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Old 21-04-2012, 17:05
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I wonder what the possibilities are here?

Would it be possible to resurrect other artists?

Michael Jackson performing with Bruno Mars, Usher, Janet Jackson, Beyonce?

Or even bigger get Elvis live in Hawaii, or The Beatles at Wembley, or ABBA even together?

Bands could tour without actually touring!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbrFmPBV0Y
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Old 21-04-2012, 17:11
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Michael Jackson will be next definitely! Can't wait to see that
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Old 21-04-2012, 17:21
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Well Elvis was resurrected to perform a duet with Celine Dion here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3H4RljiBH8
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Old 21-04-2012, 17:22
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The technology on that 2pac Hologram blows my mind! amazing stuff...i find it a little bit spooky as well.
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Old 21-04-2012, 18:07
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I hope not!

It was flawless and a really impressive moment, but I wouldn't like it to take over. It's amazing for some really special occasions, but bands touring without actually being present in each venue? With all due respect, I wouldn't like that at all. The whole point of touring and performing is the interraction with the crowd

That said, the holograms are a great way of paying tribute to artists who have passed away, so maybe they could be used for award shows and festivals more in the future, but not for artists who are still active!
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Old 21-04-2012, 18:36
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They did this with Mariah Carey aswell. They had her performing somewhere, but they put holograms of her in like 5 different venues around the US. So she was still performing live, just in 5 different places at the same time.

And in Japan they have this pop star that actually is a hologram. She doesn't represent a real person, but the hologram is a musical artist. So we think pop music is manufactured enough already, but in the future perhaps the pop artists won't even be real humans!!
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Old 21-04-2012, 20:16
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I didn't think it was the first time but it seems to be the best hologram so far. I was thinking that it would mean the perfect performance every time or would there be scope for some ad lib stuff as well?
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Old 21-04-2012, 20:21
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I didn't think it was the first time but it seems to be the best hologram so far. I was thinking that it would mean the perfect performance every time or would there be scope for some ad lib stuff as well?
They manipulated his vocals on that hologram and not all of it is actually pac rapping but somthing they created in a studio...like at the start when he shouts out 'what the f**k is up Coachella!'
they can get them to say things that they never said before

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/168...oachella.jhtml
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Old 22-04-2012, 18:48
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Michael Jackson Hologram already in the pipeline?
It just had to be MJ, didn't it?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/ne...jackson-5.html
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Old 22-04-2012, 21:17
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Freddie Mercury would be brilliant!
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Old 22-04-2012, 23:54
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Freddie Mercury would be brilliant!
Already done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSLZNA1B5E0
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Old 22-04-2012, 23:57
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That's merely a video screen

Amazing moment, but yeah

and Elvis.. WOW (from the 68 comeback special if anyone's interested)
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Old 23-04-2012, 11:33
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Yeah I would like to see an all-dead charity concert featuring Tupac, Freddie Mercury, Kurt Cobain, Ian Curtis, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and maybe Keith Moon on drums. They could call it Dead Aid instead of Live Aid.
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Old 23-04-2012, 12:14
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It would be brilliant if they could bring Clarence back to perform with Bruce and the band.

I think it would be a really emotional moment.
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Old 23-04-2012, 12:33
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That's merely a video screen

Amazing moment, but yeah

and Elvis.. WOW (from the 68 comeback special if anyone's interested)
I know but really whats the difference. The rest of the band were playing live to Freddie's Vocals and Piano. Even if they produced a Hologram they cant exactly interact with him, same with This Tupac thing its old footage projected onto the stage just not on a screen.
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Old 23-04-2012, 13:01
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I know but really whats the difference. The rest of the band were playing live to Freddie's Vocals and Piano. Even if they produced a Hologram they cant exactly interact with him, same with This Tupac thing its old footage projected onto the stage just not on a screen.
Its not old footage..its just based on old footage, Its CGI/motion capture over an actor copying old film of tupac on stage...they get him to do and say things he's never done before.
Thats why he interacts with snoop and the audience
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Old 23-04-2012, 19:28
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Its not old footage..its just based on old footage, Its CGI/motion capture over an actor copying old film of tupac on stage...they get him to do and say things he's never done before.
Thats why he interacts with snoop and the audience

Not quite

http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/04/18/tup...-how-it-works/
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Old 23-04-2012, 19:34
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Thought i'd add it was created by Digital Domain which James Cameron partly founded

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...YL01-M2SNK.DTL

Read estimates of it costing between $100k and $400k to produce
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Old 23-04-2012, 21:19
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That just explains how a hologram works..not how they got him to do and say things he's never done before.

My guess is they recorded an actor recreating a performance of 2pac..and then they put CGI over the top of him so it looked like pac..like how they turned turned andy serkis into golem in lotr...recorded it and edited the vocal and then displayed it on stage holographically.

you can see his face looks abit computerised..and his abs have never looked so perfect.
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Old 23-04-2012, 22:55
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One of the biggest popstars in Japan, is a cartoon hologram:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-pop-idol.html
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Old 25-04-2012, 09:58
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Apparently the Jacksons are now hoping to tour with a hologram of Michael.
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Old 25-04-2012, 17:49
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Apparently the Jacksons are now hoping to tour with a hologram of Michael.
I'm just a little worried that it might make pop music even more retro than it already is.
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Old 26-04-2012, 20:39
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That just explains how a hologram works..not how they got him to do and say things he's never done before.

My guess is they recorded an actor recreating a performance of 2pac..and then they put CGI over the top of him so it looked like pac..like how they turned turned andy serkis into golem in lotr...recorded it and edited the vocal and then displayed it on stage holographically.

you can see his face looks abit computerised..and his abs have never looked so perfect.
Who cares. It looks amazing. I loved it
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Old 26-04-2012, 22:22
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Well this technology isnt anything new, they've been using it in places like Japan for years.
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Old 01-05-2012, 14:47
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Good for Roger Taylor "I will never appear with a Hologram of my dear friend"

http://www.billboard.com/news/freddi...06919952.story
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