Still reading int he news and on websites that Nokia is still losing money and going from bad to worse. Such a shame as their phones used to be great, I don't mean the smart phones, but the older simple phones like the 3310, they was reliable and done what they was suppose to do.

I think Nokia should have stayed with Symbian and updated it, I certainly don't think relying on Microsoft phone Os is going to save them, they need to give people the choice.


i would not mind a nokia phone if they had the right Os and decent phones at a decent price, sadly they don't

Symbian was beyond saving, the thing was a mess - perhaps there is an argument to be made that Meego was a good natural progression that Nokia could have taken, but they would have been in the same boat (or even worse) re. ecosystem that Nokia find themselves in now. The only thing wrong with WP is that the ecosystem is not as developed as iOS or Android and this is proving to be a huge barrier hindering adoption.

By the time Nokia realised they needed to change from Nokia/Meego it was already too late. Perhaps adopting Android would have helped avoid the young ecosystem problems they're having with WP at the moment, but Android does bring with it its own problems.

Nokia have updated Symbian - twice in the last year, and the latest Symbian Belle version is rather good and so are some of their newer Symbian phones like the 500 and 700 - I have the 500 and find it far better than the HTC Desire I had previously.

My experience of Nokia in 2010, was of a disorganized, unwieldy and bureaucratic company who had lost sight of some of the basics. When you couple that with a product range that had failed to keep up, is clear where they went wrong.

Since then they have successfully revamped Series40, and there are highlights like Pureview. But I think the jury is still out on whether going with Windows Phone was a mistake ( there was an interesting report recently from European operators that describes Windows Phone as unpopular and the Lumia series as great phones which would sell in far higher numbers if they were Android based) It's also unclear whether the necessary culture and organisation changes have been made.

All very interesting posts. i am happy with my HTC wildfire to be honest, but if Nokia did have a Android phone at a good price with a good interface and i was thinking of changing my phone then i would certainly have a look at it.

I think any phone manufacture sticking to one OS is a mistake to be honest, look at blackberry and how far down they have gone, saying that Blackberry is more for the commercial side of things than for joe Public.

I had Nokia phones for years and still have a couple (I use a 3310 when off camping) but they've made their bed with Microsoft so we'll have to see what happens in the next year.

I'm very happy with my S2 but will switch to Windows 8 asap on my PC's and I'll get a W8 phone as soon as one comes along that can match the S2.

I'm not a heavy phone user in terms of calls/texts/net usage or in apps to be honest, so long as a W8 phone comes along with a screen size similar to the S2, has GPS, good camera and can play movies and music I'll be happy. It would be nice to see Nokia produce such a phone. Any rumours going around?

Nokia are still a handset maker in demand, they should stop trying to be Smartphone leaders and focus on their main market which is the feature phone.

You only have to look at sales on ebay to see how many people are still buying small, compact, neat handsets that are NOT Windows Phone or Android or iOS to realise there is still a huge market for them.

its the minority market in the uk now and getting smaller. last i read smartphones account for 54% of the uk market and that share is growing

The only problem with Symbian is there is not another OS out there that I would trust to replace it with.

Thats true, but its 54% split across many platforms, handsets and manufacturers.

Worldwide Nokia could still have a very profitable business in feature phones

Nope, emerging markets are upgrading to smartphones faster than they expected and they are getting killed on price by white-label chinese manufacturers (plus more well known ones like ZTE and Huawei).

Smartphones are what make money.

A narrow, developed world consumer view is hardly enough knowledge or perspective to suggest a global strategy.

+1

I'm typing this on a tegra2 ics tablet. Have a blackberry for work. There's an iPod touch in the drawer gathering dust. My personal phone is a Nokia N8. And at least for me, the N8 is by far and away the best device.

The imminent 808 with its apparently gorgeous screen,refined version of what is already a damn good interface and that camera is looming like being one of the products of the year.

Perhaps for you, I don't think it will be a commercial success, at least in the UK. I think most people don't care that much about camera quality, they just want a half-decent one, or at least they don't want to compromise design or thinness to get one, it's also probably not of a good enough plus these days to pull in people from other platforms.

The review by Vlad Savov was that Symbian was still unattractive to use, the primary complaint being that it was slow.

For a hardware and capability perspective the Nokia N8 is pretty nice with the good camera, the HDMI, FM transmitter etc. Sadly, a lot of it is not stuff people care about right now.

Shame the Lumia cameras aren't very good, I would have hoped they could rival the iPhone 4S.

I love my N8. For me the camera sold it. I never carry big cameras around, but always my phone, so can catch family moments whilst out, and about. It has a decent sound, and HD video. The OS has vastly improved since I upgraded to Symbian Belle via Nokia Suite. It also has an excellent sat nav, plus loads of free, or cheap apps, and games.

My next phone will be a Nokia Lumia 900, which has a very decent camera.

They have lost their way a bit.

I had an N8 on contract, yes I know Smartphones have a habit of eating battery, but as soon as you charged it - by 3pm they'd be about 10% left! It was user friendly and had good Apps and features, but demanding charging A LOT! I switched to an Orange branded phone, and don't have this problem!

Back in the day with their 3310s (I had one up until 2009 as a 2nd phone!), 6210s and 6233s - they did what it said on the tin, battery didn't get eaten and were ideal for people.

I do see the move to Windows as a positive, but I don't feel they can compete with the likes of Samsung, Blackberry, Apple and LG anymore.