[Satnavvy]

I find the idea of SC doing anything with women quite laughable

[princesskate]

Originally Posted by Satnavvy

I find the idea of SC doing anything with women quite laughable

Yup, this! ^^

I was driving the car on Sunday when I heard, 'breaking news about Simon Cowell... you will not believe this...' and I thought - Finally he's admitted it - but no...

[johartuk]

Originally Posted by Goaty

She was honest, everyone thought she vile, cos they all like Dannii...

I still think she's vile. Sorry, but the latest revelations re: Simon and Dannii do nothing to cancel out all the nastiness that Sharon has spouted over the years. Sadly, though, Sharon will try to twist this to suit her own agenda.

[HenryBane]

Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka

Apparently Simon was "secretly" engaged to page three girl in the 90's. Why would something this even need to be kept a secret, he wasn't even famous back then?

And why didn't it come out 10 years ago when Max Clifford needed a story, yet went to great lengths to create stories for him? If Max has needed to bury 100s of stories about Simon over the years then obviously these stories aren't about his heterosexual conquests, but something else. Most think it's covering up a gay lifestyle, lets hope it's nothing sinister or sordid along the lines of the Jimmy Saville rumours.

[zx50]

Originally Posted by HenryBane

And why didn't it come out 10 years ago when Max Clifford needed a story, yet went great lengths to create stories for him? If Max has needed to bury 100s of stories about Simon over the years then obviously these stories aren't about his heterosexual conquests, but something else. Most think it's covering up a gay lifestyle, lets hope it's nothing sinister or sordid along the lines of the Jimmy Saville rumours.

If it was, his career would be over.

[IvanIV]

^^^ Cliff Maxford's strategy so far was to give Simon a fiancee, a serious relationship, which unfortunately for him meant to be seen with her, having his tonsils checked by her on occasion, etc. With affairs, ONSs and the lot it's enough to just "leak" the story, it's actually more cost effective, too.

[IvanIV]

BTW wouldn't it be funny if they dropped XFUS in US, because of Simon being such a slut

[I Owns It!]

Max is always saying about how his gay clients come to him for cover stories. He is now making it so obvious which of these clients it is.

No one is buying any of it now and the rumours are all over twitter. Once it starts on this scale you never know where its going to end so all they have done is feed the theories.

[jujubee]

What are the Jimmy saville rumours?

[HenryBane]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

^^^ Cliff Maxford's strategy so far was to give Simon a fiancee, a serious relationship, which unfortunately for him meant to be seen with her, having his tonsils checked by her on occasion, etc. With affairs, ONSs and the lot it's enough to just "leak" the story, it's actually more cost effective, too.

But they don't seem to work anymore, only his die-hard fans actually think he's had sex with these women.

[downtonfan]

It's amazing that not ONE man has come forward to make a claim against Simon for being gay. There was a few around Tom Cruise what did.

[Vodka_Drinka]

Originally Posted by jujubee

What are the Jimmy saville rumours?

Oh god, where do we start? Maybe it's for the best if we don't.

I thought Max's claims on This Morning about not wanting Simon to collaborate with this writer sounded quite believable. Max has been doing this kind of thing for 40 odd years, he knows his stuff and is very good at what he does. This whole thing is ammateur by comparisan.

[Eurostar]

Originally Posted by jujubee

What are the Jimmy saville rumours?

Underage people for starters.

[methodyguy]

All these stories about Simon couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that The Voice is currently overtaking BGT in the ratings

[HenryBane]

Originally Posted by methodyguy

All these stories about Simon couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that The Voice is currently overtaking BGT in the ratings

The book was being written long before anyone knew what the ratings would be like, the timing could have something to do with it, but could also be due to David Walliams going too far with his camp routine with Simon and upsetting him so much Max has had to find another glamour model to say she had a relationship with him.

[methodyguy]

Originally Posted by HenryBane

The book was being written long before anyone knew what the ratings would be like, the timing could have something to do with it, but could also be due to David Walliams going too far with his camp routine with Simon and upsetting him so much Max has had to find another glamour model to say she had a relationship with him.

Haha if Simon is gay why all the pretence ? No one blinks an eye now if a celeb or otherwise comes out. Be brave Simon it is 2012 not 1912

[Eurostar]

Originally Posted by HenryBane

The book was being written long before anyone knew what the ratings would be like, the timing could have something to do with it, but could also be due to David Walliams going too far with his camp routine with Simon and upsetting him so much Max has had to find another glamour model to say she had a relationship with him.

Yes, I thought Cowell looked seriously rattled by Walliams' gay jibes on the Jonathan Ross Show.

[GerriP]

For all the people who think that Simon's 'gifts' and 'payoffs' to ex girlfriends are proof that he's gay - where are the equivilent pay off and gifts to the men that he would need to keep quiet?

I honestly don't think he is gay because for a start there would be more tales about men (he hasn't always been rich and powerful enough to pay people off - i suspect he still isn't THAT rich to pay off in the way people are suggesting either) and in his industry what actualy hinderance would it be if he was? Just doesn't make any sense

And the not settling down thing but staying mates with the ex? Don't we all know normal blokes like that? I can name three who are regulars at my local pub who profile like Simon Cowell without the riches

As for Danii! I was one of those who thought it was gumph yesterday, but happy to admit that i was wrong. I wouldn't have thought he was her type!

[Tweacle Tart II]

Originally Posted by methodyguy

Haha if Simon is gay why all the pretence ? No one blinks an eye now if a celeb or otherwise comes out. Be brave Simon it is 2012 not 1912

They do in America. There is NO WAY Mr Cowell would have the power or career he has there if he was openly gay.

Originally Posted by lola14

She said it at the time, but no-one beleived her! Everything was going the new girls way, because she was sleeping with the boss! No wonder she was mad!

Originally Posted by Thank you

I knew Sharon was right all along and Dannii hasn't denied it so its 100% true. Wouldn't surprise me if Simon and Cheryl's flirting was all an act for the camera's. Though Dannii fans are still making out she is sweetness and light trying to convince themselves that nothing went on, now we know how Dannii kept for job for so long.

Sexual favours for an job she wasn't qualified for in the first place good old saint Dannii offering it on an plate!

I don't believe it and, as others have pointed out, Dannii is in a no win situation as she's still on Cowell's payroll. I think silence is her only option. But none of this detracts from the fact that Sharon Osbourne is a hideous, bitter, classless old hag, with a mouth like a navvy, whose idea of a good time is sending someone her children's faeces in a box. Utterly vile woman!

[dog_eat_dog]

Originally Posted by methodyguy

Haha if Simon is gay why all the pretence ? No one blinks an eye now if a celeb or otherwise comes out. Be brave Simon it is 2012 not 1912

This.

Simon has no need to cover his sexuality up in this day and age. The conspiracy theories around his supposed homosexuality are laughable.

The guy's in entertainment long enough to know coming out is unlikely to have any bearing whatsoever on his career, especially someone so powerful and who would continue to be successful without being a sexual poster boy for women - his career doesn't depend on him being a heart-throb!

Somehow I doubt Dannii or Sharon Osborne would agree to be part of some sad cover-up act. There's absolutely nothing in it for them at the end of the day.

[methodyguy]

Originally Posted by GerriP

For all the people who think that Simon's 'gifts' and 'payoffs' to ex girlfriends are proof that he's gay - where are the equivilent pay off and gifts to the men that he would need to keep quiet?

I honestly don't think he is gay because for a start there would be more tales about men (he hasn't always been rich and powerful enough to pay people off - i suspect he still isn't THAT rich to pay off in the way people are suggesting either) and in his industry what actualy hinderance would it be if he was? Just doesn't make any sense

And the not settling down thing but staying mates with the ex? Don't we all know normal blokes like that? I can name three who are regulars at my local pub who profile like Simon Cowell
without the riches

As for Danii! I was one of those who thought it was gumph yesterday, but happy to admit that i was wrong. I wouldn't have thought he was her type!

I wouldn't have thought that Simon would have been Danniis type either.

Your point about no male exes coming out with kiss and tell stories is all down to having a very good PR representative and love him or loathe him one has to admit that Max Clifford is very good at what he does. If Simon is gay I am sure there have been male lovers with stories to tell the have all been "persuaded" to keep quiet.

[Alrightmate]

Originally Posted by downtonfan

It's amazing that not ONE man has come forward to make a claim against Simon for being gay. There was a few around Tom Cruise what did.

When it comes to PR do you think the job is just about what stories you get into tabloid articles?

[marianner]

Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog

This.

Simon has no need to cover his sexuality up in this day and age. The conspiracy theories around his supposed homosexuality are laughable.

The guy's in entertainment long enough to know coming out is unlikely to have any bearing whatsoever on his career, especially someone so powerful and who would continue to be successful without being a sexual poster boy for women - his career doesn't depend on him being a heart-throb!

Somehow I doubt Dannii or Sharon Osborne would agree to be part of some sad cover-up act. There's absolutely nothing in it for them at the end of the day.

Very well said. I agree with all the above.

[IvanIV]

Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog

This.

Simon has no need to cover his sexuality up in this day and age. The conspiracy theories around his supposed homosexuality are laughable.

The guy's in entertainment long enough to know coming out is unlikely to have any bearing whatsoever on his career, especially someone so powerful and who would continue to be successful without being a sexual poster boy for women - his career doesn't depend on him being a heart-throb!

Somehow I doubt Dannii or Sharon Osborne would agree to be part of some sad cover-up act. There's absolutely nothing in it for them at the end of the day.

Yeah, well, how about in US TV, it's still middle ages over there.

[methodyguy]

Originally Posted by dog_eat_dog

This.

Simon has no need to cover his sexuality up in this day and age. The conspiracy theories around his supposed homosexuality are laughable.

The guy's in entertainment long enough to know coming out is unlikely to have any bearing whatsoever on his career, especially someone so powerful and who would continue to be successful without being a sexual poster boy for women - his career doesn't depend on him being a heart-throb!

Somehow I doubt Dannii or Sharon Osborne would agree to be part of some sad cover-up act. There's absolutely nothing in it for them at the end of the day.

Going by Simons age I think he may still think that if he were to come out would somehow damage and ruin his career though I am quite sure that he has enough money to survive.

Also didn't Louis Walsh have to be dragged from the closet kicking and screaming.