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I think Ricky should have been fired.SAS got it wrong again
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jules1000
18-04-2012
This series has proved SAS is losing his marbles......

The wrong people have been fired in almost every episode....

I love SAS but he really is losing my respect as weeks go on... I have disagreed with his firing almost every week.

I personally thought the video was very very good it was the IDEA..........
marling
18-04-2012
Yes, I would have liked to see Ricky go - smug g*t.
capekdeh
18-04-2012
Disagree. I dislike Ricky since week 2 but Duane deserves to go.
jackbell
18-04-2012
Nah, he's this year's 'Stuart Baggs'. To be kept in to face Claude ("You're not even a fish") until the Interview episode.

Tedium.
Betty Britain
18-04-2012
He should of gone tonight .. I agree with OP.
annie24601
18-04-2012
Originally Posted by jackbell:
“Nah, he's this year's 'Stuart Baggs'. To be kept in to face Claude ("You're not even a fish") until the Interview episode.

Tedium.”

I agree with this. He will probably provide some great car-crash TV moments

I also think that Ricky did a reasonable job as PM. He had some good ideas and his pitches were good.

It is a big shame Duane was fired, but I felt out of the 3 in the boardroom he messed up the most. Ricky should have brought different people in.
chrono88
18-04-2012
I am not sure what Jenna had done this week. No one called her out as well.
DUNDEEBOY
18-04-2012
Originally Posted by chrono88:
“I am not sure what Jenna had done this week. No one called her out as well.”

Think her and Katie from the other team went shopping up west
-Flossie-
18-04-2012
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“He should of gone tonight .. I agree with OP.”

The fact you use the expression "should of", which is utterly invalid grammatically, shows why you can't see that Ricky is a vastly better candidate than the inept and grammatically-challenged Duane who seems to think that inane blustering and delusional positivism is a substitute for talent.
stash22
19-04-2012
I didnt think Ricky deserved to be fired. He was actually a decent PM, organised the team well and gave good pitches. It's the first time Ive thought he could potentially make the final. Saying that I didnt think Duane should have gone either, the 3 of them seemed the strongest of the team and contributing the most throughout the task - Ricky should have taken in a weak link.
Odd Socks
19-04-2012
The dynamics have really changed since the prize changed. The tasks are meaningless now, it's just an extended and more boring version of Dragon's Den. If it wasn't for You're Fired I probably wouldn't bother with the main show at all.
Stever7
19-04-2012
Ricky should have gone, all talk no action.

@Odd Socks, I agree to be honest. Just doesn't make sense as shown last year; the person who lost all but one task won overall because his idea for a buisness was better compared to the person who won all but one task... what was the point of the tasks if it was just going to come down to buisness ideas!?
Sherlock_Holmes
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Think her and Katie from the other team went shopping up west”

Katie came up with the concept, think you were thrown off the scent because we didnīt see her, Tom and Stephen on day 2 (rehearsing the pitches, like we saw Ricky do).
Neomysterio
19-04-2012
Ricky should have been fired.
TheAuburnEnigma
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by stash22:
“I didnt think Ricky deserved to be fired. He was actually a decent PM, organised the team well and gave good pitches. It's the first time Ive thought he could potentially make the final. Saying that I didnt think Duane should have gone either, the 3 of them seemed the strongest of the team and contributing the most throughout the task - Ricky should have taken in a weak link.”

Thing with that is though, it's the video that seemed to let them down - which is what LS said to them. With that in mind, Duane at least had to be brought in as he was overseeing that part. Jenna and Gabrielle worked out costings and helped Ricky with the pitch - they did contribute but I think the editing focused on the sub-team so it might have looked as though they didn't pull their weight from that angle.

I suspect the reason he brought Laura in instead of Nick is because she was at the forefront of the video and she was the one demonstrating the routine. I don't think Nick did all that much but then again, he was being "shouted down" as such by Duane. I think Laura would have been the better choice out of them to bring in, especially given that she lost the previous task as PM.

I thought Ricky did really well as PM tonight, he got the sort of edit that Katie did for the condiment task - losing PM but did a good job. I don't get the turnaround from LS towards him though. At the start of the final boardroom he was telling them that the feedback was that Ricky's pitches were really good, but then he said that Laura shouldn't have been brought back in and that he had a lucky escape as if it were on that task alone then it was "touch and go". It seems LS can't make up his mind about him.

I didn't like the guy but he impressed me tonight as PM, more so then Stephen did tbh.
DavetheScot
19-04-2012
I didn't feel that any of the losing team deserved to go really. I think the wrong team won. I can't believe the horrible spacehopper rubbish got takers.

Given who was in the boardroom, though, Duane was probably the right one to go. The feedback from the gyms had obviously been that they didn't like the video; that they felt it didn't show the mix of dance and martial arts claimed. Duane had directed the video, he had clearly decided to take out some moves (how crucial this was I'm not sure) and he edited the final version. Clearly, in spite of their disagreements, Laura had done what was asked of her in demonstrating the routine otherwise he'd have said something. The failings of the video were down to him.

It's a shame, though. He was a nice guy, and had looked really good in the other tasks.
MrSuper
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“I didn't feel that any of the losing team deserved to go really. I think the wrong team won. I can't believe the horrible spacehopper rubbish got takers.

Given who was in the boardroom, though, Duane was probably the right one to go. The feedback from the gyms had obviously been that they didn't like the video; that they felt it didn't show the mix of dance and martial arts claimed. Duane had directed the video, he had clearly decided to take out some moves (how crucial this was I'm not sure) and he edited the final version. Clearly, in spite of their disagreements, Laura had done what was asked of her in demonstrating the routine otherwise he'd have said something. The failings of the video were down to him.

It's a shame, though. He was a nice guy, and had looked really good in the other tasks.”

This. Absolutely spot on 100%. It's a shame but the failure of the task was down to the video which was confirmed by the feedback received and Duane was ultimately responsible. It's a shame but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I had Duane down in the final 4, oh well.

Sadly and regrettably on this occasion Sir Alan was right, Duane unfortunately had to go.

How that other team won when the whole thing was terrible is beyond me. Something called luck had a lot to do with it!
manforktorch
19-04-2012
The idea was utterly banal. The martial arts aspect was laughable and in the end it just came across as a tepid evolution of boxercise.

The other team were lucky that Virgin Gyms saw an opportunity that they missed and I think they inadvertently put the idea in the heads of the people they were pitching to.
rwebster
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by -Flossie-:
“The fact you use the expression "should of", which is utterly invalid grammatically, shows why you can't see that Ricky is a vastly better candidate than the inept and grammatically-challenged Duane who seems to think that inane blustering and delusional positivism is a substitute for talent.”

Did Duane break all your toys or something?



Ricky did good. Aside from bringing in an odd pair of candidates - none of the three really deserved to be fired, not in a competition where Adam, Azhar and Stephen are still involved - he managed well, pitched well, came up with a solid concept, led from the front, gained his team's respect, defended himself admirably in the boardroom... clever, sensible, well-prepared, surprisingly humble and admirably level-headed throughout, Ricky's really won me over. Even started mediating in the boardroom when Laura was getting a little stroppy and pre-empting Jenna's criticism.

Thought he was a bit of a pratt for the first four weeks, but all of a sudden I think Ricky could well be a finalist. Excellent stint as PM. Duane, much as I liked him, was the right choice to be fired. More potential than Laura, but he was culpable for the loss on this task.
Abriel
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by -Flossie-:
“The fact you use the expression "should of", which is utterly invalid grammatically, shows why you can't see that Ricky is a vastly better candidate than the inept and grammatically-challenged Duane who seems to think that inane blustering and delusional positivism is a substitute for talent.”

Oh come on, using a minor grammatical error as a means to invalidate someone's argument is a bit desperate surely? Frankly Lord S's constant "what was you " ( thinking, doing etc)is as much evidence of why he shouldn't be in the position he is - he 's starting to remind me of Louise Rednapp

That said, wrong people in the boardroom tonight, it should have been one the nonentities
Muttley76
19-04-2012
In fairness, I though Sugar made it clear he stayed more because of the recommendations of Nick and Karen around past performance and that had he decided it purely on this task he would have fired him.
sian2011
19-04-2012
Can't agree I think Ricky did a fantastic pitch so for that alone deserved to stay. Duane absolutely was the right choice to go! He offered nothing but shouting and demanding his own way.
aggs
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by TheAuburnEnigma:
“I suspect the reason he brought Laura in instead of Nick is because she was at the forefront of the video and she was the one demonstrating the routine. I don't think Nick did all that much but then again, he was being "shouted down" as such by Duane. I think Laura would have been the better choice out of them to bring in, especially given that she lost the previous task as PM.”

I wondered if the reason he brought Laura back was because he knew the close shave she had the week before and that her card had been marked.
-Flossie-
19-04-2012
Originally Posted by rwebster:
“Did Duane break all your toys or something?



Ricky did good. Aside from bringing in an odd pair of candidates - none of the three really deserved to be fired, not in a competition where Adam, Azhar and Stephen are still involved - he managed well, pitched well, came up with a solid concept, led from the front, gained his team's respect, defended himself admirably in the boardroom... clever, sensible, well-prepared, surprisingly humble and admirably level-headed throughout, Ricky's really won me over. Even started mediating in the boardroom when Laura was getting a little stroppy and pre-empting Jenna's criticism.

Thought he was a bit of a pratt for the first four weeks, but all of a sudden I think Ricky could well be a finalist. Excellent stint as PM. Duane, much as I liked him, was the right choice to be fired. More potential than Laura, but he was culpable for the loss on this task.”

Duane annoys me because he is an example of the type of personality that seems to garner feeble-minded viewers as supporters who would be better off watching the X-factor or something, they are unable to appreciate the intellectual merits or business acumen of a candidate and instead evaluate merits entirely on personality traits they deem desirable. So, if a candidate has the following traits: prominent; noisy; effusive; relentlessly positive no matter the reality; constantly smiles inanely; game for a laugh; constantly showers others with inane upbeat drivel; is desperate to grab the lead role; is delusionally upbeat in his assessment of his abilities, then the candidate can be assured of supporters but alas who are confused by decision-making, numbers, logic and business and the early downfall of their hero.

Ricky didn't "do good", that is something that altruists, saints and do-gooders do, the phrase you were looking for was "Ricky did well".

All of your comments about Ricky's performance in the task are valid, he did have a remarkable coherent idea that was compatible with the market and he gave excellent pitches which projected his marketing ideas well in a concise and upbeat style with a grasp of English that shamed others.
CaroUK
19-04-2012
Ricky brought one of the wrong people back in....

Because of the video disaster, Duane probably had to be brought in... but had Ricky brought in Jenna/ Gabrielle/ Nick instead of Laura, Duane might still be in there as LS clearly told Ricky that he's brought the 2 biggest contributors to the task back in and they were the wrong ones!

That said - he was a good PM and of the 3 who were in the final boardroom, Duane deserved to go... but he shouldn't really have been there in the first place.
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