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The arrogant thickos keep staying whilst the clever ones seem to be going.
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Remember though she's not been in the bottom three yet. I think that would have been the very small difference between her staying and going.
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Possibly the worst decision so far. Shocking. She brought someone back who she admited within two seconds was the wrong call. That summed her up and she STILL survived -.-
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It wasn't the wrong call - it was the right one but she failed to articulate why. She had established that he had worked out her margins, and Lord Sugar had pointed out that she had gone for too low a margin . That made whoever set the margins vulnerable and she had no reason to bring in anyone else. She couldn't articulate it that clearly and if she had she might have just raised teh question why didn't you over rule him. As he had devised what little strategy she had, he was also a shield against Ahzar who was going to claim she had no strtegy or the wrong strategy. That could, and did, give her someone to support her, and to deflect some fire to Ahzar. In that sense, its the right move.
The point made on going on a low margin was directed at the late sales slashing and especially the fake tan pracing which Tom did not have a direct input in. The first of these was Jade's call totally and she seemed to make the call on the second with Laura as Tom said he had no experience of the product and devolved the task to them. Her own comments that she thought it was a Ģ2.99 product if anything made her vulnerable. If she tried to place the blame on Tom he would have rightly set her right on whose fault those issues where. The fact that she changed her mind in two seconds with Tom made her even more vulnerable as it further reinforced the fairly easy to demonstrate view that she had no control over the task or the team. The main reason she did not get fired was that Azhar did not sell himself or discredit her. Tom did not need to as he knew he was safe due to her reaction and he knew she would go for Azhar. |
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She fought her corner better. Azar would have gone soon enough, felt a bit sorry for him, he had more character than we had seen.. They are always so much nicer and more relaxed when they are on "Your're Fired".
Can't tell who will win yet though. |
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there was no need for Jade to ignore Azhar at the end
I thought that. She seems to have as much class as brain power.
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I think that's one of the worst PM performances I've ever seen on The Apprentice.
I know the edit can portray things differently but it seemed like the only reason LS kept her in was because she is enthusiastic. |
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Terrible of Jade to ignore Azhar at the end. She clearly has no class and a high level of immaturity. I still cant believe she wasnt fired. She was utterly useless on this task. I couldn't believe how bad she was!
Azhar was by no means the best candidate but I did feel sorry for him this week. He clearly understood this task far better than Jade but Jade just chose to ignore him and wouldn't let him put his point of view across or give him a chance to explain it. I was very surprised Karen Brady did not mention this to Sugar. |
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Ludicrous decision from LS! I'm no fan of Azhar but Jade deserved to go 100%
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I think that's one of the worst PM performances I've ever seen on The Apprentice.
I know the edit can portray things differently but it seemed like the only reason LS kept her in was because she is enthusiastic. |
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I think that's one of the worst PM performances I've ever seen on The Apprentice.
First he fires Katie for making mistakes within the task and now he letīs Jade stay for doing the same thing (while she was invisible in the first 6 weeks, unlike Katie)
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I don't think Azhar would have lasted much longer anyway.
But it seems to me that the tasks are becoming less and less significant both in deciding who's fired each episode and who's hired at the end of the series. It's more and more about boardroom performance and prospective business plans. Yes Jade was passionate about herself and her business in the boardroom. But Azhar had already delivered a similar speech last week. He'd have just been repeating himself. So I can't blame him for not saying much. Despite his faults, I'd have given him another chance because he correctly identified how to divide the stock and he was urging Jade to focus and formulate a plan throughout the task instead of persisting with her haphazard approach. I think he's got a better business mind, which is why he's doing quite well for himself now and why he should have stayed on a bit longer. |
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She was crap, but Gabrielle was even worse in Week 1, and that's just limiting things to this series.
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Of the top of my head, I can only think of Paulīs PM stint (the īcheeseī episode from series 3) as being worse.
First he fires Katie for making mistakes within the task and now he letīs Jade stay for doing the same thing (while she was invisible in the first 6 weeks, unlike Katie) ![]() Most of the awful PMs have have slipped from my memory due to how mediocre or bad they where after 8 series of the Apprentice. Rocky, the Boro lad who had to retire from football is one that springs to mind
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It wasn't the wrong call - it was the right one but she failed to articulate why. She had established that he had worked out her margins, and Lord Sugar had pointed out that she had gone for too low a margin . That made whoever set the margins vulnerable and she had no reason to bring in anyone else. She couldn't articulate it that clearly and if she had she might have just raised teh question why didn't you over rule him. As he had devised what little strategy she had, he was also a shield against Ahzar who was going to claim she had no strtegy or the wrong strategy. That could, and did, give her someone to support her, and to deflect some fire to Ahzar. In that sense, its the right move.
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She missed the main strategy of the task - to sniff out what sells!
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Her performance as PM was not that bad. For a start, the margin of defeat was not to big and the team did appear to work cohesively together other than the disagreements with Azhar which where not that disruptive. She made some key errors which ultimately lead to their loss but I have seen poorer PM's numerous times and Nick also made some errors which on another time could have lead to a loss. The big difference was he kept his prices high enough.
Most of the awful PMs have have slipped from my memory due to how mediocre or bad they where after 8 series of the Apprentice. Rocky, the Boro lad who had to retire from football is one that springs to mind ![]() |
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Ridiculous decision. She was enthusiastic ?? Useless, more like ! What on earth is going on ?
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There's no way Jade should have escaped firing. She was pretty much entirely responsible for the team's defeat.
I begin to wonder if Lord Sugar has a bet on with Nick and Karren that he can get all the way to the final without ever firing a PM. |
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Jade was hopeless as PM and, as others have said , LS could have fired both of them. Instead he gave her a second chance , as he has done for others in this series.
Azhar has been in the boardroom repeatedly, with no contribution of any distinction so far. The week he won as PM, the rest of his team suggested he was a waste of space and they had done it in spite of him; nothing said in the boardroom contradicted this impression. So LS gave Azhar three lives and then fired him, and has just given Jade one life . Hard to say that was a bad decision, simply not quite as good a decison as firing the pair of them this evening. |
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Disagree completely.
The point made on going on a low margin was directed at the late sales slashing and especially the fake tan pracing which Tom did not have a direct input in. The first of these was Jade's call totally and she seemed to make the call on the second with Laura as Tom said he had no experience of the product and devolved the task to them. Her own comments that she thought it was a Ģ2.99 product if anything made her vulnerable. If she tried to place the blame on Tom he would have rightly set her right on whose fault those issues where. The fact that she changed her mind in two seconds with Tom made her even more vulnerable as it further reinforced the fairly easy to demonstrate view that she had no control over the task or the team. The main reason she did not get fired was that Azhar did not sell himself or discredit her. Tom did not need to as he knew he was safe due to her reaction and he knew she would go for Azhar. I think he read Ahzar as negative. Last year he read Tom throwing out similar comments, as ineffectively, in a positive way . The difference may be that Ahzar doesn't interest him? |
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She was very lucky to get away with it ... no way Tom was going to be fired and as Karren said, without Tom she`d have been in a right mess.
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Ive only ever been irritated this much before my the apprentice once (when Harry, Harry and Lizzie got fired, I almost cried with anger!)..
Azhar was annoying, he moaned a bit, but he also pointed out very clearly, multiple times that more stock should of been taken to the market. He also pointed out that they should be buying more of the products that they were actually selling, and all he wanted to know was the direction of the day so they had some sort of structure. Jade was a total bully in that boardroom "oh I wish could remember this" etc etc..she was so smug when she got through! Hope she goes asap. |
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Ridiculous decision. This is the kind of rubbish that is killing the show.
This show is on the ropes and will be cancelled within 2 years. |
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