one word to describe her.... USELESS
Unimpressed with Jade....
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Originally Posted by jwestave:
“one word to describe her.... USELESS”
“one word to describe her.... USELESS”
Another is rude and ungracious.
I was appalled by her refusal to acknowledge Azhar as she left the boardroom. H
Jade is a manipulative b***h
Karren is completley disingenous in not pointing it out to Sugar
The b**ch has to go - and I hope she takes a mauling on You're Fired
Karren is completley disingenous in not pointing it out to Sugar
The b**ch has to go - and I hope she takes a mauling on You're Fired
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“My God! Might as well call this the Jade Bashing Thread...”
“My God! Might as well call this the Jade Bashing Thread...”
Had I considered Jade an efficient PM with the ability to mange her team I would have posted to this effect. As it happens in last week's task I found her rude and ungracious - an opinion I chose to express on DS. Why is that considered bashing?
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Had I considered Jade an efficient PM with the ability to mange her team I would have posted to this effect. As it happens in last week's task I found her rude and ungracious - an opinion I chose to express on DS. Why is that considered bashing?”
“Had I considered Jade an efficient PM with the ability to mange her team I would have posted to this effect. As it happens in last week's task I found her rude and ungracious - an opinion I chose to express on DS. Why is that considered bashing?”
To be honest, I was more affected by the this post:
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Jade is a manipulative b***h
Karren is completley disingenous in not pointing it out to Sugar
The b**ch has to go - and I hope she takes a mauling on You're Fired”
“Jade is a manipulative b***h
Karren is completley disingenous in not pointing it out to Sugar
The b**ch has to go - and I hope she takes a mauling on You're Fired”
Which had no basis whatsoever. But, as for your comment, she explained on Twitter why she just walked straight out of there. To say she is rude, for me, wouldn't tally with what had happened in the previous six weeks of the process.
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“sorry her explanation isn't good enough - and she is not good enough- doesn't deserve to be there”
“sorry her explanation isn't good enough - and she is not good enough- doesn't deserve to be there”
OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?”
“OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?”
She took Tom into the boardroom because she did not have the guts to take in Laura who was next to useless last week - girls sticking together was it ?
That is manipulative for me - she was desperate to save her skin even though she must have known she did not deserve to stay
And she was a bi*ch to Azhar
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?”
“OK, she wasn't a good PM. Where's the basis for calling her manipulative and a b*tch?”
Well, I felt she was pretty manipulative in the boardroom, although that could be regarded as a quality - in my view, that's what saved her in there last week
On the second word though, I'm totally with you: it always saddens me when people feel that just because someone's on tv for a little while means they're fair game for abuse to be hurled at them and how quick they forget these are people just like the rest of us and as such deserve the same respect
It's especially terrible considering that it is not impossible that they could actually come here and read this - we know that has already happen, after all....I wonder if, when people write that stuff, they ever consider how they would feel if they were to read such things about themselves from people they have never met in their life and to whom they haven't done anything
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“She took Tom into the boardroom because she did not have the guts to take in Laura who was next to useless last week - girls sticking together was it ?
That is manipulative for me - she was desperate to save her skin even though she must have known she did not deserve to stay,
And she was a bi*ch to Azhar”
“She took Tom into the boardroom because she did not have the guts to take in Laura who was next to useless last week - girls sticking together was it ?
That is manipulative for me - she was desperate to save her skin even though she must have known she did not deserve to stay,
And she was a bi*ch to Azhar”
I'm not arguing with you about whether or not she deserved to stay. (She's one of my favourites and even I would have probably fired her last week) However, of course she's going to save her skin! She's in a competition and she'll do what she can to stay in the competition, as would the other 15 candidates. Do you expect her, just because she's done a bad job as PM to say to Sugar "OK, I deserve to go - fire me now"?
Also, surely, if she was so desperate to stay in, she should have brought in Laura (sitting duck) than Tom (Pretty much safe)?
She made her choice and I think she was just trying to stick to it.
And please? A bitch to Azhar? All he did was repeat the word strategy over and over without offering any solutions. She had nothing to take from that.
Originally Posted by aria28:
“Well, I felt she was pretty manipulative in the boardroom, although that could be regarded as a quality - in my view, that's what saved her in there last week
On the second word though, I'm totally with you: it always saddens me when people feel that just because someone's on tv for a little while means they're fair game for abuse to be hurled at them and how quick they forget these are people just like the rest of us and as such deserve the same respect
It's especially terrible considering that it is not impossible that they could actually come here and read this - we know that has already happen, after all....I wonder if, when people write that stuff, they ever consider how they would feel if they were to read such things about themselves from people they have never met in their life and to whom they haven't done anything”
“Well, I felt she was pretty manipulative in the boardroom, although that could be regarded as a quality - in my view, that's what saved her in there last week
On the second word though, I'm totally with you: it always saddens me when people feel that just because someone's on tv for a little while means they're fair game for abuse to be hurled at them and how quick they forget these are people just like the rest of us and as such deserve the same respect
It's especially terrible considering that it is not impossible that they could actually come here and read this - we know that has already happen, after all....I wonder if, when people write that stuff, they ever consider how they would feel if they were to read such things about themselves from people they have never met in their life and to whom they haven't done anything”
If I behaved as rudely and ungraciously as Jade did last week I could have no complaints if this was pointed out. If she reads my opinion and doesn't like it - tough. She chose to appear on one of tv's most viewed programmes, where viewers will form an opinion based not only on her business acumen but also the manner in which she behaves.
If she is capable of self reflection she might realise that her behaviour was boorish in the extreme and a lesson might have been learnt: who knows?
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“I'm not arguing with you about whether or not she deserved to stay. (She's one of my favourites and even I would have probably fired her last week) However, of course she's going to save her skin! She's in a competition and she'll do what she can to stay in the competition, as would the other 15 candidates. Do you expect her, just because she's done a bad job as PM to say to Sugar "OK, I deserve to go - fire me now"?
Also, surely, if she was so desperate to stay in, she should have brought in Laura (sitting duck) than Tom (Pretty much safe)?
She made her choice and I think she was just trying to stick to it.
And please? A bitch to Azhar? All he did was repeat the word strategy over and over without offering any solutions. She had nothing to take from that.”
“I'm not arguing with you about whether or not she deserved to stay. (She's one of my favourites and even I would have probably fired her last week) However, of course she's going to save her skin! She's in a competition and she'll do what she can to stay in the competition, as would the other 15 candidates. Do you expect her, just because she's done a bad job as PM to say to Sugar "OK, I deserve to go - fire me now"?
Also, surely, if she was so desperate to stay in, she should have brought in Laura (sitting duck) than Tom (Pretty much safe)?
She made her choice and I think she was just trying to stick to it.
And please? A bitch to Azhar? All he did was repeat the word strategy over and over without offering any solutions. She had nothing to take from that.”
Just a thought - she could have explained her strategy - if she'd had one; which she didn't.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“If I behaved as rudely and ungraciously as Jade did last week I could have no complaints if this was pointed out. If she reads my opinion and doesn't like it - tough. She chose to appear on one of tv's most viewed programmes, where viewers will form an opinion based not only on her business acumen but also the manner in which she behaves.
If she is capable of self reflection she might realise that her behaviour was boorish in the extreme.”
“If I behaved as rudely and ungraciously as Jade did last week I could have no complaints if this was pointed out. If she reads my opinion and doesn't like it - tough. She chose to appear on one of tv's most viewed programmes, where viewers will form an opinion based not only on her business acumen but also the manner in which she behaves.
If she is capable of self reflection she might realise that her behaviour was boorish in the extreme.”
Are you referring to when she walked out of the boardroom without talking to Azhar?
Because she explained that on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJadeNa...04902418886657
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Just a thought - she could have explained her strategy - that, of course, is if she'd had one; which she didn't.”
“Just a thought - she could have explained her strategy - that, of course, is if she'd had one; which she didn't.”
That doesn't make her a b*tch. As I've said earlier, I'm not arguing that she shouldn't have been fired on the basis of the task, I'm objecting to using words like "manipulative" and "b*tch" to describe her with very little basis.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Are you referring to when she walked out of the boardroom without talking to Azhar?
Because she explained that on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJadeNa...04902418886657”
“Are you referring to when she walked out of the boardroom without talking to Azhar?
Because she explained that on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJadeNa...04902418886657”
Her excuse (and I consider it more an excuse than an explanation) simply shows that she put her own needs took priority over basic good manners and consideration for the fired candidate.
Selfish as well as rude and ungracious.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Her excuse (and I consider it more an excuse than an explanation) simply shows that she put her own needs took priority over basic good manners and consideration for the fired candidate.
Selfish as well as rude and ungracious.”
“Her excuse (and I consider it more an excuse than an explanation) simply shows that she put her own needs took priority over basic good manners and consideration for the fired candidate.
Selfish as well as rude and ungracious.”
I think its very easy to judge. Since neither of us have been on The Apprentice, I don't think we can judge how you feel once you've survived a highly emotionally-charged boardroom, which for her it clearly was.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“That doesn't make her a b*tch. As I've said earlier, I'm not arguing that she shouldn't have been fired on the basis of the task, I'm objecting to using words like "manipulative" and "b*tch" to describe her with very little basis.”
“That doesn't make her a b*tch. As I've said earlier, I'm not arguing that she shouldn't have been fired on the basis of the task, I'm objecting to using words like "manipulative" and "b*tch" to describe her with very little basis.”
I didn't call her a manipulative bitch - though I do think she lacks basic good manners.
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“that tweet is a complete cop out”
“that tweet is a complete cop out”
What do you think happened then? That she hated Azhar and didn't want to say good luck a la Liz Locke?
The evidence that we saw was that Jade and Azhar had never clashed on previous tasks and, therefore I see no reason to distrust her on the explanation.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I didn't call her a manipulative bitch - though I do think she lacks basic good manners.”
“I didn't call her a manipulative bitch - though I do think she lacks basic good manners.”
OK, then I apologise, because that was a comment directed at footygirl.
But even so, this is based off one isolated incident in a high-pressure environment, where you may, once in a while, forget tact.
I saw no evidence, prior to this episode, that suggested she was rude.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“I think its very easy to judge. Since neither of us have been on The Apprentice, I don't think we can judge how you feel once you've survived a highly emotionally-charged boardroom, which for her it clearly was.”
“I think its very easy to judge. Since neither of us have been on The Apprentice, I don't think we can judge how you feel once you've survived a highly emotionally-charged boardroom, which for her it clearly was.”
Of one thing I'm certain - whatever the emotional charge of a situation I would never forget my manners.
After inexplicably escaping a firing Jade showed no concern or consideration for the fired candidate.
Last edited by Ignazio : 07-05-2012 at 23:37
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Of one thing I'm certain - whatever the emotional charge of a situation I would never forget my manners.”
“Of one thing I'm certain - whatever the emotional charge of a situation I would never forget my manners.”
Well, possibly she's different. If its one isolated incident and she was perfectly polite in previous episodes (and I am happy to be proved wrong if you think she wasn't), then I wouldn't describe her as rude in general.
The incident was rude, but not her as a person.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Well, possibly she's different. If its one isolated incident and she was perfectly polite in previous episodes (and I am happy to be proved wrong if you think she wasn't), then I wouldn't describe her as rude in general.
The incident was rude, but not her as a person.”
“Well, possibly she's different. If its one isolated incident and she was perfectly polite in previous episodes (and I am happy to be proved wrong if you think she wasn't), then I wouldn't describe her as rude in general.
The incident was rude, but not her as a person.”
It's easy to be convivial and polite when life is going well. The true test of one's courteous behavious is the ability to present a stiff upper lip in adversity.
Frightfully British I know.
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“What do you think happened then? That she hated Azhar and didn't want to say good luck a la Liz Locke?
The evidence that we saw was that Jade and Azhar had never clashed on previous tasks and, therefore I see no reason to distrust her on the explanation.”
“What do you think happened then? That she hated Azhar and didn't want to say good luck a la Liz Locke?
The evidence that we saw was that Jade and Azhar had never clashed on previous tasks and, therefore I see no reason to distrust her on the explanation.”
I'd say she felt guilty. She must have known she deserved to be fired. She made a ridiculous claim about making Lord Sugar millions and Azhar didn't really defend himself.
Originally Posted by allafix:
“I'd say she felt guilty. She must have known she deserved to be fired. She made a ridiculous claim about making Lord Sugar millions and Azhar didn't really defend himself.”
“I'd say she felt guilty. She must have known she deserved to be fired. She made a ridiculous claim about making Lord Sugar millions and Azhar didn't really defend himself.”
Well, she said as much in her confessional at the Cafe when she was talking about who was responsible for them losing the task: "I was PM so probably me".
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