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Old 09-07-2012, 16:38
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Any excuse to post this:

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Old 09-07-2012, 17:47
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He was a mad father in that one as well wasn't he??
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Old 09-07-2012, 18:59
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Not as good as previous KB Wallander series. That Vanja woman was just annoying- talk about a pushover. He's also very rude, not saying goodbye at the end of his phone calls.

I did enjoy last night's episode. I quite like the Swedishness- it's like the dialogue has just been translated for the audience. Although nobody really acts like they're Swedish.

The highlight of KB's Wallander has to be the moment where he couldn't find any deoderant. Personal hygiene gone out of the window!
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Old 09-07-2012, 20:20
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What was it with Sarah Smart, with Branagh in the field?
She walked as if she were wearing wellies four sizes too big for her.
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Old 09-07-2012, 20:51
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What was it with Sarah Smart, with Branagh in the field?
She walked as if she were wearing wellies four sizes too big for her.
I quite like her character now, maybe because she's a surviving member of the old team.
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Old 09-07-2012, 22:42
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I quite like her character now, maybe because she's a surviving member of the old team.
She'll take a long time to live down the "teenager with attitude" part she played so many times.
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Old 09-07-2012, 22:53
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Saw an episode 1 of 3 last night. My 1st foray into Wallander land. Superb stuff.
Watch out for mentals with sledgehammers.
Tonight I witnessed my 2nd foray. But 3 of 3 and obviously before last nights 1 of 3.
Confused???
Still very watchable. I do like this type of show.
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Old 09-07-2012, 22:57
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You were watching the new series last night, and an old series (on BBC HD) tonight.
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Old 09-07-2012, 23:01
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Thanks for the info. Thanks to the BBC for making my life more complicated than it needs be.
Seems they've decided to move the talent away from Silent Witness. Which was a shambles the last series.
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Old 10-07-2012, 00:13
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She'll take a long time to live down the "teenager with attitude" part she played so many times.
Well, that´s not how I would describe her character in Funland

Mind you, killer (naked) body
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Old 10-07-2012, 21:43
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I quite like her character now, maybe because she's a surviving member of the old team.
I wonder if she is? Is she in the next episode?
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Old 10-07-2012, 22:56
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She'll take a long time to live down the "teenager with attitude" part she played so many times.
Maybe in the eyes of some, but I think she's a very good and versatile actress.
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Old 10-07-2012, 22:59
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Well, that´s not how I would describe her character in Funland

Mind you, killer (naked) body
Yes but she carried her "Braithwaites character" on to several more productions, but like many, for expediency she was probably cast that way anyway.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:36
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They jumped the fence. The front gates were padlocked. Plus they didn't have a warrant.

I was surprised Wallander wasn't suspended pending Inquiry?
I'd genuinely forgotten that they jumped the fence! That does change things a bit, though I still think it would be attempted murder.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:44
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This is the only Wallander story I haven't read - it's a short story published only in the Netherlands - so I watched this to see what it was about. Good - and as always, shocking - story.

I know Henning Mankell is involved in the British Wallander but it's as if he weren't. I suppose he had no say in the casting of Branagh. He's the right age, but he's just not right for the part. He doesn't look like any possible version of Wallander, who is out of shape, lives a bad lifestyle and is depressed - but in a long term invisible clinical sense, not in the moribund sense that Branagh portrays.

Wallander is also not an intellectual, indeed he is highly conscious of being much less well educated than the new kids on the block, but he has been to the best university of life and has an intuitive innate sensibility for crime detection based on experience. Branagh's problem is we all know him and he is dead clever and he can't hide this. He's a cerebral person.

The Swedish Wallanders got this casting right both times. In the UK versions I feel only Ann-Brit is spot on. The new Stefan last night just seems pure English to me, he is nothing like the one in Before the Frost and absolutely nothing like Ola Rapace in the Swedish film version.

I've been to Ystad and met some Swedes who preferred the British versions of the novels to their own, but only because it was so cross-culturally interesting to them because they were anglicised. I just don't find these British ones authentic. I suppose if I hadn't read the novels and loved them, and if I hadn't seen both the Swedish Wallnders and loved them too, I'd be satisfied with this, it's very high quality. But sadly I'm not. That said, I continue to watch to see how the novels are interpreted for the British screen.
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Old 11-07-2012, 00:51
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Actually I think that the British version is more faithful to the books in that they are gloomy and very much concentrated on Wallander, the Swedish series (the Krister one anyway) is more of a police procedural which I associate more with Sjowall and Wahloo's Martin Beck novels rather than Wallander.
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Old 11-07-2012, 15:52
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This is the only Wallander story I haven't read - it's a short story published only in the Netherlands - so I watched this to see what it was about. Good - and as always, shocking - story.
That explains it! I thought I'd read the whole Wallander series but this storyline didn't ring any bells. On that note, I'd just say to dedicated Wallander fans who are tempted to read the final novel in the series — 'The Troubled Man' — you'd be well advised not to! I somehow don't think this one will be televised. Just my opinion, of course ...
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Old 12-07-2012, 17:31
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I know Henning Mankell is involved in the British Wallander but it's as if he weren't. I suppose he had no say in the casting of Branagh. He's the right age, but he's just not right for the part. ...
Ooh, I disagree. KB is perfect for the part, although I think he overplays (maybe it's the script) the dark parts. Wallander is definitely frustrating in the books, but I'd like KB to lighten up just a little bit.

With the first story in the new series, we're to a great start.
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Old 12-07-2012, 22:52
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I wonder if she is? Is she in the next episode?
I think she's in the next one.
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Old 12-07-2012, 22:53
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I know Henning Mankell is involved in the British Wallander but it's as if he weren't. I suppose he had no say in the casting of Branagh. He's the right age, but he's just not right for the part. He doesn't look like any possible version of Wallander, who is out of shape, lives a bad lifestyle and is depressed - but in a long term invisible clinical sense, not in the moribund sense that Branagh portrays.
Yep, they have tried to make him sexy-depressed rather than clinically depressed.
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Old 13-07-2012, 21:09
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So who should have played Wallander in the British one?

Ken Stott?

Bradley Walsh?
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Old 13-07-2012, 22:10
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Actually I think that the British version is more faithful to the books in that they are gloomy and very much concentrated on Wallander, the Swedish series (the Krister one anyway) is more of a police procedural which I associate more with Sjowall and Wahloo's Martin Beck novels rather than Wallander.
Yep, I agree with this, which is why I probably appreciate KB, more than most. Kirster's is brilliant, but it's not much to do with the book, especially the daughters role, and many of the other subsidary characters, I like it all though.

I do often chuckle in the books when Kurt has one of those "is this the state that Swden is in now" convos. Yet I love the slightly overdone gloom of nordic fiction.
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Old 14-07-2012, 00:05
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That explains it! I thought I'd read the whole Wallander series but this storyline didn't ring any bells. On that note, I'd just say to dedicated Wallander fans who are tempted to read the final novel in the series — 'The Troubled Man' — you'd be well advised not to! I somehow don't think this one will be televised. Just my opinion, of course ...
Krister is filming six new Wallander episodes. The Troubled Man will be the final episode to be filmed(all feature length episodes of course).

Branagh hopes to film it as well - but that's up to the Beeb. If they commit to a final season it will be The White Lioness, and a two-part version of The Troubled Man.
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Old 14-07-2012, 11:01
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The Troubled Man will be the final episode to be filmed(all feature length episodes of course).
Really? Well, if the producers don't arrange to "re-imagine" the conclusion I suspect there'll be some blistering outrage in these pages in due course!
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Old 14-07-2012, 12:53
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The previous KBs were bad, but this was awful. My partner was also one who said "it's only an hour, isn't it?" and we agreed we would not be watching any more. Having started with the books, then found the KH DVDs straight from Sweden, then a couple of the RL DVDs with subtitles, we enjoyed them all to varying degrees, but KB no way. Other than the port scenes, there was very little sense of place. The countryside scenes could have been in England. You never see Ystad (and we've been there). And with most actors being British, and the mangling of pronunciation (though I noticed that even KH mis-pronounced Wallander in a recent interview) it is very disappointing. As someone else said the Swedish versions have a much greater team feel to them. The British side-kicks are cardboard cut-outs - glad Tim H has gone, but Sarah Smart is awful - just a whining silly little girl.
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