Zak, as you're the PM for Viveza, I'm still waiting to hear from you on this one.
The Digital Spy Apprentice - Series 2 - Task Five Boardroom
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Sorry about my lack of replies at the minute, just swapped computers so I can post properly. Whilst this may be shock some of you, I have never read, seen or cared about anything to do with The Hunger Games ever since it became popular, so I am not exactly familiar with the storyline or anything about it in fact. So I don’t see why I’d be the best person to give a response to the similarities, solely because I acted as the leader in this task, it doesn’t necessarily make my opinion more valid than others.
However, there’s not much to say that Carlisle hasn’t, I would simply be repeating him. It was brought up in the beginning of the task that it may be too similar to The Hunger Games, which was always going to happen, but then we worked on ways to dissimilar our concept and I thought we’ve came up with a fantastic idea and the reason we lose should not be because it’s a little similar to something.
However, there’s not much to say that Carlisle hasn’t, I would simply be repeating him. It was brought up in the beginning of the task that it may be too similar to The Hunger Games, which was always going to happen, but then we worked on ways to dissimilar our concept and I thought we’ve came up with a fantastic idea and the reason we lose should not be because it’s a little similar to something.
I'm sorry my phone won't let me load the bottom of the 4th page if I was asked something can you re ask?
Originally Posted by Satanel:
“Sorry about my lack of replies at the minute, just swapped computers so I can post properly. Whilst this may be shock some of you, I have never read, seen or cared about anything to do with The Hunger Games ever since it became popular, so I am not exactly familiar with the storyline or anything about it in fact. So I don’t see why I’d be the best person to give a response to the similarities, solely because I acted as the leader in this task, it doesn’t necessarily make my opinion more valid than others.
However, there’s not much to say that Carlisle hasn’t, I would simply be repeating him. It was brought up in the beginning of the task that it may be too similar to The Hunger Games, which was always going to happen, but then we worked on ways to dissimilar our concept and I thought we’ve came up with a fantastic idea and the reason we lose should not be because it’s a little similar to something.”
“Sorry about my lack of replies at the minute, just swapped computers so I can post properly. Whilst this may be shock some of you, I have never read, seen or cared about anything to do with The Hunger Games ever since it became popular, so I am not exactly familiar with the storyline or anything about it in fact. So I don’t see why I’d be the best person to give a response to the similarities, solely because I acted as the leader in this task, it doesn’t necessarily make my opinion more valid than others.
However, there’s not much to say that Carlisle hasn’t, I would simply be repeating him. It was brought up in the beginning of the task that it may be too similar to The Hunger Games, which was always going to happen, but then we worked on ways to dissimilar our concept and I thought we’ve came up with a fantastic idea and the reason we lose should not be because it’s a little similar to something.”
This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.
Originally Posted by Satanel:
“Sorry about my lack of replies at the minute, just swapped computers so I can post properly. Whilst this may be shock some of you, I have never read, seen or cared about anything to do with The Hunger Games ever since it became popular, so I am not exactly familiar with the storyline or anything about it in fact. So I don’t see why I’d be the best person to give a response to the similarities, solely because I acted as the leader in this task, it doesn’t necessarily make my opinion more valid than others.
However, there’s not much to say that Carlisle hasn’t, I would simply be repeating him. It was brought up in the beginning of the task that it may be too similar to The Hunger Games, which was always going to happen, but then we worked on ways to dissimilar our concept and I thought we’ve came up with a fantastic idea and the reason we lose should not be because it’s a little similar to something.”
“Sorry about my lack of replies at the minute, just swapped computers so I can post properly. Whilst this may be shock some of you, I have never read, seen or cared about anything to do with The Hunger Games ever since it became popular, so I am not exactly familiar with the storyline or anything about it in fact. So I don’t see why I’d be the best person to give a response to the similarities, solely because I acted as the leader in this task, it doesn’t necessarily make my opinion more valid than others.
However, there’s not much to say that Carlisle hasn’t, I would simply be repeating him. It was brought up in the beginning of the task that it may be too similar to The Hunger Games, which was always going to happen, but then we worked on ways to dissimilar our concept and I thought we’ve came up with a fantastic idea and the reason we lose should not be because it’s a little similar to something.”
All right, so you're disclaiming responsibility on this one, but you remain fully behind the idea?
I'm going to move forward to the results.
I'm going to move forward to the results.
Originally Posted by cheekypeter:
“This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.”
“This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.”
My parts of the pitch which Naruto and I wrote don't reference THG at all.
Originally Posted by jag02010:
“My parts of the pitch which Naruto and I wrote don't reference THG at all.”
“My parts of the pitch which Naruto and I wrote don't reference THG at all.”
This.
To sum up, both teams did an excellent job with the presentation of their pitch; there were no criticisms there.
We felt that Reflections had a fantastic concept, but that the team as a whole didn't seem to work together especially well, and there were several concerns raised as to their pricing and their decision to go for a console game.
As for Viveza, they clearly banded together and their PC game strategy seemed to be more realistic; however, we had many issues when it came to the originality of the concept.
We felt that Reflections had a fantastic concept, but that the team as a whole didn't seem to work together especially well, and there were several concerns raised as to their pricing and their decision to go for a console game.
As for Viveza, they clearly banded together and their PC game strategy seemed to be more realistic; however, we had many issues when it came to the originality of the concept.
Originally Posted by jag02010:
“My parts of the pitch which Naruto and I wrote don't reference THG at all.”
“My parts of the pitch which Naruto and I wrote don't reference THG at all.”
What about Zak? I assume you signed it off?
Taking all that into consideration, the winning team is Team Reflections!
Well done, Reflections - we loved your concept, and although you perhaps fell down a little on the realism, we felt that those would be easily fixable issues. I'll see you all on the next task!
As for Viveza, though, this isn't over for you.
Well done, Reflections - we loved your concept, and although you perhaps fell down a little on the realism, we felt that those would be easily fixable issues. I'll see you all on the next task!
As for Viveza, though, this isn't over for you.
Originally Posted by cheekypeter:
“What about Zak? I assume you signed it off?”
“What about Zak? I assume you signed it off?”
I didn't do the pitch, nor the explanation. I strictly did the donations part (task five) and the donation rewards (task six).
Originally Posted by cheekypeter:
“This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.”
“This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.”
Sorry, I would have replied to this had I seen it earlier. I would say that what Carlisle was trying to do when writing the explanation of the concept is to identify the main good points of The Hunger Games, the largest-selling whatever, and explain how the inclusion of some of this is why our game should also be just as successful if not more than that of The Hunger Games. Carlisle handed his stuff in late, from no fault of his own of course, so we didn't necessarily have a lot of time to edit. However, I didn't think it was too bad of a thing to include in the explanation. There were zero comparisons made in our pitch though.
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& congratulations Reflections!
Thank you!
Not me. I think I am the only person who contributed to the originality of the idea, which is mainly why we lost.
Originally Posted by cheekypeter:
“This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.”
“This is fair enough, but my issue - which for the third time now no one has answered - is why so much of your pitch was built around THG. I quoted a great chunk to Carly before which suggested you went with the idea BECAUSE of the similarities.”
Sorry but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick with this.
As I thought was pretty self-explanatory (and others seem to have grasped this) - the reason for the inclusion of this is that there IS a demand for a survival style of game ... reflecting that we WOULD get the interest!!
I don't think your concept was especially bad or worse than Reflections', but the biggest thing that's let you down is the originality aspect. Yes, there are some differing qualities, but at heart the idea is the same as The Hunger Games (& Battle Royale).
Originally Posted by jag02010:
“Not me. I think I am the only person who contributed to the originality of the idea, which is mainly why we lost.”
“Not me. I think I am the only person who contributed to the originality of the idea, which is mainly why we lost.”
Did it occur to you, though, that the unoriginal aspects would be problematic? Like scavenging for food, the potential for alliances, etc. And if so, did you voice your concerns?
Originally Posted by jag02010:
“Not me. I think I am the only person who contributed to the originality of the idea, which is mainly why we lost.”
“Not me. I think I am the only person who contributed to the originality of the idea, which is mainly why we lost.”
You're right, you shouldn't take any blame for the idea. What ideas did you come up with???? Oh wait.
I think due to the fact we lost because of originality then it is Carlisle as i did mention that it would get criticised if seen as a copy of The Hunger Games.
Originally Posted by anactoria:
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Did it occur to you, though, that the unoriginal aspects would be problematic? Like scavenging for food, the potential for alliances, etc. And if so, did you voice your concerns?
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I think the only objection I saw from Justin in regards to originality was to Carlisle's suggestion of the game being set in a dystopian world.
Originally Posted by NarutoFan100:
“I think due to the fact we lost because of originality then it is Carlisle as i did mention that it would get criticised if seen as a copy of The Hunger Games.”
“I think due to the fact we lost because of originality then it is Carlisle as i did mention that it would get criticised if seen as a copy of The Hunger Games.”
Yes, I heard that you were critical of the unoriginality of the concept. Did you suggest ideas to differentiate it? Or even come up with entirely different game concepts?
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