

That peak for BGT was not only a series high, but in fact the highest peak for any Saturday audition show of either BGT or X Factor since 2009. The Voice may have won, but ITV should still be happy with last night's numbers. Hopefully next week it'll do even better without the overlap.

10.16m (inc +1) is the full-slot figure [must've been c9.6m exc +1 full slot]. Tape-checked average was probably about 10m/10.6m (exc/inc +1).

The Voice UK is just huge now, loads of momentum behind it. Without any sort of overlap next week and a later finish, it will be rating even higher. I know BGT will rate even higher next week too but the gap between the two programmes is now big enough for TVUK to still be ahead in the overnights from next week.

Astonishing numbers for both shows.

No denying that Voice has certainly done something to pull in viewers. There seems to be life in the old talent show format yet then...

Thanks rzt.

Next week could be very interesting. With Hodges saying that BGT had <5.9m in the overlap, BGT must have averaged c11m (exc +1) between 20:20-21:15. If it can get that sort of audience for the whole show (or maybe slightly less due to the later ending) it could be pretty close, although TVUK may well be 11m+ next week without the overlap. Indeed, if you include +1, both could average 11m+ next week, which for this time of year on a Saturday night would be extraordinary.

Looks like the National was boosted by the poor weather. C4 must be salivating over those numbers but I would be surprised if the race broke the 10m mark ever again.

BGT got 10.16m including +1?

Yes, at how many ad breaks they can squeeze in.

CSI: New York averaged 1.62m (inc. +1) against Casualty.

Tyson Fury boxing managed a peak audience of 1.69m/8.4% at 22.30 during the fifth and final round. Eubank Jnr was next in the ring, and a peak audience of 1.34m/8.1% sampled the action.

After the boxing, mixed martial arts event BAMMA had a successful start on FTA television, with an average audience of 439k/4.2% from 11.30pm-12am.

Absolutely super for The Voice. Surely it won't peak over 13m next week?

Astonishing result for The Voice. It's absolutely massive - and the growth over the last 4 weeks is way beyond what anyone can have expected. Quite how it's managed to establish itself on a par with BGT, XF and Strictly within the space of a month is beyond me. It was a brave thing for the BBC to metaphorically march their troops up the hill in support of this show - but it's repaying the support in spades.

Also a terrific result for BGT. The overlap has clearly been painful for it, so good to see ITV moving back next week. But in general terms, we've seen time and time again in the autumn how these huge entertainment shows can help each other - and for viewers it seems TV and BGT make a great pair.

Also, sensational peak for the BBC's final Grand National. Do we know what sort of length peak that is? I remember the figure of 8.8m from last year, but think that was a 15 minute number. Either way, it looks well up year-on-year. And it's thrown down the gauntlet to Channel 4.

Have we actually got a +1 excluded figure for BGT?

The 10.16m figure includes the repeat, yes?

The Grand National was supposed to start at 4.15pm, but the race (which takes 9 minutes) started nearer 4.30pm after the ill-fated Synchronised unseated Tony McCoy and then there were false starts.

The Voice had a 45.5% average share last night. That's up an impressive 7.9 share points compared to the launch three weeks ago.

Although TVUK and BGT might be close from next week onwards, I'm sure TVUK will continue having the higher shares due to its earlier slot.

I think it could just about peak over 13m next week. The Voice had 12.1m last night watching at 19.55 before dipping to 11.8m between 20.00-20.20 due to the BGT clash taking away a few potential viewers. Without the clash, TVUK's audience will continue to go up every 5-minutes after 8pm next week by about +0.2m so by approximately 8.20pm, it could be at ~13.1m, as long as the general audience level is around the same as last night. And that's without including any significant week-on-week rise simply due to brand-new viewers tuning in for the first time (i.e. the +1.2m week-on-week rise it experienced this week etc).


No-one yet has reported the exc +1 figure, either full-slot or tape-checked. But I suspect it was about 9.6m (full-slot) and 10.0m (tape-checked) excluding +1.

Just casting an eye back on this thread for the equivalent weekend last year. Casualty was BBC One's best rater with a miserable 4.21m. SYTYCD ran in the 7pm hour pulling 3.63m and got utterly slaughtered by Sing If You Can. I imagine Danny Cohen considers this millions of pounds well spent...


They won't be able to squeeze in very many with anything close to those figures. I imagine the audience rises and then falls again exceedingly quickly. The value of the Racing contract to C4 will be mostly spread over the 12 or so days of the contract. The surge of interest in the National itself is probably going to be a bit brief to offer a truly blockbuster afternoon of advertising for them.

Britains Got More Talent averages 1.2m and grew through out peaking at 1.3m (inc+1)

Source Jenny Cummings

Got to be a lot of tears still being wept over the snatching of Alisha Dixon...:yawn:

Seriously though, people on here are half right in calling the format a gimmick (it still changes how the judges react, and actively stops the crazies popping up on tele to be mocked and poked) - I think the big success is also down to well...the judges panel.

When you look at BGT its...well...its never actually been very good! Last two years have improved with 'the funny man' concept. But the rest is just...meh...
(I'd say their far too edited, but its a variety show - so no, but maybe the same formats/cliches are tiring)


This isn't me moaning about its ratings! Those are great figures, and whilst the clash was a bad idea - moving earlier has paid off. (the clash was suppose to just keep The Voice in check, whilst BGT benefited from its lead in, didn't quite work lol!) Just think The Voice UK's main success is a really really strong panel of judges! And the format allows for discussion that does vary.


The Voice rating is just - whens it going to stop?