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Old 22-04-2012, 21:27
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I wonder how she got the job....
I'd wager winning the Celebrity Apprentice had something to do with it
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Old 22-04-2012, 22:36
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Sometimes she does make good observations but whenever she has a strong dislike for a candidate it seems to turn into a grudge, with constant snide remarks.....remember her hatred for Alex and Susan Ma from Series 7.
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Old 22-04-2012, 23:58
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A typical hallmark of successful businesswomen - they can NEVER admit they are wrong because they are shit-scared of showing a weakness (even more scared then men ever are in those positions)
Karren doesn’t need to be overly agreeable and to see some humour would be pleasant but it’s not required. Although Karren is not Margaret, who decided to move on to pastures new of her own volition, it’s Karren herself who’s the constant reminder that she is lacking. Expecting Karren to use an arched eyebrow in quite the same way as Margaret would be futile but by now she should be adept. Karen whatever her business background, has still not managed to achieve a persona that obliterates or obscures that of her predecessor.

She’s been in the role for years now and it is more noticeable than it should be she is unable to combine subtlety of manner with that of dispassionate observer and sets herself so high above those she is observing she’s not capable of reporting back in an even-handed or judicious way.
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Old 23-04-2012, 14:08
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Sometimes she does make good observations but whenever she has a strong dislike for a candidate it seems to turn into a grudge, with constant snide remarks.....remember her hatred for Alex and Susan Ma from Series 7.
She criticised Susan heavily in one episode, which some people here felt was unfair (I thought it was valid criticism), but that didn't translate into series long hatred. As she isn't called upon to say much there really isn't scope for "constant snide remarks". That it might turn into a grudge can really only be a suspicion, there's no evidence for it. If she says negative things about a candidate more than once, that might be a grudge, but it might be that she genuinely saw negative things going on.

She and Nick see the candidates in action close up for days on end (it's continuous, task after task, not weekly). It's not surprising that they will form negative opinions about some of them. The candidates themselves do too.
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Old 23-04-2012, 14:41
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I like Karren quite a lot and enjoy her on the show personally
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Old 23-04-2012, 14:42
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If she would take the sour, bitter, negative look off of her face for 10 seconds, it might help.

Moody b1tch.
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Old 23-04-2012, 14:50
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If she would take the sour, bitter, negative look off of her face for 10 seconds, it might help.

Moody b1tch.
Calm down and please stop the constant sneering, sniping and bitching about Karren. You don't know her in real life do you? I ask this because you seem to have a vendetta against her.

Remember we only see edited highlights. She sees a lot more of the candidates and what they are up to than we do.

Other people on this forum recognise that she is a successful career woman who is good at her job.
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Old 23-04-2012, 16:04
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Calm down and please stop the constant sneering, sniping and bitching about Karren. You don't know her in real life do you? I ask this because you seem to have a vendetta against her.

Remember we only see edited highlights. She sees a lot more of the candidates and what they are up to than we do.

Other people on this forum recognise that she is a successful career woman who is good at her job.
When I need somene to tell me what I think, I will let you know.
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Old 23-04-2012, 16:42
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When I need somene to tell me what I think, I will let you know.
I'm not telling you what to think, that's up to you but your comments about Karren are a little OTT. If she's winding you up that much perhaps you should stop watching the programme.
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Old 23-04-2012, 17:25
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Karren doesn’t need to be overly agreeable and to see some humour would be pleasant but it’s not required. Although Karren is not Margaret, who decided to move on to pastures new of her own volition, it’s Karren herself who’s the constant reminder that she is lacking. Expecting Karren to use an arched eyebrow in quite the same way as Margaret would be futile but by now she should be adept. Karen whatever her business background, has still not managed to achieve a persona that obliterates or obscures that of her predecessor.

She’s been in the role for years now and it is more noticeable than it should be she is unable to combine subtlety of manner with that of dispassionate observer and sets herself so high above those she is observing she’s not capable of reporting back in an even-handed or judicious way.
I'm afraid you are pretty much spot on. Actually, I just don't think being on television works for her.
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Old 23-04-2012, 22:05
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I'm afraid you are pretty much spot on. Actually, I just don't think being on television works for her.
Correct.
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Old 23-04-2012, 22:30
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I like her being part of the team..She is whats needed sometimes to bring the egos of the contestants back do to reality.
well i like her ! she knows a hell of a lot about business ,haveing being the chairman of birmingham fc and now director of west ham united.
And not exactly miss ugly either ! beauty and brains anyway there are a lot of jealous "males" out there that think she got where she is by "cheating" (think yu know what i mean) yet this lady is absolute goldmine of experience !
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Old 24-04-2012, 08:12
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well i like her ! she knows a hell of a lot about business ,haveing being the chairman of birmingham fc and now director of west ham united.
And not exactly miss ugly either ! beauty and brains anyway there are a lot of jealous "males" out there that think she got where she is by "cheating" (think yu know what i mean) yet this lady is absolute goldmine of experience !
and yet is truly appalling on the programme.
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Old 25-04-2012, 11:22
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Think she needs to stop practicing those negative faces in the mirror every morning ready for when she's following the teams, they lose their effect after a while.

It must be very off-putting trying to do a pitch or sell something with someone behind you going and fidgeting like their knickers are too tight all the time.
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Old 25-04-2012, 14:55
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If she would take the sour, bitter, negative look off of her face for 10 seconds, it might help.
She can't help it that you take her face as having that appearance.

Resorting to insults now? Have you run out of negative adjectives?
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Old 27-04-2012, 15:36
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Think she needs to stop practicing those negative faces in the mirror every morning ready for when she's following the teams, they lose their effect after a while.

It must be very off-putting trying to do a pitch or sell something with someone behind you going and fidgeting like their knickers are too tight all the time.
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Old 16-05-2012, 22:59
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Tonight's episode:

3 nasty sneering grimaces

1 ironic laugh

4 unconstructive, negative, sour comments

Not bad work for a quarter of a million quid.
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Old 17-05-2012, 00:40
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She can't help it that you take her face as having that appearance.


Resorting to insults now? Have you run out of negative adjectives?
I shouldn't think so. This thread was started so that Karren haters can indulge their passion for throwing insults at her and inviting others to join in. Expressing a dislike for someone on TV is one thing (fair enough), but it seems to be an obsession with some. I really can't understand it, unless Karren's done something to them personally or to one of their close friends or family (if she has, they're not willing to tell). Having said that, as long as they're not breaking any forum rules, they're entitled to post what they want.

I've realised that there's no point in trying to put across a counter viewpoint because it only encourages more insults. It's best to leave them to it until they eventually bore of having no-one to argue with.
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Old 17-05-2012, 10:13
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Tonight's episode:

3 nasty sneering grimaces

1 ironic laugh

4 unconstructive, negative, sour comments

Not bad work for a quarter of a million quid.
^^^ LOL!

That's all part of the programme for everyone on it. The losing team, Karren, Nick, Lord Sugar all do any number of these things on The Apprentice. So don't single Karren out. Lord Sugar and the losing candidates are far worse. That is the nature of the programme.
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Old 17-05-2012, 16:21
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I shouldn't think so. This thread was started so that Karren haters can indulge their passion for throwing insults at her and inviting others to join in. Expressing a dislike for someone on TV is one thing (fair enough), but it seems to be an obsession with some. I really can't understand it, unless Karren's done something to them personally or to one of their close friends or family (if she has, they're not willing to tell). Having said that, as long as they're not breaking any forum rules, they're entitled to post what they want.

I've realised that there's no point in trying to put across a counter viewpoint because it only encourages more insults. It's best to leave them to it until they eventually bore of having no-one to argue with.
Was it? It's not my thread but why can't people discuss Karen without being branded Karen haters? This is a discussion forum
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Old 17-05-2012, 16:28
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Was it? It's not my thread but why can't people discuss Karen without being branded Karen haters? This is a discussion forum
I take offence at the 'haters' word but I do think the OP's motives are blatantly obvious, nasty and downright wicked.

I'll happily discuss points when they are made reasonably.
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Old 17-05-2012, 16:48
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I take offence at the 'haters' word but I do think the OP's motives are blatantly obvious, nasty and downright wicked.

I'll happily discuss points when they are made reasonably.
But why should you be the arbiter of reason? I just think everybody should lay off the calling other posters names.
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Old 17-05-2012, 17:11
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But why should you be the arbiter of reason? I just think everybody should lay off the calling other posters names.
Does name calling include calling someone silly?
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Old 17-05-2012, 17:37
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But why should you be the arbiter of reason? I just think everybody should lay off the calling other posters names.
I'm not pretending to be the arbiter of anything.

I gave my opinion...............that's all.
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Old 17-05-2012, 17:52
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I think Karen away from Apprentice is quite a nice person from what I've seen of her interviews.

Maybe she was told by the Apprentice bosses to play her part quite strictly but fairly. They need certain characters in the show to keep the viewers interested. That is why I believe Adam has lasted so long.
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