Well just had a look on iplayer and The Voice ran for 1h 34m 29s. But better to squeeze it in now then drag the battle rounds out for weeks on end.

I think tomorrow it will have a bigger audience just because it's Sunday. High 10's tonight and maybe in the 11's tomorrow.

It will be lower tomorrow night

Yeah, obviously there is a younger age profile watching the Voice who live on twitter

Why??

........someone posted that they had dislocated their jaw through yawning.
No doubt someone must be able to qualify this or not?

People on the BGT forum have said watching BGT after The Voice is like "being offered Lambrini after being used to vintage champagne" or "reading the daily star after reading the independent". Only 250% buzz on Zeebox tonight for BGT, even less buzz on Twitter.

BGT is tired, repetitive, dated. the worst culprits are the judges - their script must date from 2007. It does still have the fun factor from the contestants - they make the show work (and naturally get paid zero.)

I am not saying TV is the best thing in years but at least it looks fresh and the judges in the main are new to television.

Tonight's predictions

BGT 10.3m
TV 10.9m

The thing with BGT that there are enough times you can watch it without using the internet. I confess I watched In It to Win It tonight because I will be watching the lunchtime repeat of BGT tomorrow.

Yes, we bloody get it. The Voice is great and should be on 24/7. Britain's Got Talent is crap which is heading towards the axe.

NEXT.

BGT is still rating well but how much more legs does the format have? CI4E said in America this time last year, the talent shows were doing well, but a year on people have got more bored of them, especially the older shows like Idol. Could the same thing happen here, too many talent shows being shown in the space of 12 months, meaning the older shows lose viewers more quickly than the newer shows?

Was that for the entire show? At one point it was at 594


It had 8/10 of the Uk trends a few minutes ago

The DS thread is alredy more popular than last weeks.

I think The X Factor could really suffer this year. It begs the question why the BBC felt the need for another talent show considering the number we have on at the moment, but there we go.

I think Britain's Got Talent has more mileage but they need to steer away from the singers. The fact it's now running scared of The Voice is not a good sign at all but the scheduling arguably hurt it more than the standard of the early weeks.

It's almost as if your both willing it to fail

250% was at about 9pm when I checked. I had a look at the UK trends just a few mins ago and only Simon Cowell, Latin Chick and David Walliams were trending, I didnt notice 8 but that migthve changed.


One thing which confuses me about BGT is that it doesn't use its format to its advantage. It is the only talent show which has the chance to show variety acts but there doesnt seem to be much variety in it as its singers and dancers most of the time I watch. It makes no sense to me why they would not show more variety acts to differentiate it from other talent shows like XFactor and The Voice. They have this advantage but are not making best use of it.

ITV felt the need more, didn't they outbid them for it?

I wouldn't care less if it wasn't on BBC One. I think it's a brilliant show to boost the fortunes of a commercial channel - look at NBC in the US and Nine in Australia. It is changing the TV landscape, and it's always good to have an ebb and flow to shows but...

But The Voice had half the worldwide ones throughout.

If you're not watching it, how would you what trends are BGT related?

Are we to assume they are just not getting the variety to show of sufficient quality?

They did. But I think it was more of a preventative offer than a serious one - they didn't want BBC One to get their hands on it for the very reason that it would cause them the problems that we're witnessing now.

I watched it from 9.20pm after In It To Win It finished, although had a look at Zeebox in the mean time while watching IITWI. I knew what trends to mostly look for after 9.20pm.

BGT is such a cheap looking show - I think they mean for it to look like a 1970's variety show - kinda retro. We cannot argue with the ratings it gets though, people like cheese tv, they are certainly struggling to attract hundreds of quality acts.

I applaud them getting so many unknown faces - shame mostly because they are from Eastern Europe or South America Simon was bored and angry tonight (as were many viewers)

What commercial channel should it be on here?

Channel 4 have needed something fresh ever since they axed Big Brother...but IIRC they decided the format was too derivative! Channel 5, although in my opinion in a healthier state than Channel 4, could also do with a big hitter. Both channels could also have used it to boost the night overall.

If they turned down ITV's bigger offer to have the show on a bigger channel, they wouldn't have accepted Channel 4 or Channel 5's offers.