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Connecting HD to TV with no HD connector?
Yllek
21-04-2012
My TV is quite old but does display HD (it's an equivalent of a HD ready TV but without the HD connector).

Everything else I have is HD or HDMI and they all have HD sockets, but the TV does not.

Is there some connector I could buy? I've seen a scart connector that attaches to a HD cable - so that you can connect from a HD port to a scart port on the TV.

Have I got this right?
Nigel Goodwin
21-04-2012
Originally Posted by Yllek:
“My TV is quite old but does display HD (it's an equivalent of a HD ready TV but without the HD connector).

Everything else I have is HD or HDMI and they all have HD sockets, but the TV does not.

Is there some connector I could buy? I've seen a scart connector that attaches to a HD cable - so that you can connect from a HD port to a scart port on the TV.

Have I got this right?”

No, you can't have a simple cable to connect HDMI to SCART.

First off, what make and model is your TV? - most of the ones that predate HD Ready are absolutely useless for HD, so it's probably a waste of time.

You can get converters from HDMI to Component (HD Fury 2), but they aren't cheap. If you want HD a new TV is probably the answer.

What items are you trying to connect?, a Sky HD box has SCART anyway, and you could always choose a BD player with Component out as well as HDMI.
Yllek
21-04-2012
The TV is a Philips 30/37/42PF9946 - 107FP4/10 (in the manual). It has two Scart connectors and one for a PC monitor (DVI?)

I have a PS3 and Sagem freeview+ box with HDMI. They are currently connected by Scart.

A friend said that the TV has 720 lines which is like a HD ready TV and would give near HD quality if there was a HD connection. I least I think that's what he said!
grahamlthompson
21-04-2012
Originally Posted by Yllek:
“The TV is a Philips 30/37/42PF9946 - 107FP4/10 (in the manual). It has two Scart connectors and one for a PC monitor (DVI?)

I have a PS3 and Sagem freeview+ box with HDMI. They are currently connected by Scart.

A friend said that the TV has 720 lines which is like a HD ready TV and would give near HD quality if there was a HD connection. I least I think that's what he said!”

You just need a HDMI to DVI cable and a seperate audio cable.

eg

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...All-Categories

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVI-MALE-H...item414e13b82f
Yllek
21-04-2012
Many thanks - so that will give me near HD quality?
grahamlthompson
21-04-2012
Originally Posted by Yllek:
“Many thanks - so that will give me near HD quality?”

It will give you HD quality pictures. The DVI socket is identical to HDMI for video it just needs a seperate lead for audio.

The original HD Ready specification specified a HDCP capable HDMI or DVI socket. Your TV is likely to have 768 line vertical resolution. Anything higher than 720 counts as High Definition. Try setting your pS3 to output 720p50.
Nigel Goodwin
21-04-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“It will give you HD quality pictures.”

No it won't, if you check the spec on that model it's only an NTSC SD resolution screen (480 pixels), not even a PAL resolution set.

According to the reviews from the time it was a special cheap set for those who didn't want HD.
emptybox
21-04-2012
Also I think it's got VGA for the PC input, rather than DVI.
chrisjr
21-04-2012
Originally Posted by emptybox:
“Also I think it's got VGA for the PC input, rather than DVI.”

If the manual I have found is the correct one...

http://download.p4c.philips.com/file...12_dfu_aen.pdf

then you are correct. It does have VGA only, no DVI socket.
Yllek
22-04-2012
It is VGA - I know because I bought the cable before reading these threads and it doesn't fit. I can always take it back.

Never mind, I'll make sure not to take my friend's advice at face value again.

Thanks to everyone for responding and helping.
Chris Frost
24-04-2012
I come across this problem quite regularly. I upgrade old home cinema projectors (high-end CRTs and pre-HD digitals) to accept Blu-ray and get around the HDCP issue. I use an alternative to the HD Fury which works out a lot cheaper. This would work for you too.
2Bdecided
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“No it won't, if you check the spec on that model it's only an NTSC SD resolution screen (480 pixels), not even a PAL resolution set.

According to the reviews from the time it was a special cheap set for those who didn't want HD.”

If it's the one I think it is, it looks pretty awful in SD IMO.

Sometimes you see a small improvement on some channels moving from an SD source to an HD source even on a (decent) SDTV - it depends how large it is and how close you sit - and how many MPEG-2 artefacts there are on the SD channel. But with this 480-line TV I doubt you'd see any difference at all.

Cheers,
David.
Nigel Goodwin
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by 2Bdecided:
“If it's the one I think it is, it looks pretty awful in SD IMO.

Sometimes you see a small improvement on some channels moving from an SD source to an HD source even on a (decent) SDTV - it depends how large it is and how close you sit - and how many MPEG-2 artefacts there are on the SD channel. But with this 480-line TV I doubt you'd see any difference at all.”

You see a better quality SD picture - as there's much greater bandwidth in the transmission. What you don't see is any HD.
pocatello
26-04-2012
Originally Posted by Yllek:
“The TV is a Philips 30/37/42PF9946 - 107FP4/10 (in the manual). It has two Scart connectors and one for a PC monitor (DVI?)

I have a PS3 and Sagem freeview+ box with HDMI. They are currently connected by Scart.

A friend said that the TV has 720 lines which is like a HD ready TV and would give near HD quality if there was a HD connection. I least I think that's what he said!”

"Resolution 852 x 480"
So no, at best you have an EDTV not an HDTV.

You can't get past the native resolution. The tv has 480p lines, not 720p lines. 720p is 1280x720.
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