What is the best truely unlimited data tariff on PAYG?
best unlimited data tariff?
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Originally Posted by cooltv:
“What is the best truely unlimited data tariff on PAYG?”
“What is the best truely unlimited data tariff on PAYG?”
On PAYG? Three - as long as you don't tether you can hammer the network as much as you like. Details at; http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Pay_As_You_Go
Yes, Three's the only one AFAIK. Sadly Giffgaff's unlimited is no longer true unlimited, there are people out there who have been hit with detrimental usage clauses and it looks like they plan on bringing in an FUP.
Remember that even with Three you can't tether unless you pay for their One Plan.
Remember that even with Three you can't tether unless you pay for their One Plan.
If you dont get signal with three in your area I suggest gift gaff. £10 for unlimited internet (no tethering)
Bear in mind though three has its own network where as gift gaff is a mvno that use o2's network. So you won't see amazing speeds/reliability on gift gaff. Plus they do have a fair use policy in place if you use too much. Three don't though, so you won't get cut off for excessive use
EDIT: beaten by the bigm
Bear in mind though three has its own network where as gift gaff is a mvno that use o2's network. So you won't see amazing speeds/reliability on gift gaff. Plus they do have a fair use policy in place if you use too much. Three don't though, so you won't get cut off for excessive use
EDIT: beaten by the bigm
TalkMobile offer 200 mins, 500 SMS Texts and Unlimited data on the Vodafone network for £12 a month on a 1 month SIM only contract deal.
http://www.talkmobile.co.uk/simple.html#
Should suit most mobile users who need handset browsing and apps.
http://www.talkmobile.co.uk/simple.html#
Should suit most mobile users who need handset browsing and apps.
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“TalkMobile offer 200 mins, 500 SMS Texts and Unlimited data on the Vodafone network for £12 a month on a 1 month SIM only contract deal.
http://www.talkmobile.co.uk/simple.html#”
“TalkMobile offer 200 mins, 500 SMS Texts and Unlimited data on the Vodafone network for £12 a month on a 1 month SIM only contract deal.
http://www.talkmobile.co.uk/simple.html#”
That's another one of those unlimited unless you use too much deals.
Quote:
“Unlimited Internet (included in tariff allowance)
Some Pay Monthly contracts include "Unlimited" data access as part of the tariff allowance.
There is no limit on mobile internet usage on contracts which include "Unlimited" data access. However if we feel that your data usage is so excessive that other customers are detrimentally affected and/or we are concerned about fraud, we may introduce a fair use policy. If we publish a policy we will let you know. Any such policy may change from time to time, including where we introduce new Services which may require certain rules to ensure such new Services can be enjoyed by our customers. If, once we have implemented such a policy, your use of the Service is excessive, is causing problems for other users and you continue to use the Service excessively we may suspend all or some of the Services.”
“Unlimited Internet (included in tariff allowance)
Some Pay Monthly contracts include "Unlimited" data access as part of the tariff allowance.
There is no limit on mobile internet usage on contracts which include "Unlimited" data access. However if we feel that your data usage is so excessive that other customers are detrimentally affected and/or we are concerned about fraud, we may introduce a fair use policy. If we publish a policy we will let you know. Any such policy may change from time to time, including where we introduce new Services which may require certain rules to ensure such new Services can be enjoyed by our customers. If, once we have implemented such a policy, your use of the Service is excessive, is causing problems for other users and you continue to use the Service excessively we may suspend all or some of the Services.”
How do 3 know if you are tethering.
If I set my android device to be a wifi hotspot what can 3 do to stop me?
If I set my android device to be a wifi hotspot what can 3 do to stop me?
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“How do 3 know if you are tethering.
If I set my android device to be a wifi hotspot what can 3 do to stop me?”
“How do 3 know if you are tethering.
If I set my android device to be a wifi hotspot what can 3 do to stop me?”
Apple have software included on their handsets that informs networks about tethering, Android does not. So it's down to the volume of data and the type of data (Windows Updates etc) and overall consumption for the network to determine what is actually happening with each user.
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“How do 3 know if you are tethering.
If I set my android device to be a wifi hotspot what can 3 do to stop me?”
“How do 3 know if you are tethering.
If I set my android device to be a wifi hotspot what can 3 do to stop me?”
They can tell from the type of traffic that comes from desktop devices as it's different to mobile, eg:user agent, windows update polls.
If you abuse it and they put a watch on they may disable your data package for abuse.
They do have auto detection methods too some say on here.
They have auto detection methods like mentioned above. If you tether or are flagged as tethering you'll be redirected to a 3 tethering block page.
Btw I'm pretty sure talk mobile have a FUP of 1GB.
Three and gift gaff are the only companies who do unlimited data on pay as you go. T-Mo and Three do it contract as well.
Three and gift gaff are the only companies who do unlimited data on pay as you go. T-Mo and Three do it contract as well.
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“Btw I'm pretty sure talk mobile have a FUP of 1GB.
Three and gift gaff are the only companies who do unlimited data on pay as you go. T-Mo and Three do it contract as well.”
“Btw I'm pretty sure talk mobile have a FUP of 1GB.
Three and gift gaff are the only companies who do unlimited data on pay as you go. T-Mo and Three do it contract as well.”
Where is the Talk Mobile 1GB FUP?
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“Can't find it on the site atm. But its something I was told. Maybe they changed it recently?”
“Can't find it on the site atm. But its something I was told. Maybe they changed it recently?”
Maybe... but unless something is provided as evidence 'unlimited' means just that.
I got this from Talkmobile regarding their FUP so if you're willing to take their word for it then it's pretty much unlimited.
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“They have auto detection methods like mentioned above. If you tether or are flagged as tethering you'll be redirected to a 3 tethering block page.”
“They have auto detection methods like mentioned above. If you tether or are flagged as tethering you'll be redirected to a 3 tethering block page.”
Three normally detects Tethering by examining the HTTP headers sent by the customer and checking the User Agent String
If it looks like the user is tethering, they'll get redirected to a page informing them of their options.
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“Apple have software included on their handsets that informs networks about tethering, Android does not”
“Apple have software included on their handsets that informs networks about tethering, Android does not”
It doesn't really work like that.
Apple use a system of "Carrier Settings" files. These contain settings specific to a mobile network (carrier in US terminology), such as: access point names, Voicemail numbers, links to the carrier's web page, MMS settings and the ability for the carrier to turn certain features of the device on or off.
One of the options carriers have is to choose whether or not the tethering option is enabled (branded as "Personal Hotspot" in more recent iOS versions).
This feature can only be used if the network is a "supported" network - O2, Vodafone, Three, T-Mobile, Orange and Tesco in the UK.
Talk Mobile would be detected as Vodafone, Virgin Mobile would be detected as T-Mobile.
The device doesn't actually report that the user is tethering - it simply allows the network to turn off a specific user's ability to use the feature.
Originally Posted by cooltv:
“What is the best truely unlimited data tariff on PAYG?”
“What is the best truely unlimited data tariff on PAYG?”
If you get good BT 3g then Giff Gaff is great (they /are owned by O2 so use the O2 network), £10 gives you 250 mins of calls and unlimited texts and internet but...
They have kicked people off (after warning them) who have downloaded a LOT, usually this means over 10Gb a month and thats a massive amount of data used just on a phone so the consensus is that these people are hooking up their laptop to the internet via the phone, tethering which they say up front is not allowed.
Three is good again IF you get a good signal. My 3 dongle is no good to me here, my phone won't even pick up a 3 signal if I do a scan.
Another vote for Three and giffgaff, I'm on Orange but have tried giffgaff and it works relitively well... Three is also okay but only if you get signal where you are and I do no where I live so Three is not an option for me..
Originally Posted by neo_wales:
“If you get good BT 3g then Giff Gaff is great (they /are owned by O2 so use the O2 network), £10 gives you 250 mins of calls and unlimited texts and internet but...
They have kicked people off (after warning them) who have downloaded a LOT, usually this means over 10Gb a month and thats a massive amount of data used just on a phone so the consensus is that these people are hooking up their laptop to the internet via the phone, tethering which they say up front is not allowed.
Three is good again IF you get a good signal. My 3 dongle is no good to me here, my phone won't even pick up a 3 signal if I do a scan.”
“If you get good BT 3g then Giff Gaff is great (they /are owned by O2 so use the O2 network), £10 gives you 250 mins of calls and unlimited texts and internet but...
They have kicked people off (after warning them) who have downloaded a LOT, usually this means over 10Gb a month and thats a massive amount of data used just on a phone so the consensus is that these people are hooking up their laptop to the internet via the phone, tethering which they say up front is not allowed.
Three is good again IF you get a good signal. My 3 dongle is no good to me here, my phone won't even pick up a 3 signal if I do a scan.”
I'm abit confused by your post. I thought BT mobile used Vodafone, or have they changed? Or are you implying that they own O2? That would also be incorrect as the Spanish company Telefonica owns O2 & giffgaff.
Originally Posted by ajh94:
“Another vote for Three and giffgaff, I'm on Orange but have tried giffgaff and it works relitively well... Three is also okay but only if you get signal where you are and I do no where I live so Three is not an option for me..”
“Another vote for Three and giffgaff, I'm on Orange but have tried giffgaff and it works relitively well... Three is also okay but only if you get signal where you are and I do no where I live so Three is not an option for me..”
What about TalkMobile? They use the Vodafone network and offer an unlimited data deal for £12 a month (only 200 mins of calls though).
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“What about TalkMobile? They use the Vodafone network and offer an unlimited data deal for £12 a month (only 200 mins of calls though).”
“What about TalkMobile? They use the Vodafone network and offer an unlimited data deal for £12 a month (only 200 mins of calls though).”
Check your coverage first before gong with TM. I tried them on a 30 day rolling contract signal was abysmal. I was on a train from cam & dursley station to Cardiff central & had no signal for 98% of the journey. Not impressed at all as for giffgaff they have had there own problems. If you have problems the customer support is all online & if you have a problem it can take 48 hours or more to get it fixed.
I have used them all and for me only 3 give anything that sembles broadband.
With everything else it more often feels like hitting spaghetti junction.
With everything else it more often feels like hitting spaghetti junction.
prior to the rise of the iPhone and it's reliance on mobile data/browsing, the telcos used an "unofficial" limit to the "unlimited data" allowance of 250MB
I believe that the "unofficial" limits (not publicly acknowledged) for tariffs which are not set with a quoted data allowance, those are now set to around 500MB per month....
Three appears to genuinely be the only telco which is not monitoring data use unless it's tethering
I believe that the "unofficial" limits (not publicly acknowledged) for tariffs which are not set with a quoted data allowance, those are now set to around 500MB per month....
Three appears to genuinely be the only telco which is not monitoring data use unless it's tethering
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