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Old 19-04-2012, 11:40
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Karren really is a nasty, snidy, negative individual. The look on her face when she gives 'feedback' is very unpleasant and she seems to revel in giving people bad news about their performance.

When she was a guest, she was very different, often determined to see positives. Now she is bitter and nasty. I wonder what happened in her life to make her change?
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Old 19-04-2012, 12:34
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Karren really is a nasty, snidy, negative individual. The look on her face when she gives 'feedback' is very unpleasant and she seems to revel in giving people bad news about their performance.

When she was a guest, she was very different, often determined to see positives. Now she is bitter and nasty. I wonder what happened in her life to make her change?
Oh my

i.r.o.n.y. o.v.e.r.l.o.a.d.
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Old 19-04-2012, 12:54
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I like her being part of the team..She is whats needed sometimes to bring the egos of the contestants back do to reality.
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Old 19-04-2012, 15:08
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Oh dear, more Karren hate. Why can't people give it a rest. Nick is just the same in his comments but that's OK apparently. Karren isn't perfect, but she does her job on the show well.
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Old 19-04-2012, 15:10
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I wonder how she got the job....
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Old 19-04-2012, 15:27
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I wonder how she got the job....
Well it wouldn't be for her looks, would it.
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Old 19-04-2012, 15:32
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I wonder how she got the job....
Good lord...could have anything to do with the fact shes been a business woman and media personality for many many years?

So is actually a good candidate for the job.
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Old 19-04-2012, 19:44
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Oh dear, more Karren hate. Why can't people give it a rest. Nick is just the same in his comments but that's OK apparently. Karren isn't perfect, but she does her job on the show well.
No, she doesn't. She just makes negative, very snide comments and clearly rejoices in making people look silly.

No credibility and a horrible personality.
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Old 19-04-2012, 19:45
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Good lord...could have anything to do with the fact shes been a business woman and media personality for many many years?

So is actually a good candidate for the job.
Good candidate who I thought was excellent when she did the interview rounds - and she seemed to champion the feisty women then. But this series she seems grumpy and out of it.
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Old 19-04-2012, 21:45
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Oh dear, more Karren hate. Why can't people give it a rest. Nick is just the same in his comments but that's OK apparently. Karren isn't perfect, but she does her job on the show well.

^^^ This.

When she gave the figures out it was engineered to make it look as if the winning team has actually lost. She knew who had won last night and was just doing what she was told.
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Old 19-04-2012, 21:50
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No, she doesn't. She just makes negative, very snide comments and clearly rejoices in making people look silly.

No credibility and a horrible personality.
And Nick doesn't criticise, sometimes very harshly and nastily? It's her job to report back the good and bad. The teams tend to talk about the good things so Nick and Karren mainly have to relay the bad. What evidence is there she rejoices in making people look silly? That's just projection.

As for no credibility, look up her CV. What business credibility has Nick got, he's a PR man.
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Old 20-04-2012, 09:45
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She has no credibility as a result of her own performance - skewed, nasty, unfounded and vindictive. Her cv is irrelevant when she behaves so poorly on a consistent basis.
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Old 20-04-2012, 09:53
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She has no credibility as a result of her own performance - skewed, nasty, unfounded and vindictive. Her cv is irrelevant when she behaves so poorly on a consistent basis.
I thought she was ok she knew her team had won and was just drawing it out for the cameras she looked pleased when she said However they liked it as a family thing and would like to ..... I dont know why everyone seems to dislike her shes not chic but shes professional and always makes valid points
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Old 20-04-2012, 10:22
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I thought she was ok she knew her team had won and was just drawing it out for the cameras she looked pleased when she said However they liked it as a family thing and would like to ..... I dont know why everyone seems to dislike her shes not chic but shes professional and always makes valid points
Her views are all important to her alone and can be skewed to the point of being unprofessional. She prefers to steamroller through. I've never seen her apologise, as Nick does, whenever he feels he may have misjudged and the impression I take from her actions is that she is never wrong so isn't able to accept she may have been hasty in her judgement.
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Old 20-04-2012, 10:45
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I don't like her on this show at all, but maybe that's because i liked Margaret so much, and nobody could replace her
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Old 20-04-2012, 11:30
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I thought she was ok she knew her team had won and was just drawing it out for the cameras she looked pleased when she said However they liked it as a family thing and would like to ..... I dont know why everyone seems to dislike her shes not chic but shes professional and always makes valid points
She is not professional, she rarely makes any valid points, in fact she rarely makes any points at all, because deep down she knows she is not qualified to make any. She is a feeble dimwit obsessed by women's role in the workplace.
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Old 20-04-2012, 11:56
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She is not professional, she rarely makes any valid points, in fact she rarely makes any points at all, because deep down she knows she is not qualified to make any. She is a feeble dimwit obsessed by women's role in the workplace.
Care to give an example of this?
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Old 20-04-2012, 12:46
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She has no credibility as a result of her own performance - skewed, nasty, unfounded and vindictive. Her cv is irrelevant when she behaves so poorly on a consistent basis.
Sorry, but that's entirely your own opinion. If she wasn't professional she couldn't have succeeded as she has done.

You say her CV is irrelevant because (according to you) she behaves poorly and vindictively on a consistent basis, Not exactly an objective analysis is it? Basically you are saying "I discount the known facts about her because I think she's skewed and nasty." There's a word used to describe this kind of comment but I won't use it here.
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Old 20-04-2012, 13:48
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Oh dear, more Karren hate. Why can't people give it a rest. Nick is just the same in his comments but that's OK apparently. Karren isn't perfect, but she does her job on the show well.
I quite agree. I just don't understand the spite directed at Karren on this forum. First its her clothes then its any remark she makes. Of course Nick can wear what he likes and say what he likes and that is OK.
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Old 20-04-2012, 16:20
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There is no spite. There is 'feedback' to Karren. Let's see how she likes it.
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Old 21-04-2012, 12:56
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She is not professional, she rarely makes any valid points, in fact she rarely makes any points at all, because deep down she knows she is not qualified to make any.
I disagree. She's made some important observations this series. The only example that springs to mind was about the men congratulating Nick on being PM on the first task before he'd even got the words volunteering out of his mouth. There have been others, enough to make me think she is contributing. She's on a par with Nick, basically.
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Old 21-04-2012, 21:44
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Her views are all important to her alone and can be skewed to the point of being unprofessional. She prefers to steamroller through. I've never seen her apologise, as Nick does, whenever he feels he may have misjudged and the impression I take from her actions is that she is never wrong so isn't able to accept she may have been hasty in her judgement.
A typical hallmark of successful businesswomen - they can NEVER admit they are wrong because they are shit-scared of showing a weakness (even more scared then men ever are in those positions)
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Old 22-04-2012, 10:44
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I like her actually, more than Margaret actually.
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Old 22-04-2012, 13:10
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I disagree. She's made some important observations this series. The only example that springs to mind was about the men congratulating Nick on being PM on the first task before he'd even got the words volunteering out of his mouth. There have been others, enough to make me think she is contributing. She's on a par with Nick, basically.
Thanks for the massive empirical evidence.
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Old 22-04-2012, 20:19
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Thanks for the massive empirical evidence.
Where's your empirical evidence that Karren is nasty, skewed, unfounded, snide and rejoices in making people look silly? We only have your word for it so far.
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