Very large screen - HD - non-Freeview?

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 17:47

Can anyone recommend a very large screen - HD - non-Freeview TV?

I was looking at the Samsung PS60E530, and was impressed, but it has Freeview, and I'm looking for one without.

call100 · 29-04-2012, 17:56

Here you go.
I think it would be cheaper to get a tuner included and just ignore the fact that it's there....i never use the inbuilt monitors in mine...Why is it so important for it to have none?

JulesandSand · 29-04-2012, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by call100

Here you go.
I think it would be cheaper to get a tuner included and just ignore the fact that it's there....i never use the inbuilt monitors in mine...Why is it so important for it to have none?

As I do with my TVs connected to Sky HD boxes as the FV PQ is so bad.

C'mon OP - enlighten us.

Virgil Tracy · 29-04-2012, 18:26

is Freeview-HD no good ?

I ask because I'm thinking of getting a HD tv , whats the best way of watching HD tv channels ?

Nigel Goodwin · 29-04-2012, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob

Can anyone recommend a very large screen - HD - non-Freeview TV?

I was looking at the Samsung PS60E530, and was impressed, but it has Freeview, and I'm looking for one without.

I would have thought Freeview is mandatory now? - it's long past the time of analogue only sets.

Assuming you can manage to find a monitor at the size you want, it will be a LOT more expensive - just buy a TV and don't use the tuner.

JulesandSand · 29-04-2012, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy

is Freeview-HD no good ?

I ask because I'm thinking of getting a HD tv , whats the best way of watching HD tv channels ?

Freeview HD is OK, Freeview SD is atrocious.

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by call100

Why is it so important for it to have none?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulesandSand

As I do with my TVs connected to Sky HD boxes as the FV PQ is so bad.

C'mon OP - enlighten us.

No TV Licence.

Virgil Tracy · 29-04-2012, 18:36

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Originally Posted by JulesandSand

Freeview HD is OK, Freeview SD is atrocious.

do you need an aerial upgrade or anything for freeview-HD ?

my aerial signal is pretty good .

JulesandSand · 29-04-2012, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy

do you need an aerial upgrade or anything for freeview-HD ?

my aerial signal is pretty good .

I didn't and if your signal strength is good I don't imagine you will either.

JulesandSand · 29-04-2012, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob

No TV Licence.

I'm guessing here, but what you might save on buying a 'standard' TV would pay for a TV licence

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 18:47

For how many years?

Even without any fee increases, 10 licences is £1,450, which I'd be paying for channels I can't receive.

Roush · 29-04-2012, 18:52

If you're not actually using the TV to watch live TV transmissions then you don't need a TV license, irrespective of whether or not the TV is capable of receiving live transmissions (providing you're not using another device to receive live TV of course).

With that being the case, I can't see why it matters if it has a Freeview tuner?

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 18:58

I know that, but they aren't averse to a bit of "installing" themselves.

1saintly · 29-04-2012, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulesandSand

Freeview HD is OK, Freeview SD is atrocious.

Fine on my TV

1saintly · 29-04-2012, 19:03

can you please clarify for me OP.

What will you be using the TV to watch if you dont have a licence?

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 19:03

Looking at the prices, maybe I'd be better with a HD projector?

They certainly couldn't "install" one of them.

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 19:05

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Originally Posted by 1saintly

What will you be using the TV to watch if you dont have a licence?

BluRays and DVDs (of which I have A LOT), plus connecting my Laptop to it.

1saintly · 29-04-2012, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob

BluRays and DVDs (of which I have A LOT), plus connecting my Laptop to it.

So you dont have sky or virgin etc? as well as not having ''Normal Terestial TV'' ?
or watch IPlayer?

Roush · 29-04-2012, 19:07

We used to have DVD combi units that were used to show training videos 'deactivated' at work by the company that supplied them, as we didn't have TV licenses at any of our sites.

In reality all they did was to open them up and remove the aerial socket from the PCB. Not ideal by any means, but it served its purpose.

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1saintly

So you don't have sky or virgin etc? as well as not having ''Normal Terestial TV'' ?
or watch IPlayer?

No Sky, Virgin etc.

I watch Iplayer on my computer, but only catch-up, not live.

Bedsit Bob · 29-04-2012, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roush

In reality all they did was to open them up and remove the aerial socket from the PCB.

Not sure I'd want to do that, on a brand new, £1,000 TV.

Also, wouldn't disabling Freeview in that way, interfere with the other functions?

JulesandSand · 29-04-2012, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob

For how many years?

Even without any fee increases, 10 licences is £1,450, which I'd be paying for channels I can't receive.

Good point.

1saintly · 29-04-2012, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob

No Sky, Virgin etc.

I watch Iplayer on my computer, but only catch-up, not live.

Well its still dodgy watching it on catch up, as that means you have a device that can stream it live.

quote....
What will happen if I don't have a TV licence?

It is a criminal offence to watch 'live' television without a TV licence or to possess or control a device which you know or reasonably believe will be used to watch 'live' TV without a TV licence. You could be prosecuted and fined up to £1000 (plus be ordered to pay legal costs) for these offences.

Lurch · 29-04-2012, 19:22

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Originally Posted by 1saintly

Well its still dodgy watching it on catch up, as that means you have a device that can stream it live.

Read the bit you quoted again. It actually says the opposite of what you think it does.

fastest finger · 29-04-2012, 19:24

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29-04-2012, 17:47	#1
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	Very large screen - HD - non-Freeview? Can anyone recommend a very large screen - HD - non-Freeview TV? I was looking at the Samsung PS60E530, and was impressed, but it has Freeview, and I'm looking for one without.

29-04-2012, 17:56	#2
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	Here you go. I think it would be cheaper to get a tuner included and just ignore the fact that it's there....i never use the inbuilt monitors in mine...Why is it so important for it to have none?

29-04-2012, 18:10	#3
JulesandSand Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Caledonia Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by call100 Here you go. I think it would be cheaper to get a tuner included and just ignore the fact that it's there....i never use the inbuilt monitors in mine...Why is it so important for it to have none? As I do with my TVs connected to Sky HD boxes as the FV PQ is so bad. C'mon OP - enlighten us.

29-04-2012, 18:26	#4
Virgil Tracy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24,023	is Freeview-HD no good ? I ask because I'm thinking of getting a HD tv , whats the best way of watching HD tv channels ?

29-04-2012, 18:32	#5
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob Can anyone recommend a very large screen - HD - non-Freeview TV? I was looking at the Samsung PS60E530, and was impressed, but it has Freeview, and I'm looking for one without. I would have thought Freeview is mandatory now? - it's long past the time of analogue only sets. Assuming you can manage to find a monitor at the size you want, it will be a LOT more expensive - just buy a TV and don't use the tuner.

29-04-2012, 18:32	#6
JulesandSand Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Caledonia Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy is Freeview-HD no good ? I ask because I'm thinking of getting a HD tv , whats the best way of watching HD tv channels ? Freeview HD is OK, Freeview SD is atrocious.

29-04-2012, 18:35	#7
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	Quote: Originally Posted by call100 Why is it so important for it to have none? Quote: Originally Posted by JulesandSand As I do with my TVs connected to Sky HD boxes as the FV PQ is so bad. C'mon OP - enlighten us. No TV Licence.

29-04-2012, 18:36	#8
Virgil Tracy Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24,023	Quote: Originally Posted by JulesandSand Freeview HD is OK, Freeview SD is atrocious. do you need an aerial upgrade or anything for freeview-HD ? my aerial signal is pretty good .

29-04-2012, 18:38	#9
JulesandSand Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Caledonia Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy do you need an aerial upgrade or anything for freeview-HD ? my aerial signal is pretty good . I didn't and if your signal strength is good I don't imagine you will either.

29-04-2012, 18:39	#10
JulesandSand Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Caledonia Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob No TV Licence. I'm guessing here, but what you might save on buying a 'standard' TV would pay for a TV licence

29-04-2012, 18:47	#11
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	For how many years? Even without any fee increases, 10 licences is £1,450, which I'd be paying for channels I can't receive.

29-04-2012, 18:52	#12
Roush Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 2,938	If you're not actually using the TV to watch live TV transmissions then you don't need a TV license, irrespective of whether or not the TV is capable of receiving live transmissions (providing you're not using another device to receive live TV of course). With that being the case, I can't see why it matters if it has a Freeview tuner?

29-04-2012, 18:58	#13
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	I know that, but they aren't averse to a bit of "installing" themselves.

29-04-2012, 18:58	#14
1saintly Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,665	Quote: Originally Posted by JulesandSand Freeview HD is OK, Freeview SD is atrocious. Fine on my TV

29-04-2012, 19:03	#15
1saintly Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,665	can you please clarify for me OP. What will you be using the TV to watch if you dont have a licence?

29-04-2012, 19:05	#17
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	Quote: Originally Posted by 1saintly What will you be using the TV to watch if you dont have a licence? BluRays and DVDs (of which I have A LOT), plus connecting my Laptop to it.

29-04-2012, 19:06	#18
1saintly Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,665	Quote: Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob BluRays and DVDs (of which I have A LOT), plus connecting my Laptop to it. So you dont have sky or virgin etc? as well as not having ''Normal Terestial TV'' ? or watch IPlayer?

29-04-2012, 19:07	#19
Roush Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 2,938	We used to have DVD combi units that were used to show training videos 'deactivated' at work by the company that supplied them, as we didn't have TV licenses at any of our sites. In reality all they did was to open them up and remove the aerial socket from the PCB. Not ideal by any means, but it served its purpose.

29-04-2012, 19:09	#20
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	Quote: Originally Posted by 1saintly So you don't have sky or virgin etc? as well as not having ''Normal Terestial TV'' ? or watch IPlayer? No Sky, Virgin etc. I watch Iplayer on my computer, but only catch-up, not live.

29-04-2012, 19:11	#21
Bedsit Bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North West Posts: 23,325	Quote: Originally Posted by Roush In reality all they did was to open them up and remove the aerial socket from the PCB. Not sure I'd want to do that, on a brand new, £1,000 TV. Also, wouldn't disabling Freeview in that way, interfere with the other functions?

29-04-2012, 19:14	#23
1saintly Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,665	Quote: Originally Posted by Bedsit Bob No Sky, Virgin etc. I watch Iplayer on my computer, but only catch-up, not live. Well its still dodgy watching it on catch up, as that means you have a device that can stream it live. quote.... What will happen if I don't have a TV licence? It is a criminal offence to watch 'live' television without a TV licence *or to possess or control a device which you know or reasonably believe will be used to watch 'live' TV without a TV licence*. You could be prosecuted and fined up to £1000 (plus be ordered to pay legal costs) for these offences.

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29-04-2012, 19:22	#24
Lurch Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 2,408	Quote: Originally Posted by 1saintly Well its still dodgy watching it on catch up, as that means you have a device that can stream it live. Read the bit you quoted again. It actually says the opposite of what you think it does.

29-04-2012, 19:24	#25
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