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The Ratings Thread (Part 34)
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cylon6
29-04-2012
And this is why I never play the DS Ratings Prediction Game because I would have no points! With poor weather across the country I expected The Voice to be above 10m. BGT did well as usual but I expected both to peak higher.
rzt
29-04-2012
Pointless Celebrities averaged 3.9m, peaking at 4.3m.

That's a good rating considering the early timeslot it was in. It should've been leading into The Voice UK.
Tassium
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“The Voice beat Britains Got Talent in audience share, this is what some of the journalists are running with. Lee Holmewood says The Voice beat BGT with 42% to 40%.

9.3m is still excellent for The Voice because it was its first ever live episode and they werent as polished as they could be in the future. It might be back top next week because Bgt finishes at 10:15pm.”

Yes of course, audience share...

When Chelsea beat Barcelona in that Champ L. match the other day it was actually a victory for Barcelona since they had more possession, 82.5% !

And look at that territorial advantage, 81.7% to Barcelona.

Chelsea were the losers really!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...at-counts.html
Rooftopcowboy
29-04-2012
Little bit disappointing for the The Voice, but I am sure it will still grow and rate highly on the repeat.

most of the audience/press reaction has praised how good the singers and the set was, and the main negative comments were on some of the camera work, Holly's presenting style and the backing dancers...all easy things to fix for next week.

Surprised the Beeb are moving it to Friday when Eurovision is on though, I though they'd have just given it an earlier timeslot. A lot of people have Eurovision parties, and the Voice would have been a great warm-up. A Voice-Eurovision night is my idea of TV heaven!
gottago
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“I think it'll prove to be quite difficult for The Voice to hit 9.3m again for a Saturday episode until the finale. Last night there was some pretty bad weather and obviously it had more press attention on it due to it being its first live show to potentially pull in extra viewers. The competition it faces (even if it's FA Cup Final post-match filler) gets tougher from next week, the weather probably won't be as bad as last night and there might just be a few viewers who tuned in yesterday who won't tune in until the finale. It'll be interesting seeing how the Sunday episode rates - last week the 7.30-8pm period had 9.1m whilst the 8-9pm rated significantly better (almost 11m) which pulled up its average to 10.1m. The BBC, to their credit though, have so far done a good job of preventing the results from leaking.


This has now changed and it's back on Saturday. It'll probably air about 7-8pm just before Eurovision starts.”

Or presumably 6:50-7:50 so the lottery can be squeezed in.
SouthCity
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by Rooftopcowboy:
“Surprised the Beeb are moving it to Friday when Eurovision is on though, I though they'd have just given it an earlier timeslot. A lot of people have Eurovision parties, and the Voice would have been a great warm-up. A Voice-Eurovision night is my idea of TV heaven!”

ITV1 are showing Norway v England (international friendly) on 26th May. The KO is 7.45pm but the build-up will probably start at 7.15pm.

Could this have influenced the BBC's decision to move The Voice to Friday?
Rooftopcowboy
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“ITV1 are showing Norway v England (international friendly) on 26th May. The KO is 7.45pm but the build-up will probably start at 7.15pm.

Could this have influenced the BBC's decision to move The Voice to Friday?”

Possibly, but not sure Norway-England will be of much interest the Voice's audience. Interest/confidence in the England team seems to be at a low point (in my lifetime anyway) but of course that could all change if they get a new manager on board and the Euro2012 hype builds.
Agent F
29-04-2012
You know you're clutching at straws when you have to look at the audience share....
ftv
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by ronant:
“It will be interesting to see what happens next week with the FA Cup Final on ITV. ITV will have the massive advantage of probably a huge 10m leading right into their peak time schedule. It would be ridiculous if they lost them - The Cube should have double it's normal audience, and it should really drag The Voice down big time. ”

It's a long time since an FA Cup Final got over 10 million
Puterkid
29-04-2012
TV needs to buck up it's ideas if it's not to start haemoraging viewers wholesale. Bland, boring and repetitive:yawn:.
rzt
29-04-2012
Saturday 28th April Overnights
BBC One
17:35- Pointless Celebrities: 3.97m (22.6%)
18:30- My Family: 2.8m (14.7%)
19:00- The Voice UK: 9.33m (41.8%)
* peak: 10.3m (44%)
20:30- The National Lottery: In It To Win It: 4.57m (18.8%)
21:20- Casualty: 4.57m (20.3%)

BBC Two
21:30- I Love 1972: 2.18m (10.1%)

ITV1
18:15- Keith Lemon's Lemonaid: 2.39m (12.6%)
19:00- You've Been Framed!: 2.67m (12.3%)
19:30- The Cube: 2.71m (12%) , +1: 122k
20:30- Britain's Got Talent: 9.67m (41.8%) , +1: 489k (2.3%)
* peak (exc +1): 10.7m (43%)
* peak (inc +1): 11.3m (45%)

21:30- Benidorm: 2.5m (11.6%) , +1: 174k (1.1%)

Channel 4
21:30- Terminator Salvation: 1.66m (8.8%)

Channel 5
22:10- CSI NY: 1.28m (6.7%)

BBC Four
21:00- The Bridge: 787k (3.3%)
22:00- The Bridge: 683k (3.5%)

ITV2
21:30- Britain's Got More Talent: 1.07m (4.9%) , +1: 239k

Sky Atlantic
22:00- Smash: 55k (0.3%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 28.5%
ITV1: 19.5% (+1: 0.9%)
BBC Two: 6%
Channel 4: 5.7% (+1: 0.6%)
Channel 5: 3.6% (+1: 0.1%)

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary
sn_22
29-04-2012
The Voice's momentum has slowed, which perhaps isn't surprising when you take in the international precedents. In fact, the show has followed the standard route quite closely so far - big launch, big growth, then a slow levelling off and fall. As rzt says, May is a tough old month for BBC One saturday nights in terms of opposition (ask Doctor Who!) so I can't see The Voice bucking the trend from here.

Also, the live's are clearly the least innovative or interesting part of the format. And because of the nicely nicely approach, combined with blink-and-you'll-miss-it battle rounds and alternate performances for the lives - they can't really create the effective week-to-week soap opera that tends to power TXF, or indeed to an extent, Strictly when they reach this stage.

BGT's performance is very solid indeed, and presuming that it follows it's usual pattern for the live week, should be on course to match or exceed the past couple of years which would be a great result.
dillan
29-04-2012
Very happy BGT beat The Voice. The Voice was awful last night, can't believe how over-rated its become.
Joe40
29-04-2012
The FA Cup has been treated shamefully by the FA for the last decade, ever since they gave Man Utd permission to not play and take part in a tinpot World Club championship instead.
Ever since then, the bigger clubs have often played reserve teams in the early rounds.

In the old days (jumpers for goalposts, isn't it, wasn't it?), you would have Cup Final breakfast, Cup Final pro-celebrity golf, Cup Final meet-a-celeb-who's never-been-to-a-game-before, and so on. (So all credit to ESPN for trying to bring back the magic of the Cup). But the Football League in their wisdom is having a full league 1 and league 2 programme on Saturday at 3pm, with many promotion and relegation issues still in the air. (Arsenal also play Norwich at 12.45pm).

The FA Cup Final isn't the only game in town this Saturday. Many football fans won't be at home by 5.15pm.
Score
29-04-2012
Good to see BGT above 10m tapechecked again - it hasn't dipped below it yet. ITV's night was a disaster once you remove BGT from the equation though. Lemonaid is dead - you know it's bad when you're beaten by a repeat of the axed My Family! The Voice is killing YBF and The Cube, whilst Benidorm repeats aren't working out of BGT at all. In contrast BBC1 had a good night apart from the My Family repeat.

What I think this shows is that ITV need to air older skewing stuff against The Voice. BBC1 are doing well with older skewing stuff against BGT and ITV should do the same against TVUK. It'll be interesting to see how Millionaire does against it next week as next year they could air that against it weekly. I bet it'd do better than The Cube did last night.
C14E
29-04-2012
So The Voice didn't win on audience share either...

The Sun have "BGT Recaptures Ratings Crown From The Voice" but it'll be interesting to see if The Mirror and The Daily Mail acknowledge it. Might be a good idea for ITV/Syco PR to take over Cowell's Twitter account and post the relevant figures... after all, Twitter is the second most used for DM articles (after beach bikini pics).
iaindb
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 28th April Overnights
BBC One
17:35- Pointless Celebrities: 3.97m (22.6%)
18:30- My Family: 2.8m (14.7%)
19:00- The Voice UK: 9.33m (41.8%)
* peak: 10.3m (44%)
20:30- The National Lottery: In It To Win It: 4.57m (18.8%)
21:20- Casualty: 4.57m (20.3%)

ITV1
18:15- Keith Lemon's Lemonaid: 2.39m (12.6%)
19:00- You've Been Framed!: 2.67m (12.3%)
19:30- The Cube: 2.71m (12%) , +1: 122k
20:30- Britain's Got Talent: 9.67m (41.8%) , +1: 489k (2.3%)
* peak (exc +1): 10.7m (43%)
* peak (inc +1): 11.3m (45%)

21:30- Benidorm: 2.5m (11.6%) , +1: 174k (1.1%)
”

Now we know why BBC1 put My Family repeats on at 6.30 - just to heap on the humiliation for Keith Lemon and his fanboy fans at ITV1.

Suddenly My Family has become my all-time favourite comedy series. (But only until I have the misfortune to accidentally see another clip of it)


And In It To Win It doing as well against BGT as Casualty did against a repeat of Benidorm. I know Casualty adds quite a bit on timeshift but it should really be doing better than it does. Perhaps the BBC should drastically cut back on the number of episodes they make every year.

DQF, BBC - Defining Quality First. Quality not quantity, BBC.
happy tv
29-04-2012
The ratings for BGT and the Voice are excellent for this time of the year. If they were shown during the dark Winter evenings, they would probably be 2-3 million higher. I think people may have too high expectations for this time of year.
C14E
29-04-2012
Just looking across the other numbers and one thing stood out... 19.5% primetime share despite BGT on 42% for over an hour?

Nothing else over 3m or a 13% share is really poor for ITV. I guess with the "aim old" theory the question is whether they can make money doing that for entertainment series which are usually sold on 16-34 viewers. But they really need to be doing better.

Poor move by BBC1 scheduling Pointless Celebs before My Family. Good performance for that slot and at that time the next show should really be building, not falling.
Joe40
29-04-2012
Football SPOILER

Spoiler
Chelsea threatening a cricket score against QPR, live on SS1 now, highlights on MOTD2 later
D.M.N.
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“18:15- Keith Lemon's Lemonaid: 2.39m (12.6%)
19:00- You've Been Framed!: 2.67m (12.3%)
19:30- The Cube: 2.71m (12%) , +1: 122k
21:30- Benidorm: 2.5m (11.6%) , +1: 174k (1.1%)”

Not only are these figures worthy, but they are also embarrassing for the leading commercial broadcaster in the UK.

Lemonaid should be on ITV2, where, I'm pretty sure it would do decently. But no way should it be on ITV1.
Brekkie
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by rzt:
“#TheVoiceUK averages 9.3m/41.8% share, peaking at 10.3m #BBC1

Source: Sam Hodges

It appears the positive momentum the show was experiencing a few weeks ago has slowed down, with it down for a second week in a row. Interesting Sam didn't tweet it was the most watched show of the day...”

Not a disaster though, but it could be hit over the next four weeks with the FA Cup Final (ITV would love extra time!), BGT Final, Champions League Final then Eurovision bumping it out of the schedule (though I'd air it 6.30-8.00 rather than Friday). I also think the lack of honesty and competitiveness amongst the judges - two factors that make The X Factor work - will do it not favours. The format means the judges aren't actually competing until the final due to the elimination format.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Not only are these figures worthy, but they are also embarrassing for the leading commercial broadcaster in the UK.

Lemonaid should be on ITV2, where, I'm pretty sure it would do decently. But no way should it be on ITV1.”

I have to agree - ITV can get the ratings for the big shows but the complementary shows around these shows are generally failing.

At the moment - especially with My Family at 6.30pm, I'd be putting Family Fortunes at 6.30pm to lead into The Cube at 7.30pm and try and get that older audience in before they risk The Voice.
Superior
29-04-2012
Originally Posted by Puterkid:
“TV needs to buck up it's ideas if it's not to start haemoraging viewers wholesale. Bland, boring and repetitive:yawn:.”


Boy, you said it computer kid.

All these people arguing over which is the tastier shit sandwhich. And all trying to say how thier shit sandwhich really is nothing like the other persons shit sandwhich.

Which to people on the outside, watching people argue over "which is the better turd", looks quite hillarious.

Long live the internet.

Before people moan, I come here to note the inexorable decline in TV viewership, as TV is obsolete and dying a slow but much needed death.
Tassium
29-04-2012
Since the audiences for The Voice/BGT will have a certain amount of cross-over I would say more than half the total TV audience are rather annoyed at this turn of telly events.

People who are sick of these "talent" shows must feel quite excluded.
Yoshi Fan
29-04-2012
ITV need to move The Cube back to Sunday nights I think. I found it worked better in the Sunday 7:00 slot and while it's not to everybody's taste, it deserves a better slot than being up against The Voice.

Glad to see Keith Lemon's show getting slaughtered by a My Family repeat. I can't stand Lemon and I wish ITV would stop promoting him on primetime like he's some kind of popular presenter. He's had moderate success on one ITV2 show and that's where he should stay.:sleep:
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