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The Ratings Thread (Part 34)
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Andy Parish
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It's remarkable how a broadcaster can't get a pre-recorded show to fit into a 90 minute slot.”

Nice little boost for Silent Witness' overnights in the morning!

#Sam Hodges: #Silent Witness peaks with 10m, beating every single tv channel on Planet Earth (excludes +1)

paltonz
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Seven
18:00 Seven News: 1.40m
18:30 Dancing with the Stars: 991k
21:00 Bones: 1.00m

Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday: 1.48m
18:30 The Voice Australia: 2.69m
*highest rated episode to date.
20:30 Beaconsfield: 1.63m

Ten
18:30 The Biggest Loser: Singles: 780k
19:30 Modern Family: 754k
20:00 New Girl: 589k
20:30 New Series: Touch: 742k

Nine dominates Sunday with a 38.2% share of viewing, an increase of 1 whole share point on last Sunday.

Seven and Ten could only muster 19.3% and 13.1% respectively.”

That is really high for The Voice and they are only in week 2! Nine really did come out fighting with this one. Beaconsfield did brilliant as well. Seven and Ten must be kicking themselves right now.
iaindb
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I think Countryfile seems to have taken on some sort of PSB "sacred cow" hold on the weekly schedules - new show or compilation, it is always on now, every week of the year. Even at Christmas, it was on but displaced to Wednesdays.”

The farmers need to see the Weather For The Week Ahead.

Originally Posted by snoorhoff:
“Amazing how De Mol made an instant-hit show once again. I'm so curious how I Love My Country will score on the BBC since it's a big hit here in Holland, compareble with the Voice. It does depend on the capitains/ presenter to make it work thou.”

Reading about this on Wikipedia, I don't see this doing any better than any of the other routine quiz shows we see on Saturday night. 4m something at best.
KennyT
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by AcerBen:
“I believe (someone may correct me) one person in the sample equals 10,000 people”

Nearly right. It's about 5,000.

K
derek500
23-04-2012
Confused.

Quote:
“Saturday 24th March Overnights
ITV1
20:00- Britain's Got Talent: 9.42m (39.16%) , +1: 567k (2.54%) ”

In the officials, BGT isn't in ITV1+1 top ten (bottom place 49k)

Quote:
“Saturday 31st March Overnights
ITV1
20:00- Britain's Got Talent: 10.28m (41.3%) , +1: 548k (2.4%)”

In the officials BGT once again not in ITV1+1's top ten (bottom place 86k).

When you add the overnight +1 figures to the official ITV1 and ITV1 HD ones, BGT is 2m ahead of The Voice.

Mar 25, BGT 11.438m, TV 9.439m
Mar 31, BGT 12.085m, TV 9.929m

No HD figures for Apr 7.
KennyT
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Confused.



In the officials, BGT isn't in ITV1+1 top ten (bottom place 49k)



In the officials BGT once again not in ITV1+1's top ten (bottom place 86k)...”

rzt pointed out that the ITV1+1 officials are screwed (when I asked the same question in the earlier thread) and should get revised in the "6-week" cycle.

K
D.M.N.
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“But surely the shares would've held up? The Voice's share last week was 45.5% compared to 42.3% this week. Britain's Got Talent share last week was 39.5% (+1: 2.3%) compared to 38.2% (+1: 2.2%) this week.”

Not quite - the total audience level would have stayed the same, the switchover just means that the audience maybe slightly more spread out.:

The Voice's Slot
Last Week: 23.5m
This Week: 23.4m
=> drop of 0.1m total audience*, drop of 0.79m for The Voice

BGT's Slot
Last Week: 25.4m
This Week: 24.9m
=> drop of 0.5m total audience*, drop of 0.52m for BGT

* within the margin of error due to all the rounding

Originally Posted by derek500:
“Confused.”

I think trickytree1979 noted a few weeks ago that there were some issues with ITV1+1's overnights in that BARB were not getting all the program data off ITV.
derek500
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“rzt pointed out that the ITV1+1 officials are screwed (when I asked the same question in the earlier thread) and should get revised in the "6-week" cycle.

K”

Quote:
“I think trickytree1979 noted a few weeks ago that there were some issues with ITV1+1's overnights in that BARB were not getting all the program data off ITV.”

Thanks.

Bottom line is, more viewers watch BGT than The Voice and more viewers watch The Voice than the ad breaks in BGT.
Agent F
23-04-2012
“@Sam_Hodges: #TheVoice averages 10.1m for the second Battle episode - over twice the audience of any other channel in its slot. #BBC1”

https://twitter.com/sam_hodges/statu...43781884108801

11.3m peak for The Voice. 6.1m average for Silent Witness.

Source: Sam Hodges
jake lyle
23-04-2012
The Voice UK 10.1m -peak 11.3m, 8-9pm 10.58m
Silent Witness 6.1m
London Marathon average 3.1m, peak 4m.
#FI Grand Prix highlights 3.6m, Peak 4.1m

Agent F has Vera >>>
Agent F
23-04-2012
“@Jake_Kanter: Vera has fallen victim to #TheVoiceUK. The drama averaged 4.32m from 8pm-9pm, while BBC1’s talent show got 10.58m viewers at the same time.”

https://twitter.com/jake_kanter/stat...44894574239744
D.M.N.
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Agent F:
““@Jake_Kanter: Vera has fallen victim to #TheVoiceUK. The drama averaged 4.32m from 8pm-9pm, while BBC1’s talent show got 10.58m viewers at the same time.”

https://twitter.com/jake_kanter/stat...44894574239744”

Not really 'fell victim', I bet its one of the only show besides BGT to have got over 4m against The Voice.
RobbieSykes123
23-04-2012
Vera really should have done better than 4.3m, when you think how resilient BBC1's "older Sunday" fare has done against TXF, DOI etc - eg, Call the Midwife, Lark Rise, George Gently, Garrow's Law, Antiques Roadshow...

I wonder if the current SW 2-parter proves more viewer-friendly than last weeks?
Score
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Not really 'fell victim', I bet its one of the only show besides BGT to have got over 4m against The Voice.”

Indeed. The whole episode averaged 4.8m (inc +1) which considering it started midway through The Voice and then faced Silent Witness really isn't bad.

Voice did well, although it was below my expectations. Really surprised Silent Witness dropped week on week despite an 11m+ lead-in and Voice overrun.
jake lyle
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“Indeed. The whole episode averaged 4.8m (inc +1) which considering it started midway through The Voice and then faced Silent Witness really isn't bad. .”

Consideing how Antiques Roadshow and George Gently etc perform against The X Factor it was very poor indeed.

Originally Posted by Score:
“Voice did well, although it was below my expectations..”

Mmnn The Voice got 10.6m between 8-9. You were spinning 11m figures for The X factor results last Autumn in the middle of Winter as still great
But a 4 week old show getting those figures is now below your expectations right... no agenda there
jake lyle
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Not really 'fell victim', I bet its one of the only show besides BGT to have got over 4m against The Voice.”

I think there is a bit of a difference between Harry hill repeats/ Cheap family Fortunes and an expensive Drama starring Brenda Blethyn. No?
Score
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Consideing how Antiques Roadshow and George Gently etc perform against The X Factor it was very poor indeed.”

Those shows had 5-6m lead-ins though which Vera won't have had. It was only about 0.5-1m below those shows anyway.

Quote:
“Mmnn The Voice got 10.6m between 8-9. You were spinning 11m figures for The X factor results last Autumn in the middle of Winter as still great
But a 4 week old show getting those figures is now below your expectations right... no agenda there”

Of course it did well, that's why I started with 'Voice did well'. However the fact that it was -0.6m down on last week despite a later slot and airing on Sunday not Saturday puts it below my expectations. The Sunday slot alone should have added 0.5-1m.

As for X Factor, I consistently said the ratings were still good but down a lot year on year, which was true. No 'spinning', which you'd realise if you checked your facts before you rolled your eyes.
SamuelW
23-04-2012
Jake lyle, why do you always roll your eyes at other posters in every post you make? Its rude and patronising. The Voice adapted well to its new slot, it is a little bit lower than last weeks rating but 10.1m for a month old show is fab. Vera, well i think Itv would want 5m for their dramas. What was it getting last year?
grimshaw
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Vera really should have done better than 4.3m, when you think how resilient BBC1's "older Sunday" fare has done against TXF, DOI etc - eg, Call the Midwife, Lark Rise, George Gently, Garrow's Law, Antiques Roadshow...”

Bit unfair Robbie, Vera never had such a high audience if I remember rightly, and 4.3 is akin to how BBC does on Saturdays.

Also DOI, is not the voice as well you know I think.

Its a waste in that slot, but a decent rating I suppose.

Quote:
“I wonder if the current SW 2-parter proves more viewer-friendly than last weeks?”

After weeks of being let down, I didn't watch it last night.
We'll see how it does tomorrow, if its down again then they need to move to weekly episodes (like Luthers second series did)


Good to see The Voice do well. I think its audience will now just fall on either side of that 10m mark, staying pretty resilient,
grimshaw
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by Score:
“Of course it did well, that's why I started with 'Voice did well'. However the fact that it was -0.6m down on last week despite a later slot and airing on Sunday not Saturday puts it below my expectations. The Sunday slot alone should have added 0.5-1m.”

I revised my predictions down last night, expecting people not to really know its on kind of thing?

X Factor doesn't just find miraculous viewers on a Sunday, its that many people planning to watch it are in on a sunday.
D.M.N.
23-04-2012
Sunday 22nd April 2012
BBC One
08:30 - London Marathon: 3.06m (30.8%)
* peak: 4.0m
17:00 - Formula 1: The Bahrain Grand Prix: 3.65m (20.2%)
* peak: 4.1m
18:45 - Countryfile: 5.88m (27.3%)
19:30 - The Voice: 10.09m (38.5%)
* peak: 11.3m
21:00 - Silent Witness: 6.09m (24.2%)

BBC Two
20:00 - Indian Ocean with Simon Reeve: 1.95m (7.2%)
21:00 - Ewan McGregor: Cold Chain Mission: 1.75m (7.0%)
22:00 - Match of the Day 2: 2.99m (17.1%)

ITV1
19:00 - All Star Family Fortunes: 3.74m (15.9%)
* +1: 345k (1.6%)
* I suspect the +1 was lower than that...
20:00 - Vera: 4.48m (17.2%)
* +1: 345k (1.6%)

Channel 4
21:00 - Homeland: 1.91m (7.6%)
* +1: 388k (2.1%)

Channel 5
21:00 - Once Upon a Time: 1.34m (5.3%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One - 29.4%
ITV1 - 14.8% (+1: 1.1%)
BBC Two - 8.2%
Channel 4 - 5.2% (+1: 1%)
Channel 5 - 4.4% (+1: 0.2%)
ITV2 - 3.2% (+1: 0.7%)
ITV3 - 2.0%
BBC Three - 1.8%

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary.

Multichannels
BBC Three
00:00 - Russell Howard's Good News: 502k (8.3%)

E4
22:00 - Desperate Housewives: 502k (2.8%)
* +1: 145k (1.5%)

ITV2
21:00 - Benidorm: 1.02m (4.0%)
* +1: 131k (0.7%)
22:00 - The Only Way Is Essex: 1.10m (5.7%)

Sky1
21:00 - Hawaii Five-0: 467k (1.9%)

Sky Sports 1
12:00 - Live Ford Super Sunday: 1.14m (9.6%)
15:00 - Live Ford Super Sunday: 1.27m (8.0%)

Sky Sports F1
11:30 - Live Bahrain Grand Prix: 1.4m
* peak: 1.6m
* race average only

Source: DS (1), (2), Sky Media Updates
JWheel
23-04-2012
[QUOTE

After weeks of being let down, I didn't watch it last night.

[/quote]

If you're a fan of the show I'd give last night's a watch - easily the strongest story of current series and a real return to form - not to say they might not cock it up tonight!
dave01
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC Two
22:00 - Match of the Day 2: 2.99m (17.1%)”

Nice rating for MOTD2.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“ITV1
20:00 - Vera: 4.48m (17.2%)
* +1: 345k (1.6%)”

Vera did alright, but I think ITV will have been hoping for more. When The Voice settles into its 7:30pm-8:00pm slot then Vera should pick up.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Channel 5
21:00 - Once Upon a Time: 1.34m (5.3%) ”

I assume this was moved to avoid The Voice but unfortunately it does seem to have taken a dip in the ratings. At this sort of level though it is still a good show for Channel 5.
D.M.N.
23-04-2012
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/rating...&contentID=870

Quote:
“The BBC1 show did overrun for four minutes, leading an ITV spokesman to Tweet: “Probably just a rather strange coincidence that #TheVoiceUK overran by three minutes last night and overlapped with #BGT …those kind of overruns only normally tend to happen on live shows, don’t they?”

BBC insiders have explained that the battle rounds were originally intended to be 100 minutes long, but have been cut back to avoid an overlap with Britain’s Got Talent after ITV moved the show to an 8.30pm slot.”

Charnham
23-04-2012
lets be honest, those 3 minutes will mean very little to the start of a show like BGT.
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