[Richardcoulter]

It looks like a good deal to me, but I thought i'd ask those that know more than me on here

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop...=HP1&ID=180412

Any info would be appreciated

[JulesandSand]

Well the 28 reviews seem pretty enthusiastic.

[mac2708]

Review here
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sharp...1111101501.htm

[Richardcoulter]

Thanks. People in another thread have pointed out that this TV uses "shutter" glasses and that others use "passive" glasses.

I had no idea there were two types. Does anybody know the difference between the two?

[Chris Simon]

Read up about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_television.

basically, active/shutter glasses = currently the best quality but you get a darker picture and you may perceive flickering. Expensive glasses if you break them or need to get more.

Passive = cheap glasses but more expensive TVs, and technology is catching up with active in terms of quality.

[JulesandSand]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Simon

Read up about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_television.

basically, active/shutter glasses = currently the best quality but you get a darker picture and you may perceive flickering. Expensive glasses if you break them or need to get more.

Passive = cheap glasses but more expensive TVs, and technology is catching up with active in terms of quality.

The top of the range Sony and Panasonic sets use active glasses, cheaper LG sets, for example, use passive.

[mac2708]

Passive vs shutter
http://3dradar.techradar.com/3d-tech...est-24-05-2011

[porkpie]

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulesandSand

The top of the range Sony and Panasonic sets use active glasses, cheaper LG sets, for example, use passive.

Panny £1000+ plasmas use shutter glasses .
The £800 ish LED sets use passive

[Richardcoulter]

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkpie

Panny £1000+ plasmas use shutter glasses .
The £800 ish LED sets use passive

It looks like it's a shutter system:

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop...=HP1&ID=180412

It was £1000, now on offer at £500.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac2708

Passive vs shutter
http://3dradar.techradar.com/3d-tech...est-24-05-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Simon

Read up about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_television.

basically, active/shutter glasses = currently the best quality but you get a darker picture and you may perceive flickering. Expensive glasses if you break them or need to get more.

Passive = cheap glasses but more expensive TVs, and technology is catching up with active in terms of quality.

Thanks for the links, it's appreciated

[evil c]

Which? give this TV a score of 50%. Their Best Buys are in the range 66 to 76% and the Don't Buys start at 39% and drop to 25%. They say the Pros are: Good power management, reasonable 3D performance and the Cons: Poor sound, bad EPG and artificial colours. Here are some extracts from the review for you:

While the LC-40LE831 can deliver excellent levels of detail, its colours are generally poor. Our testers complained of lurid greens and artificial yellows in HD material, and unnatural colours and grainy noise in standard-definition pictures. Even with HD programmes received by the set's built-in Freeview HD tuner, yellows, blues and greens look overblown. Given the price of the TV, performance isn't really good enough.

As a silver lining, the Sharp does better in 3D. The glasses are relatively comfortable, and while there are moments where the two views interfere with each other, and the sense of depth could be greater, at least definition doesn't suffer. The most serious issue here is uneven backlighting, which results in some areas of the screen looking brighter and more vibrant than others.

The LC-40LE831 pumps out a reasonable sound. It's clear, but slightly top-heavy, with natural-sounding vocals and a bit of energy making up for an uneven bass and tone. If you want to connect a separate speaker system, you'll be able to do so easily. The headphone socket doubles up as a line-output, producing good hi-fi sound, and there's an optical audio output at the rear. What's more, one of the HDMI ports supports an ARC audio output through HDMI.

The LC-40LE831 can connect to a range of Net TV internet services through its ethernet port or a bundled USB wi-fi adaptor, but the selection isn't particularly impressive. With no support for BBC iPlayer, LoveFilm or AceTrax, video streaming services are limited to the NetTV Video Store, YouTube, DailyMotion, BoxOffice 365, the Cartoon Network and a handful of others, and while you get Twitter and Skype, there's no Facebook, Picasa or Flickr support.

It all goes wrong when it comes to ease of use. Sharp has done a good job of making the initial installation easy, with a guided installation routine and regional preferences system that both do their jobs. However, the settings menus are daunting (it's all too easy to get lost in all the options), the EPG's default view shows too many channels and programmes, and the option to change it is buried deep within those menus. Switching from day to day is a long-winded process, and confusing icons clutter the screen. Our experts found the remote control long, unbalanced and uncomfortable to hold.

[XxBlaKOuTZxX]

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulesandSand

The top of the range Sony and Panasonic sets use active glasses, cheaper LG sets, for example, use passive.

http://www.johnlewis.com/231570226/Product.aspx


Far from being cheap don't you think. Too many people on here see LG or Samsung TV's as being cheap and inferior to Panasonic and Sony and I don't agree with that. Yeah they have had bad reliability in the past but they ARE getting better as technology advances. According to a lot of people, there's not much difference between "Active" and "Passive" 3D.

[JulesandSand]

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxBlaKOuTZxX

http://www.johnlewis.com/231570226/Product.aspx


Far from being cheap don't you think. Too many people on here see LG or Samsung TV's as being cheap and inferior to Panasonic and Sony and I don't agree with that. Yeah they have had bad reliability in the past but they ARE getting better as technology advances. According to a lot of people, there's not much difference between "Active" and "Passive" 3D.

I said cheaper not cheap, my 55" Sony cost a good bit more than that.

When I bought my TV last year, the Panasonic Plasma and Sony fully LED backlit sets offered better picture quality than the Samsung at the time, although in terms of style, the Samsungs were stunning.

I hardly watch 3D and have never used passive glasses so can't comment on the difference.

[XxBlaKOuTZxX]

My apologies for wording my post wrong. I just think that Samsung and LG models get unfair criticism. Sony and Panasonic tv's are bound to be better and I agree with that as it reflects in their cost. We can't all afford to spend upwards of £3000 for high-end models though. I think most people would be surprised at just how much better Samsung and LG tv's have become instead of just writing them off as being crap. As you said, the style of some Samsung models is stunning.

[1saintly]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardcoulter

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop...=HP1&ID=180412

It was £1000, now on offer at £500.

Its not a bargain of a 50% reduction, £500 is the going rate
http://www.google.com/search?client=...oe=utf-8&gl=uk
i never belive or trust offer prices, a quick google shows its a marketing scam

[TheBigM]

With passive you also see a reduction in resolution.

[mrsgrumpy49]

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1saintly

Its not a bargain of a 50% reduction, £500 is the going rate
http://www.google.com/search?client=...oe=utf-8&gl=uk
i never belive or trust offer prices, a quick google shows its a marketing scam

Around £550 on Amazon I believe. It appears the price of this TV was univerally reduced some months back. May mean a new model is in the offing (if not already here).

[porkpie]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigM

With passive you also see a reduction in resolution.

Unless you have the two side by side you won't notice , rather like the difference between CD and SACD.
The specs show the difference but you'll be hard pushed to tell.

3D with passive still looks great