[ItJustMyOpinion]

Originally Posted by LostFool

I had to share a bedroom until I was 16. I couldn't have had a girl around at 13 if I'd wanted to (though I'm not sure that I knew what girls were for at 13...)

My grandparent came form a family of 15 and they had a two bedroom house and claimed zero benefits. Pardon me if I do not get too upset by the the pleading of left wing social housing officials.

[LostFool]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

Watching This Week. Can't believe the bloke on there atm stated the nation is ''gripped by Leveson''. More likely they are gripped by the crippingly cost of living.

Quite right. I haven't heard anyone a work or down the pub mention it. It's very much a "Westminster Village" story for us political anoraks. Normal people couldn't care less.

[footygirl]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

LOL, all of them got demolished by Galloway last week. Mrs Balls got owned by him. That whole QT was a DA/GG. The only standout of the main parties, I hate to say was Tim Farron.

Oh come on GG is just playing to the crowd - there is no way I would pay any attention to the former member for Baghdad Central

[Lyricalis]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

Maybe. I'd probably scuntinse Balls' on the economy, tbh. Cooper her women's issues.

Watching This Week. Can't believe the bloke on there atm stated the nation is ''gripped by Leveson''. More likely they are gripped by the crippingly cost of living.

He just comes across as another out of touch posh person. He's actually defending a rich businessman who ran a business empire that was breaking the law by bribing police officers and hacking phones.

[2+2=5]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

I've never seen someone blow it in 30 seconds the way Farage did. Toynbee and Abbott definetly blew it on the housing issue, as well though. Loved that lady that confronted Diane and Polly on this issue. I agree, Politicians, nil. Audience one. And that Vince Cable guy was so funny!

You could almost see the colour drain from his face. He realised he had someone who knew the ins and outs of the industry who's eyes he couldn't pull the wool over - irrespective of where they worked. Might be worth seeing again on iPlayer! Or...maybe not

[PrincessPerfect]

Originally Posted by LostFool

Quite right. I haven't heard anyone a work or down the pub mention it. It's very much a "Westminster Village" story for us political anoraks. Normal people couldn't care less.

Indeed. So is the Hunt-saga, for that matter. It's amazing how much newscoverage as well as front page headlines was dedicated to that, instead of the double dip. Cameron must had a crumb of comfort on that one.

[Capablanca]

Originally Posted by 2+2=5

I think London weighting is becoming more and more relevant in salaries too.

I remember a time in the early 90s when a fully detached 5 bedroom home with double garage and huge gardens cost £145k. I cannot put my hand on my heart and say my flat is worth the price I'm paying for it. It's insanity. I question myself on it often!

Yep, friends of mine bought solid 3 bed semis for less than £50K. I wish I'd worked a bit harder then (though I was very young).

[2+2=5]

Originally Posted by footygirl

Oh come on GG is just playing to the crowd - there is no way I would pay any attention to the former member for Baghdad Central

Maybe. But as a firebrand orator he easily overshadowed the other panellists.

[jrio]

Originally Posted by ItJustMyOpinion

People that work in social housing, tend not to be right wing Tory's. Farage is quite right of course, they are all in denial.

No, and social housing is hardly likely to make them more right wing.

It's not immigration that is the driver behind a shortage and the cost of housing. That's been happening since Thatcher sold off swathes of council housing in the 80s. The causes have been:

Marked increase in single occupier households

The promotion of housing as an investment

The withdrawal from council house building

The lack of any regulatory standards in the rented sector

[ItJustMyOpinion]

Originally Posted by Capablanca

Probably is...he said he was in a predominantly a white borough.

What Newham!!!

That's like saying Kensington & Chelsea is poverty stricken.

[LostFool]

Originally Posted by 2+2=5

You could almost see the colour drain from his face. He realised he had someone who knew the ins and outs of the industry who's eyes he couldn't pull the wool over - irrespective of where they worked. Might be worth seeing again on iPlayer! Or...maybe not

So social work is an "industry" now is it? No wonder he was so keen on justifying his own existence.

[footygirl]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

Indeed. So is the Hunt-saga, for that matter. It's amazing how much newscoverage as well as front page headlines was dedicated to that, instead of the double dip. Cameron must had a crumb of comfort on that one.

He wont be smiling for long - not when his Councillors take the fallout next week in thre local elections - and the Lib Dem's too - it will be guilt by association

[jrio]

Originally Posted by ItJustMyOpinion

My grandparent came form a family of 15 and they had a two bedroom house and claimed zero benefits. Pardon me if I do not get too upset by the the pleading of left wing social housing officials.

Well, if it was good enough for them...

I expect they were poor but happy.

[footygirl]

Originally Posted by 2+2=5

Maybe. But as a firebrand orator he easily overshadowed the other panellists.

Yeah we call that being barking mad where i live

[PrincessPerfect]

Originally Posted by 2+2=5

You could almost see the colour drain from his face. He realised he had someone who knew the ins and outs of the industry who's eyes he couldn't pull the wool over - irrespective of where they worked. Might be worth seeing again on iPlayer! Or...maybe not

His face was a picture. He wore the ''oh shit'' look very well.

Originally Posted by Lyricalis

He just comes across as another out of touch posh person. He's actually defending a rich businessman who ran a business empire that was breaking the law by bribing police officers and hacking phones.

I agree actually. I can't believe, he believes Murdoch when he says he asked nothing of PMs. That's obviously BS.

Originally Posted by footygirl

Oh come on GG is just playing to the crowd - there is no way I would pay any attention to the former member for Baghdad Central

There's certaintly an element of that, yes. Doesn't change the fact he wiped the floor with everyone. The only one that may have escaped, and put up a good fight was DA. And it wasn't just GG playing to the crowd - they all were. Cooper, especially, and she hardly got any mass applause. Warsi just embrassed herself.

[Capablanca]

Originally Posted by ItJustMyOpinion

What Newham!!!

That's like saying Kensington & Chelsea is poverty stricken.

No... he worked somewhere else. He looked like a Twickenham 'chap'! Real ale and rugby type.

[PrincessPerfect]

Originally Posted by footygirl

He wont be smiling for long - not when his Councillors take the fallout next week in thre local elections - and the Lib Dem's too - it will be guilt by association

He may well be smiling if Boris wins London. And there's certaintly a chance he could well do. He may even be smiling if Labour lose control of Glasgow, or worse the SNP take full control.

[LostFool]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

Indeed. So is the Hunt-saga, for that matter. It's amazing how much newscoverage as well as front page headlines was dedicated to that, instead of the double dip. Cameron must had a crumb of comfort on that one.

It's been a good week to release bad economic news

[ItJustMyOpinion]

Originally Posted by 2+2=5

You could almost see the colour drain from his face. He realised he had someone who knew the ins and outs of the industry who's eyes he couldn't pull the wool over - irrespective of where they worked. Might be worth seeing again on iPlayer! Or...maybe not

I'm off to watch it now. Why are you taking the guy from the housing industry's word for it, for all we know he's speaking from a personal and political position and just using his job to add weight to his argument.

You aren't going to be an anti immigration, welfare control , right winger and be a social housing officer, are you?

[Styker]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

Maybe, one day The day that Ed Balls/Yvette Cooper appear on QT.

They wouldn't be on together.

Ed was on todays DP though. You should have seen the other day at Treasury Questions. A Lib Dem MP, John Pugh asked a pretty crawling up question to Georgie boy or Alexander and you should have seen the long outraged disgusted look Ed Balls gave him. I'm sure he said "CRAP" to him first as well! It was so funny but brilliant by Ed Balls I thought! Thats him in his Rotweiller mode for sure!

[footygirl]

Originally Posted by PrincessPerfect

He may well be smiling if Boris wins London. And there's certaintly a chance he could well do. He may even be smiling if Labour lose control of Glasgow, or worse the SNP take full control.

I wouldn't put any money on it - Red Ken has a lot of popularity

[ItJustMyOpinion]

Originally Posted by jrio

No, and social housing is hardly likely to make them more right wing.

It's not immigration that is the driver behind a shortage and the cost of housing. That's been happening since Thatcher sold off swathes of council housing in the 80s. The causes have been:

Marked increase in single occupier households

The promotion of housing as an investment

The withdrawal from council house building

The lack of any regulatory standards in the rented sector

So where are all the three million newcomers since the Blair era started, camping in some field somewhere?

[Wallasey Saint]

Originally Posted by Lyricalis

He just comes across as another out of touch posh person. He's actually defending a rich businessman who ran a business empire that was breaking the law by bribing police officers and hacking phones.

Switched over after wanting to throw a brick at my TV at that idiot, trying to sweep it under the carpet. However the Public are more worried about the economy, than anything happening at Leveson, although Leveson is quite important.

[Capablanca]

Originally Posted by ItJustMyOpinion

So where are all the three million newcomers since the Blair era started, camping in some field somewhere?

Actually, quite a few are!

[2+2=5]

Originally Posted by footygirl

I wouldn't put any money on it - Red Ken has a lot of popularity

Hard to say for sure how it will go. But I find it increasingly more difficult to believe Ken will be back! His crying incident has got me wondering if there's some private issues in his life. Or maybe he really did genuinely feel a sense of responsibility?