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Teams should be disqualified if...
they don't fulfil the brief. No way did Adam produce gourmet food. It was horrible cheap muck. Okay, they lost, but Lord Sugar should have disqualified them.
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Or instead of disqualification, a hefty cash penalty should be in order, a bit like in the scavenger hunt task.
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Or instead of disqualification, a hefty cash penalty should be in order, a bit like in the scavenger hunt task.
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Absolutely agree. The brief wasn't fulfilled on the task a couple of weeks back. The team had no product to take to the prospective buyers because they had made a cock up in the ingredients, but they were allowed to go back later with a sample & then went on to win. Should have been disqualified. Alan Sugar loses credibility IMO when he mentions these failures, but then completely ignores them when the team wins.
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Yes, if Adam's team had won, they should have been penalised for not following the task remit.
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Yeah, good idea. He simply did not fulfil the brief.
![]() I am glad LS brought that up that it was too cheap and I am really glad they didn't win!
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......and that's why I think Adam should have gone, not Katie.
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I agree....this year, it seems that teams do not listen properly to the instruction given by LS.
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I agree....this year, it seems that teams do not listen properly to the instruction given by LS.
On this occasion L A brought the lack of gourmet into his criticism when Adam's team lost but if they's won they'd have been praised going on the results of past tasks. |
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Not wishing to come over as a snob but I've never heard of gourmet food being sold outside on a food stall! With respect to people doing that for a living, it seems ridiculous to think people buy gourmet food walking around Scottish streets. I think the premise of this week's task was a tad absurd.
If you want gourmet 'expensive' food - go to an expensive restaurant! |
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The task was a nonsense because he specified high quality food but also said the team that made the most money would win.
We've seen teams be pulled to shreds for not keeping costs down time after time, and I bet if Jenna's team had lost they would have been told they'd spent too much. So Adam's decision to keep costs down was quite logical. There was no definition of 'high quality' apart from 'charging a lot' as far as I can see, which is how Adam could argue they were high quality meatballs but meatballs happen to be best of they're made of fatty meat! |
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That always happens but I'm sure we had penalties in earlier years when they completely went down the wrong track.
On this occasion L A brought the lack of gourmet into his criticism when Adam's team lost but if they's won they'd have been praised going on the results of past tasks. |
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Thank god Adam's team didn't win - they were basically cheating
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Not wishing to come over as a snob but I've never heard of gourmet food being sold outside on a food stall! With respect to people doing that for a living, it seems ridiculous to think people buy gourmet food walking around Scottish streets. I think the premise of this week's task was a tad absurd.
If you want gourmet 'expensive' food - go to an expensive restaurant! Quote:
The task was a nonsense because he specified high quality food but also said the team that made the most money would win.
We've seen teams be pulled to shreds for not keeping costs down time after time, and I bet if Jenna's team had lost they would have been told they'd spent too much. So Adam's decision to keep costs down was quite logical. There was no definition of 'high quality' apart from 'charging a lot' as far as I can see, which is how Adam could argue they were high quality meatballs but meatballs happen to be best of they're made of fatty meat! |
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Not wishing to come over as a snob but I've never heard of gourmet food being sold outside on a food stall! With respect to people doing that for a living, it seems ridiculous to think people buy gourmet food walking around Scottish streets. I think the premise of this week's task was a tad absurd.
If you want gourmet 'expensive' food - go to an expensive restaurant! Now I know I am no expert, but where exactly are these masses of "gourmet" food vans on our streets?. Obviously they have a niche, but apart from specialised food markets, where do they fit?. Was around London a lot last year, and the only times I saw such vans were around Covent Garden, and that was at the height of the tourist season. Can any Edinburgh residents let us know if such vans inhabit the streets of their fair city in September/October when the series is filmed?..... |
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Have to say Floopy, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
Now I know I am no expert, but where exactly are these masses of "gourmet" food vans on our streets?. Obviously they have a niche, but apart from specialised food markets, where do they fit?. Was around London a lot last year, and the only times I saw such vans were around Covent Garden, and that was at the height of the tourist season. Can any Edinburgh residents let us know if such vans inhabit the streets of their fair city in September/October when the series is filmed?..... |
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I agree, thoughtout the whole thing last night I was thinking hes sellnig cheap rubbish for £5.99!!!!
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Well it highlighted his true colours as a bargain basement type of guy. His business plan will, no doubt, be along the lines of something cheap and gimmicky. He's the type of salesman I call 'hit and run', not interested in return business or follow up service.
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Have to say Floopy, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
Now I know I am no expert, but where exactly are these masses of "gourmet" food vans on our streets?. Obviously they have a niche, but apart from specialised food markets, where do they fit?. Was around London a lot last year, and the only times I saw such vans were around Covent Garden, and that was at the height of the tourist season. Can any Edinburgh residents let us know if such vans inhabit the streets of their fair city in September/October when the series is filmed?..... Pre heated food in a van really is not in the same league. |
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Have to say Floopy, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
Now I know I am no expert, but where exactly are these masses of "gourmet" food vans on our streets?. Obviously they have a niche, but apart from specialised food markets, where do they fit?. Was around London a lot last year, and the only times I saw such vans were around Covent Garden, and that was at the height of the tourist season. Can any Edinburgh residents let us know if such vans inhabit the streets of their fair city in September/October when the series is filmed?..... |
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Have to say Floopy, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
Now I know I am no expert, but where exactly are these masses of "gourmet" food vans on our streets?. Obviously they have a niche, but apart from specialised food markets, where do they fit?. Was around London a lot last year, and the only times I saw such vans were around Covent Garden, and that was at the height of the tourist season. Can any Edinburgh residents let us know if such vans inhabit the streets of their fair city in September/October when the series is filmed?..... I've not been to That London for ages, but even 25 years ago when I did live there we got a greater variety of street food than any where else eg falafel, cous-cous. |
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they don't fulfil the brief. No way did Adam produce gourmet food. It was horrible cheap muck. Okay, they lost, but Lord Sugar should have disqualified them.
At least the task was judged on profit, unlike last week's one where Stephen basically won because he threw in lots of freebie equipment, which didn't subtract from sales. Adam got the brief wrong here, whereas Stephen ruthlessly exploited a massive hole in the rules last week. Anyhow, at least the better team won this week - thank God! |
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That's two weeks in a row its all been a bit of a nonsense. At least Adam didn't win this week, but if he had, and nothing done or said it would have really annoyed me. If a team can ignore the brief, and win as a direct result of ignoring it, then it makes a mockery of the whole thing.
Like I said after last week's nonsense of ignoring the free equipment, one idea might be for Sugar to have a wildcard each series that he can use to give a win to the losing team. |
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Well it highlighted his true colours as a bargain basement type of guy. His business plan will, no doubt, be along the lines of something cheap and gimmicky. He's the type of salesman I call 'hit and run', not interested in return business or follow up service.
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That's two weeks in a row its all been a bit of a nonsense. At least Adam didn't win this week, but if he had, and nothing done or said it would have really annoyed me. If a team can ignore the brief, and win as a direct result of ignoring it, then it makes a mockery of the whole thing.
Like I said after last week's nonsense of ignoring the free equipment, one idea might be for Sugar to have a wildcard each series that he can use to give a win to the losing team. Quote:
Maybe he would have penalised them if they'd won, but somehow I doubt it.
At least the task was judged on profit, unlike last week's one where Stephen basically won because he threw in lots of freebie equipment, which didn't subtract from sales. Adam got the brief wrong here, whereas Stephen ruthlessly exploited a massive hole in the rules last week. Anyhow, at least the better team won this week - thank God! Quote:
I agree with this completely. It was as if L A was just responding to what actually happened and if Adam had won he'd have praised him to high heaven for taking a risk and it paying off. Also, Adam was clearly thinking this when he managed the task and after all they only lost by a small amount. Whereas actually following the rules of the task should have been a major consideration.
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He might have given them the "a win's a win, but no treat for you" like with Natasha's team on the "re-investing" task last year.
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That always happens but I'm sure we had penalties in earlier years when they completely went down the wrong track.
On this occasion L A brought the lack of gourmet into his criticism when Adam's team lost but if they's won they'd have been praised going on the results of past tasks. Quote:
The task was a nonsense because he specified high quality food but also said the team that made the most money would win.
We've seen teams be pulled to shreds for not keeping costs down time after time, and I bet if Jenna's team had lost they would have been told they'd spent too much. So Adam's decision to keep costs down was quite logical. There was no definition of 'high quality' apart from 'charging a lot' as far as I can see, which is how Adam could argue they were high quality meatballs but meatballs happen to be best of they're made of fatty meat! |
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