Originally Posted by ejm:
“I would never recommend either a Beagle or a Border Collie for a first time owner.”
Our first dog was a Border Collie and he's great. We got him when he was a pup (10 weeks) and trained him. Very fast learner and wouldn't hurt a fly.
We had two cats before we got him, and he's never bothered with them - he knows who's boss
He walks at the side of you without a lead, sits before crossing the road etc., doesn't bother with other dogs unless he knows them (ie. family and friends who have dogs).
He's very gentle - even if another dog attacks him he will roll over and let them and he'd rather lick an intruder to death than attack them!
Basically, what I'm saying is if you've got young children, I think Border Collie's are a great breed to own.
Obviously we all have different experiences with different breeds, but for me and my family, Border Collie's are the perfect dogs to own.
My other dog is a complete nightmare (not a pedigree, can't remember what he's crossed with). Can't control his bladder, jumps up and barks at everyone who enters the house, runs off if he sees another dog or human and generally doesn't listen to a word you say. He's only a pup though, and he is starting to improve bit by bit now.
I'm sure you know this, OP, but a lot of time is required with them. Learning them commands, walking them, grooming them etc. and if I were you, I'd question how much time you want to put into those things, and then eliminate the dogs that are too much work for you.
I'll always stand by the fact that the viciousness of a dog is down to the owner, not the breed. As long as you treat it right and do the above things, your dog will respect humans and would never hurt them.
Good luck with your search, OP. Sorry my post is so long!