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9200T information plates
martinh8250
23-04-2012
I have just joined in the hope that someone can please help as I have not got an answer from HUMAX customer servises.

The 'i' button on the remote works properly on live programmes, but for some time it does not display any text in the information plates on all recorded programmes.

I receive FreeView signals from the Salisbury transmitter which has recently been upgraded. I think this problem pre-dates the switchover, but cannot be sure.

I have gone through the whole process of powering off, default setting and manual retuning several times. The reception is good and everything else is working well.
Mart1n0940
23-04-2012
I believe the i button only gives info on future programmes via the epg.

In order to see the same info for previously recorded programmes, you have to actually start playing the programme back first
martinh8250
23-04-2012
Thanks for you comment but the problem is when playing the recording.

The information plates are displayed but they are empty. No information about the recorded programme is displayed.
motco
23-04-2012
I have noticed this with older programmes. When I reset my 9200 it lost this information but with all programmes post reset it stored it again.
kev
23-04-2012
I've found it a bit hit and miss - if it records two programmes on the one recording it will only show data for the first one (often the last minute of the programme before) and goes blank when the programme of interest starts.

Incredibly annoying on Channel 4 when using (in)accurate record - seams to have the previous programmes synopsis for the first 30 seconds or so of the recording then it goes blank!

If you have a manual time which is within a single programme it will display the correct synopsis for the whole programme.

For me using the Waltham transmitter this problem has been around for while, but usually only afflicts Channel 4 programmes, and the odd manual time on the BBC.
martinh8250
23-04-2012
Thanks motco, that's what I hoped would happen, but I have tried several times resetting the system without sucess.

Hi Kev, I guess you are describing similar problems with unscheduled recordings. I almost always use scheduled recording and watch them sometime in the future. It is happening consistently, i.e on every recording.
creddish
23-04-2012
Originally Posted by kev:
“Incredibly annoying on Channel 4 when using (in)accurate record - seams to have the previous programmes synopsis for the first 30 seconds or so of the recording then it goes blank!”

If the programme starts early it is normal for the Info button to display the data for the previous programme for the part of the recording made before the scheduled time. Likewise it will show info for the following programme for the period that the programme runs later than its scheduled end time. This is because the info screen uses the data from the EPG rather than the EITp/f data stream that controls Accurate Recording.

Colin
Catbed
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by martinh8250:
“The 'i' button on the remote works properly on live programmes, but for some time it does not display any text in the information plates on all recorded programmes.”

I don't have a solution but ours does this occasionally. It's usually (if not always) on the 'lesser' channels like ITV4, so I've just put it down to broadcaster error/laziness, but I wonder now. It's not often enough for me to worry about it anyway.

We are on Winter Hill and don't use AR/SL - straight timers with padding.
kev
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by creddish:
“If the programme starts early it is normal for the Info button to display the data for the previous programme for the part of the recording made before the scheduled time. Likewise it will show info for the following programme for the period that the programme runs later than its scheduled end time. This is because the info screen uses the data from the EPG rather than the EITp/f data stream that controls Accurate Recording.

Colin”

Which is all well and good, and what I'd expect - however in my case it will only EVER display the first programmes information.
Luis Essex
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by kev:
“Which is all well and good, and what I'd expect - however in my case it will only EVER display the first programmes information.”

Reading this thread I've realised that I've not seen that for a long time. I wonder if firmware version 26 cured part of the issues.
Which version are you using?
martinh8250
24-04-2012
Hi Luis,

The system status is:

Hardware Version PVR9200T REV1.0
Software Version PGXTF 1.00.23
Loader a4.09
Update 20 May 2010

Do the last two digits on the software version indicate the Firmware version?
kev
24-04-2012
PGXTF 1.00.23 on both Hummy's here. Was the 26 ever OTA? Could never get the serial port ones loaded from my computer (Vista with USB to serial adaptor).
nvingo
24-04-2012
V1.00.23 is current for the PVR9200T, it is the PVR9150T/PVR9300T that are on V1.00.26.

The info data is not stored in the same file as the recorded programme, as such it is possible that HDD corruption is responsible for missing info data.
martinh8250
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by nvingo:
“V1.00.23 is current for the PVR9200T, it is the PVR9150T/PVR9300T that are on V1.00.26.

The info data is not stored in the same file as the recorded programme, as such it is possible that HDD corruption is responsible for missing info data.”

Does that mean I would have to reformat the HDD and loose all the recordings.
Martin Liddle
24-04-2012
Originally Posted by martinh8250:
“Does that mean I would have to reformat the HDD and loose all the recordings.”

You could use humaxcheck to see if the file system is corrupt. If it is then you could download the programs to a PC using humaxrw, format the disk and upload the programs to the Humax again. Typically file system corruption gets gradually worse and so (if the problem is file system corruption) it may be better to bite the bullet sonner rather than later.
martinh8250
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle:
“You could use humaxcheck to see if the file system is corrupt. If it is then you could download the programs to a PC using humaxrw, format the disk and upload the programs to the Humax again. Typically file system corruption gets gradually worse and so (if the problem is file system corruption) it may be better to bite the bullet sonner rather than later.”

I have had a look at humaxcheck on WikiSpaces and apart from the the fact that I have an iMac not a PC, it looks far beyond my capability.

Thank you all for your advice. I think I will just live with the problem and if the file system gets more corrupt try formatting the disk then. If that doesn't work and the 9200t is unuseable I will replace it with the HDR-FOX 2. It has after all given many years of excellent service.
Me
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by martinh8250:
“I have had a look at humaxcheck on WikiSpaces and apart from the the fact that I have an iMac not a PC, it looks far beyond my capability.

Thank you all for your advice. I think I will just live with the problem and if the file system gets more corrupt try formatting the disk then. If that doesn't work and the 9200t is unuseable I will replace it with the HDR-FOX 2. It has after all given many years of excellent service.”

I'd second that - I had one of the first 9200s - it didn't even chase play. I marvelled at the updates which made it more and more usable, but, ultimately I realised that the ever-changing Freeview+ specs were really trying to make it work beyond its capabilities. I've had the HDR-FOX2 for about a year now. I also have a Mac and was frustrated by the lack of software (apart from something whose name I've forgotten which allowed me to copy things via a USB cable) and have found the ethernet connection a boon.

Take the plunge - you'll never look back.
martinh8250
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by Me:
“I'd second that - I had one of the first 9200s - it didn't even chase play. I marvelled at the updates which made it more and more usable, but, ultimately I realised that the ever-changing Freeview+ specs were really trying to make it work beyond its capabilities. I've had the HDR-FOX2 for about a year now. I also have a Mac and was frustrated by the lack of software (apart from something whose name I've forgotten which allowed me to copy things via a USB cable) and have found the ethernet connection a boon.

Take the plunge - you'll never look back.”

Thanks 'me',

That is very reassuring have you also considered AppleTV or can you do pretty much all you want with the HDR-FOX2 networked to your iMac.
Me
25-04-2012
Originally Posted by martinh8250:
“
can you do pretty much all you want with the HDR-FOX2 networked to your iMac.”

Yes indeed.

I've actually got an Apple Airport express at the Humax end. My Denon amplifier has a convenient 2-pin mains socket on the back which it plugs into (using a 2-pin Euro connector), so I can connect the audio o/p to the amp, thus streaming iTunes content from the Mac. The ethernet connection goes into the Humax. I use Twonky Media (not free, but doesn't cost much) to stream video files from the Mac and Transmit (again not free, I'm afraid) to FTP files backwards and forwards - mainly from the Mac to the Humax. I also use Transmit to do a bit of file management on the Humax - renaming, deleting, moving to different folders etc. - it's a lot quicker and easier than doing it using the Humax remote.

The wi-fi connection also enables the Humax portal for things like iPlayer and YouTube, though, in reality, I tend to download things and then copy across from the Mac.

Peter
martinh8250
30-04-2012
Originally Posted by Me:
“Yes indeed.

I've actually got an Apple Airport express at the Humax end. My Denon amplifier has a convenient 2-pin mains socket on the back which it plugs into (using a 2-pin Euro connector), so I can connect the audio o/p to the amp, thus streaming iTunes content from the Mac. The ethernet connection goes into the Humax. I use Twonky Media (not free, but doesn't cost much) to stream video files from the Mac and Transmit (again not free, I'm afraid) to FTP files backwards and forwards - mainly from the Mac to the Humax. I also use Transmit to do a bit of file management on the Humax - renaming, deleting, moving to different folders etc. - it's a lot quicker and easier than doing it using the Humax remote.

The wi-fi connection also enables the Humax portal for things like iPlayer and YouTube, though, in reality, I tend to download things and then copy across from the Mac.

Peter”

Hello Peter,

It is some days since your last post while I have been trying to understand the information on the Twonky and DLNA websites. I would be grateful if you could clear up a few points.

I presume I would buy Twonky Manager version 3.0 which would be down loaded to run on the iMac.

Does Twonky somehow start up and respond automatically when you request "multi media and home networking" on the Humax-Fox T2.

I assume it then offers a number options for accessing or transfering media files.

When accessing media from iTunes or iPhoto, does the display on your TV resemble the files as displayed on the iMac, providing the same user interface to select and play back.

Also regarding the network. My NetGear router is near to the TV so I presume that I would not need the Apple Airport Express, but could connect it to the Humax directly with an Ethernet cable.

Regardng the Fox-T2 and Humax in general I see a lot of unfavourable reviews from users about reliability and customer support. Many problems seem to stem from HD corruption. Do you back up your HD. It is a pity they do not offer something like Time Machine on the iMac.
Me
30-04-2012
Originally Posted by martinh8250:
“Hello Peter,

It is some days since your last post while I have been trying to understand the information on the Twonky and DLNA websites. I would be grateful if you could clear up a few points.

I presume I would buy Twonky Manager version 3.0 which would be down loaded to run on the iMac.

Does Twonky somehow start up and respond automatically when you request "multi media and home networking" on the Humax-Fox T2.

I assume it then offers a number options for accessing or transfering media files.

When accessing media from iTunes or iPhoto, does the display on your TV resemble the files as displayed on the iMac, providing the same user interface to select and play back.

Also regarding the network. My NetGear router is near to the TV so I presume that I would not need the Apple Airport Express, but could connect it to the Humax directly with an Ethernet cable.

Regardng the Fox-T2 and Humax in general I see a lot of unfavourable reviews from users about reliability and customer support. Many problems seem to stem from HD corruption. Do you back up your HD. It is a pity they do not offer something like Time Machine on the iMac.”

I shan't be at home for a couple of days and I'll need to check a couple of things for more detailed replies, but essentially, Twonky manager runs in the background on the iMac and is there when the Humax needs it. It's easier to have a dedicated folder on the Mac to put things you wish to stream. I haven't tried to see if putting shortcuts to other folders inside the main one works.

You have to use an FTP client such as Transmit to actually copy things to and from the Humax, and you do this from the Mac, its just like copying things from one folder to another, and you see the file structure of the Humax in a window on the Mac.

Yes you can use the ethernet cable - no problem. Using the Airport express gives me the ability to use my hifi as speakers for iTunes - it just appears as a set of speakers within iTunes.

Hard Drive corruption issues seem to be related to the earlier 9xxx series models. I had a couple of instances with my 9200, but the HDR has been 100% reliable in the year since I've had it.

If there are any programmes I really want to keep, I copy them onto a USB drive which I plug into the front socket. I take the view that "It's only television" and although I would be annoyed if I lost a disc-full of unwatched programmes, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Peter
Martin Liddle
30-04-2012
Originally Posted by martinh8250:
“Regardng the Fox-T2 and Humax in general I see a lot of unfavourable reviews from users about reliability and customer support. Many problems seem to stem from HD corruption.”

File system corruption is not a major problem on the HDR (unlike the 9200/9150/9300) and as the HDR uses the ext3fs there are tools available to fix file system corruption. I think Humax customer support is reasonable providing you ring them up; response to emails seems to be a bit hit and miss. In my expereince the HDR is a very decent bit of kit that has given us no trouble at all in nearly 18 nonths.
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