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Roast Chicken
HazzaGrazza
14-04-2012
Afternoon everyone,

A friend told me about a recipe for roast chicken the other day, that I wanted to try tomorrow....but i'm not sure if it's safe or not?

Basically you clean out the chicken cavity and put in creme fraiche, herbs etc and then stuff the cavity with a lemon to stop it leaking out.

When the chicken is cooked, the inside ingrendients creates a creamy sauce to use instead of gravy. Do you think this would be safe to do? I've heard some bad things about eating stuffing thats cooked inside the bird.
paulmaster
14-04-2012
As long as it is cooked through i cant see there being a problem with it. Sounds good by the way
K's Kitchen
14-04-2012
I have never, ever heard of that before. The thing about not putting anything inside the bird is all about putting raw meat inside - like your stuffing mixture. Creme Fraiche will probably be red hot within a half an hour - and there is no cooking involved before you eat creme fraiche.

I really have not heard of this recipe before but I would be interested to find out how it turns out - it sounds weird though because I would have thought that you could have just added the creme to the juices to get a creamy sauce rather than cook it in the bird itself - Please if you try this - let us all know how it turns out
K's Kitchen
14-04-2012
Originally Posted by K's Kitchen:
“I have never, ever heard of that before. The thing about not putting anything inside the bird is all about putting raw meat inside - like your stuffing mixture. Creme Fraiche will probably be red hot within a half an hour - and there is no cooking involved before you eat creme fraiche.

I really have not heard of this recipe before but I would be interested to find out how it turns out - it sounds weird though because I would have thought that you could have just added the creme to the juices to get a creamy sauce rather than cook it in the bird itself - Please if you try this - let us all know how it turns out ”



Oh I forgot to say that the raw meat inside the bird adds to the cooking time and thats what folks have forgotten and just cook the bird for the recommended time minus the stuffing cooking time - equals food poisoning!
HazzaGrazza
14-04-2012
Ahhh thanks K, I thought this was the reason. I have cooked stuffing inside a bird before and upped the time accordingly, so must of been why I was ok lol

I was the same of you, had never heard of the method but thought it was a brilliant idea. I will post some pics tomorrow.
K's Kitchen
15-04-2012
Originally Posted by HazzaGrazza:
“Ahhh thanks K, I thought this was the reason. I have cooked stuffing inside a bird before and upped the time accordingly, so must of been why I was ok lol

I was the same of you, had never heard of the method but thought it was a brilliant idea. I will post some pics tomorrow.”

Cant wait to see the pics and hear your view - am very interested!
whoever,hey
15-04-2012
As long as you check the temperature in the thickest part of the bird you should be ok. Filling cavity is really not recommended with a massive bird like a turkey, but for a chicken its about not drying out the breast whilst you wait for the legs to cook.
HazzaGrazza
15-04-2012
K, Hazza here reporting back........bad news unfortunately lol

Basically the creme fraiche practically solidified in the cavity, which meant no sauce whatsoever.

Bisto to the rescue though hehe
c00kiemonster72
15-04-2012
Originally Posted by HazzaGrazza:
“K, Hazza here reporting back........bad news unfortunately lol

Basically the creme fraiche practically solidified in the cavity, which meant no sauce whatsoever.

Bisto to the rescue though hehe”

Oh that's a shame
fainéant
17-04-2012
I heard recently that there is no need to clean a chicken inside or out as any nasty stuff gets killed anyway in the high temperature.

I think it was on Masterchef actually and they also said that washing the bird is actually more dangerous because in doing so you increase the risk of cross-contamination by releasing any bacteria into other parts of the kitchen.
dadioflex
18-04-2012
Originally Posted by fainéant:
“I heard recently that there is no need to clean a chicken inside or out as any nasty stuff gets killed anyway in the high temperature.

I think it was on Masterchef actually and they also said that washing the bird is actually more dangerous because in doing so you increase the risk of cross-contamination by releasing any bacteria into other parts of the kitchen.”

Agreed.

If you're determined to clean inside the bird, put it into a pot of boiling water for a couple of minutes, but it really isn't necessary.
Phyllis Stein
18-04-2012
Originally Posted by fainéant:
“I heard recently that there is no need to clean a chicken inside or out as any nasty stuff gets killed anyway in the high temperature.

I think it was on Masterchef actually and they also said that washing the bird is actually more dangerous because in doing so you increase the risk of cross-contamination by releasing any bacteria into other parts of the kitchen.”

I've been saying this for years! Feeling validated and more than a little smug now
K's Kitchen
18-04-2012
Originally Posted by HazzaGrazza:
“K, Hazza here reporting back........bad news unfortunately lol

Basically the creme fraiche practically solidified in the cavity, which meant no sauce whatsoever.

Bisto to the rescue though hehe”


Hi - just saw your reply here! I am surprised - I thought it would have ran right out the bird! lol Oh well am glad you had bisto on standby - I swear by bisto!
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