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Old 04-05-2012, 11:11
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one word to describe her.... USELESS
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Old 06-05-2012, 17:10
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one word to describe her.... USELESS
Another is rude and ungracious.

I was appalled by her refusal to acknowledge Azhar as she left the boardroom. H
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Old 07-05-2012, 14:07
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Jade is a manipulative b***h

Karren is completley disingenous in not pointing it out to Sugar

The b**ch has to go - and I hope she takes a mauling on You're Fired
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Old 07-05-2012, 22:18
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My God! Might as well call this the Jade Bashing Thread...
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Old 07-05-2012, 22:22
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My God! Might as well call this the Jade Bashing Thread...
Had I considered Jade an efficient PM with the ability to mange her team I would have posted to this effect. As it happens in last week's task I found her rude and ungracious - an opinion I chose to express on DS. Why is that considered bashing?
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Old 07-05-2012, 22:37
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Had I considered Jade an efficient PM with the ability to mange her team I would have posted to this effect. As it happens in last week's task I found her rude and ungracious - an opinion I chose to express on DS. Why is that considered bashing?
To be honest, I was more affected by the this post:

Jade is a manipulative b***h

Karren is completley disingenous in not pointing it out to Sugar

The b**ch has to go - and I hope she takes a mauling on You're Fired
Which had no basis whatsoever. But, as for your comment, she explained on Twitter why she just walked straight out of there. To say she is rude, for me, wouldn't tally with what had happened in the previous six weeks of the process.
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Old 07-05-2012, 22:45
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sorry her explanation isn't good enough - and she is not good enough- doesn't deserve to be there
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Old 07-05-2012, 22:48
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sorry her explanation isn't good enough - and she is not good enough- doesn't deserve to be there
OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?
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Old 07-05-2012, 22:59
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OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?
She took Tom into the boardroom because she did not have the guts to take in Laura who was next to useless last week - girls sticking together was it ?

That is manipulative for me - she was desperate to save her skin even though she must have known she did not deserve to stay

And she was a bi*ch to Azhar
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:01
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OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?
Well, I felt she was pretty manipulative in the boardroom, although that could be regarded as a quality - in my view, that's what saved her in there last week

On the second word though, I'm totally with you: it always saddens me when people feel that just because someone's on tv for a little while means they're fair game for abuse to be hurled at them and how quick they forget these are people just like the rest of us and as such deserve the same respect

It's especially terrible considering that it is not impossible that they could actually come here and read this - we know that has already happen, after all....I wonder if, when people write that stuff, they ever consider how they would feel if they were to read such things about themselves from people they have never met in their life and to whom they haven't done anything
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:12
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She took Tom into the boardroom because she did not have the guts to take in Laura who was next to useless last week - girls sticking together was it ?

That is manipulative for me - she was desperate to save her skin even though she must have known she did not deserve to stay,

And she was a bi*ch to Azhar
I'm not arguing with you about whether or not she deserved to stay. (She's one of my favourites and even I would have probably fired her last week) However, of course she's going to save her skin! She's in a competition and she'll do what she can to stay in the competition, as would the other 15 candidates. Do you expect her, just because she's done a bad job as PM to say to Sugar "OK, I deserve to go - fire me now"?

Also, surely, if she was so desperate to stay in, she should have brought in Laura (sitting duck) than Tom (Pretty much safe)?

She made her choice and I think she was just trying to stick to it.

And please? A bitch to Azhar? All he did was repeat the word strategy over and over without offering any solutions. She had nothing to take from that.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:16
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Well, I felt she was pretty manipulative in the boardroom, although that could be regarded as a quality - in my view, that's what saved her in there last week

On the second word though, I'm totally with you: it always saddens me when people feel that just because someone's on tv for a little while means they're fair game for abuse to be hurled at them and how quick they forget these are people just like the rest of us and as such deserve the same respect

It's especially terrible considering that it is not impossible that they could actually come here and read this - we know that has already happen, after all....I wonder if, when people write that stuff, they ever consider how they would feel if they were to read such things about themselves from people they have never met in their life and to whom they haven't done anything
If I behaved as rudely and ungraciously as Jade did last week I could have no complaints if this was pointed out. If she reads my opinion and doesn't like it - tough. She chose to appear on one of tv's most viewed programmes, where viewers will form an opinion based not only on her business acumen but also the manner in which she behaves.

If she is capable of self reflection she might realise that her behaviour was boorish in the extreme and a lesson might have been learnt: who knows?
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:19
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I'm not arguing with you about whether or not she deserved to stay. (She's one of my favourites and even I would have probably fired her last week) However, of course she's going to save her skin! She's in a competition and she'll do what she can to stay in the competition, as would the other 15 candidates. Do you expect her, just because she's done a bad job as PM to say to Sugar "OK, I deserve to go - fire me now"?

Also, surely, if she was so desperate to stay in, she should have brought in Laura (sitting duck) than Tom (Pretty much safe)?

She made her choice and I think she was just trying to stick to it.

And please? A bitch to Azhar? All he did was repeat the word strategy over and over without offering any solutions. She had nothing to take from that.
Just a thought - she could have explained her strategy - if she'd had one; which she didn't.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:20
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If I behaved as rudely and ungraciously as Jade did last week I could have no complaints if this was pointed out. If she reads my opinion and doesn't like it - tough. She chose to appear on one of tv's most viewed programmes, where viewers will form an opinion based not only on her business acumen but also the manner in which she behaves.

If she is capable of self reflection she might realise that her behaviour was boorish in the extreme.
Are you referring to when she walked out of the boardroom without talking to Azhar?

Because she explained that on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJadeNa...04902418886657


Just a thought - she could have explained her strategy - that, of course, is if she'd had one; which she didn't.
That doesn't make her a b*tch. As I've said earlier, I'm not arguing that she shouldn't have been fired on the basis of the task, I'm objecting to using words like "manipulative" and "b*tch" to describe her with very little basis.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:26
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Are you referring to when she walked out of the boardroom without talking to Azhar?

Because she explained that on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJadeNa...04902418886657
Her excuse (and I consider it more an excuse than an explanation) simply shows that she put her own needs took priority over basic good manners and consideration for the fired candidate.

Selfish as well as rude and ungracious.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:28
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Her excuse (and I consider it more an excuse than an explanation) simply shows that she put her own needs took priority over basic good manners and consideration for the fired candidate.

Selfish as well as rude and ungracious.
I think its very easy to judge. Since neither of us have been on The Apprentice, I don't think we can judge how you feel once you've survived a highly emotionally-charged boardroom, which for her it clearly was.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:28
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That doesn't make her a b*tch. As I've said earlier, I'm not arguing that she shouldn't have been fired on the basis of the task, I'm objecting to using words like "manipulative" and "b*tch" to describe her with very little basis.
I didn't call her a manipulative bitch - though I do think she lacks basic good manners.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:29
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that tweet is a complete cop out
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:31
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that tweet is a complete cop out
What do you think happened then? That she hated Azhar and didn't want to say good luck a la Liz Locke?

The evidence that we saw was that Jade and Azhar had never clashed on previous tasks and, therefore I see no reason to distrust her on the explanation.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:33
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I didn't call her a manipulative bitch - though I do think she lacks basic good manners.
OK, then I apologise, because that was a comment directed at footygirl.

But even so, this is based off one isolated incident in a high-pressure environment, where you may, once in a while, forget tact.

I saw no evidence, prior to this episode, that suggested she was rude.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:33
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I think its very easy to judge. Since neither of us have been on The Apprentice, I don't think we can judge how you feel once you've survived a highly emotionally-charged boardroom, which for her it clearly was.
Of one thing I'm certain - whatever the emotional charge of a situation I would never forget my manners.

After inexplicably escaping a firing Jade showed no concern or consideration for the fired candidate.

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Old 07-05-2012, 23:36
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Of one thing I'm certain - whatever the emotional charge of a situation I would never forget my manners.
Well, possibly she's different. If its one isolated incident and she was perfectly polite in previous episodes (and I am happy to be proved wrong if you think she wasn't), then I wouldn't describe her as rude in general.

The incident was rude, but not her as a person.
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Old 07-05-2012, 23:45
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Well, possibly she's different. If its one isolated incident and she was perfectly polite in previous episodes (and I am happy to be proved wrong if you think she wasn't), then I wouldn't describe her as rude in general.

The incident was rude, but not her as a person.
It's easy to be convivial and polite when life is going well. The true test of one's courteous behavious is the ability to present a stiff upper lip in adversity.

Frightfully British I know.
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Old 08-05-2012, 00:02
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What do you think happened then? That she hated Azhar and didn't want to say good luck a la Liz Locke?

The evidence that we saw was that Jade and Azhar had never clashed on previous tasks and, therefore I see no reason to distrust her on the explanation.
I'd say she felt guilty. She must have known she deserved to be fired. She made a ridiculous claim about making Lord Sugar millions and Azhar didn't really defend himself.
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Old 08-05-2012, 00:04
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I'd say she felt guilty. She must have known she deserved to be fired. She made a ridiculous claim about making Lord Sugar millions and Azhar didn't really defend himself.
Well, she said as much in her confessional at the Cafe when she was talking about who was responsible for them losing the task: "I was PM so probably me".
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