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Old 08-07-2012, 23:55
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In one of the Swedish Wallander series that was shown on BBC4, the prosecutor was working in the police station with Wallander (and living next door to him).
They used to take Jussi on walks as well?

Brannagh's Stefan doesn't look like Krister's Stefan at all.

The guy who was drinking on the ferry and saw the girl go overboard was a Polish lorry driver.

Krister is making 6 brand new Swedish Wallanders as well.
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Old 09-07-2012, 00:06
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Think Scandinavian Miserablism is getting played out now?

Although this version is slower and more depressing than the the Swedish version (the Krister one anyway, haven't seen the Rolf one).
It's definitely the most melancholic, the Krister version is more classy, while the Rolf is rough and ready. I like this series... very cinematic and dark, like most arty Northern/Eastern European films.
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Old 09-07-2012, 00:12
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I notice an Utfart
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Old 09-07-2012, 00:31
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Think Scandinavian Miserablism is getting played out now?
Not for me. Still very interested in Scandi shows - as long as I alternate them with lighter fare then it's not too depressing.

Actually have just seen this quote:

No wonder Britain is in love with Scandinavian crime dramas – their dour sensibility chimes soddenly with our rain-soaked souls.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...are?CMP=twt_fd
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Old 09-07-2012, 00:39
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Lovely to see Jussi back. Is it the same dog Krister had? Surely not.
Just the same breed

Credits had Brannagh as plain old Kenneth. Not Sir Kenneth. I'm assuming he received his honour?
I think it's generally percieved as poor form to have any personal titles in the credits.

Derek Jacobi was made a "Sir" the same year he started to appear as Brother Cadfael but he was never called Sir Derek Jacobi in the credits of that show.

Ben Kingsley was mocked when he supposedly asked to be referred to as Sir Ben
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Old 09-07-2012, 00:47
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Just the same breed
The real Jussi is not very happy at being replaced by a younger model.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion...uussiwallander
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:09
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I know nothing about criminal law, but I'd say the crime was aggravated by the officers (i.e. it wouldn't have happened if they hadn't broken the law by trespassing and then killing his pets), which probably reduces the category.
They were police officers and had just arrived. Walking up to someone's house isn't trespassing. And the killing of his pets was done in self-defence, and resulted from his actions in keeping such savage animals and not securing them properly. He was entirely to blame for the situation.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:13
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They were police officers and had just arrived. Walking up to someone's house isn't trespassing. And the killing of his pets was done in self-defence, and resulted from his actions in keeping such savage animals and not securing them properly. He was entirely to blame for the situation.
They jumped the fence. The front gates were padlocked. Plus they didn't have a warrant.

I was surprised Wallander wasn't suspended pending Inquiry?
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:56
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The problem (for me anyway) with the Branagh version is that it's all about Kurt. The Swedish adaptations, particularly Krister's, have much more of an ensemble feel, with the likes of Svartman, Isabelle, Katarina etc playing a bigger part than in the British series. But then some of that is down to the Swedish series having a fair bit of light relief, which is something you could never accuse Branagh's Wallander of.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:29
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I thought Branagh depicted Wallander starting out contented and then starting to drown in a sea of grimness quite well. It was fairly understandable, especially when he pointed out at the counselling "I've seen three dead girls this week" i.e. it's not particularly reasonable to ask him to leave it at the station and come home and just eat his dinner cheerfully.

Howeverhis girlfriend was just way too nice. If that were me I'd have kicked his arse for not even texting. I mean who doesn't blow a gasket when their live-in partner trots off for a full day and night without even a text? And she barely even gives a grumble? It was like she was almost half afraid of giving out to him during the episode. She just sighed and said nothing.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:51
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If the bit with the pimp father hitting Anne-Brit with the hammer had happened in the Krister version I think we all know who would have been the victim don't we???
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:08
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If the bit with the pimp father hitting Anne-Brit with the hammer had happened in the Krister version I think we all know who would have been the victim don't we???
Our Boy perhaps?

Although we did get an Oh Svartman moment when the clumsy cop knocked the computer onto the floor(I think it was a PC?). Maybe the writer paying homage to our hapless plod?
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:15
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Our Boy perhaps?

Although we did get an Oh Svartman moment when the clumsy cop knocked the computer onto the floor(I think it was a PC?). Maybe the writer paying homage to our hapless plod?
Funnily enough there was an episode in Krister's second season when Svartman and Isabella were investigating a yard owned by a biker gang and a dog attacked Our Boy

Just a reminder that Soren Malling from The Killing and Borgen is in next week's episode, The Dogs of Riga
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:16
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The problem (for me anyway) with the Branagh version is that it's all about Kurt. The Swedish adaptations, particularly Krister's, have much more of an ensemble feel, with the likes of Svartman, Isabelle, Katarina etc playing a bigger part than in the British series. But then some of that is down to the Swedish series having a fair bit of light relief, which is something you could never accuse Branagh's Wallander of.
True but half the problem on DS is that people are constantly comparing it to those (admittedly superior) versions. Surely the way to watch Branagh's Wallander is to try to forget those other two and view it as a standalone programme. Lots of posters (not accusing you of this by the way!) act as if saying that you like this programme is as bad as admitting to being a fan of Big Brother or Eastenders or something similar when actually it's a quite passable show - and is far darker than other crime shows like (for example) Midsomer Murders.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:42
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Anne-Britt's doctor told dogman's lawyer she will recover(???). So taking into account the trespass and dog shooting he is looking at bodily harm. Dogman told Kurt he could do 6 months easy.Ellika says she knew who the victim was and she might know who the killer is - if they take a view on the charges against her dad(whatever that means - drop them I suppose).
Oh, I got all that, still couldn't see what she, Elilka had to negotiate with.
Tell us what you know or he's going away for murder, they're holding all the cards.
How did her Dad know the rifle had been used in the Murder or has he been up to no good with it himself?

Wallander should have been hauled over the coals too, trespassing, he's the senior officer.
See this is the sort of problem I had with Swedish series and had to jack it in.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:44
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Glad I'm not the only one.

Every time I watch Kenneth Branagh, I'm always left with the impression that I'm watching an actor ...an actor, playing a character, not the character themselves. I have the same problem with Laurence Olivier....it always seemed to be that he always played himself playing someone else, if that makes sense.
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Couldn't agree more, no surprise that Laurence Olivier is Branagh's hero. He obviously, desperately longs to be mentioned in the same sentence. I just find him so ponderous and self conscious. 'Look everyone, I'm doing some proper, classical acting'.

Last night was the first time I watched Wallander. I was a bit meh. Is it only me who finds it a bit strange that it's still set in Sweden but the actors are all English? It just felt disjointed, the cultural context was a bit weird. All through the show I was thinking 'Well I know you're not Swedish, neither are you, you're from Manchester, you're from London . . . . . . . '

It's like that Italian police drama last year with Rufus Sewell, could not get into that at all. 90% English casts with their own accents but some female cast speaking English with an Italian accent. I just find it odd and distracting.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:44
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Had read some good reviews about this programme so sat back to enjoy.
Oh dear what a disappointment, 75% of the program seemed to be a close up of Ken B stubbly very miserable face. My wife went to bed at the 1 hour mark ("I thought you said it was only 1 hour long") but I stayed to the end, only to see the story getting very silly (how do you move a decomposed body and did no one notice it was a recent burial).
I have really enjoyed all the recent Scandanavian dramas with The Killing 1 being exceptional, but this did not come anywhere near, just a Ken B vehicle. In my view his acting was terrible, totally one dimensional, expression and tone of voice always the same. A lesser known actor would not be allowed to get away with it.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:52
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The pimp father has been in something else very recently, he has a very distinctive voice. Can anyone help.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:53
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The pimp father has been in something else very recently, he has a very distinctive voice. Can anyone help.
He was in one of those ITV plice things, the one where Ciaran Hinds is the Det Insp and he's shagging the hot ginger police lady???

He played the part of a successful film actor who murdered some girls. I think.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:54
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Had read some good reviews about this programme so sat back to enjoy.
Oh dear what a disappointment, 75% of the program seemed to be a close up of Ken B stubbly very miserable face. My wife went to bed at the 1 hour mark ("I thought you said it was only 1 hour long") but I stayed to the end, only to see the story getting very silly (how do you move a decomposed body and did no one notice it was a recent burial).
I have really enjoyed all the recent Scandanavian dramas with The Killing 1 being exceptional, but this did not come anywhere near, just a Ken B vehicle. In my view his acting was terrible, totally one dimensional, expression and tone of voice always the same. A lesser known actor would not be allowed to get away with it.

These are similar comments I and others made about the first series.
What is it with directors? This constant concentration on Branagh's "angst" with endless close-ups (again!) was really annoying. I won't say he's a bad actor, but I don't think him anything special, There are several American detective dramas on the minor digital channels I find that are far better than this.

Part of the plot was a bit transparent and the forensics dodgy to say the least.

This comes nowhere near as good as the Swedish originals (again!)
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:07
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KB's Wallander...in the past, {2 years ago}, was much better then last nights offering....what with everything being connected, and the crazy violence with the Dogs and the Sledgehammer; could you survive a hit like that....

Still better then most, make that all dramas on the BEEB...this year.
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Old 09-07-2012, 14:21
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The pimp father has been in something else very recently, he has a very distinctive voice. Can anyone help.
Con O'Neill

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Old 09-07-2012, 14:56
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It was Telstar, the Joe Meek bio he was in the other day on BBC2.
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Old 09-07-2012, 15:24
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Well I quite enjoyed it and I'm far from Sir KB's #1 fan too.
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Old 09-07-2012, 15:29
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The pimp father has been in something else very recently, he has a very distinctive voice. Can anyone help.
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